I have now lost my respect for Whit Waide and Stricklin, let me tell you why

[joedawg]

<div>Before you read this understand that I am not a chapter president nor do I speak for the whole Greek system</div><div>
</div>At a recent IFC meeting (interfraternity council) it was relayed to the chapter presidents that Scott Stricklin wanted the fraternities and their pledges to stop wearing suits because when the suit wearers were shown on the tv or the jumbotron they did not "represent the People's University" . So wearng a suit or nice clothing is not welcome in the people's university. Does the nickname "the people's university" not indicate that it's for all people? To me this is micromanagement at its most extreme level. Pledges wearing suits is a tradition that has been practiced here and in the southeast for a very long time. Literally every school in the SEC, even LSU, has suit wearing pledges at the games. It's just part of southern tradition. Just because people wear suits does not make us Ole Miss. I think this is a biproduct of Whit Waide's constant rhetoric about how Ole Miss=frat boys and MSU=farm school/the people's university. I have zero problems with people that didn't join a greek organization, zero. Just like it's not my problem that people dress as giant cowbells for the games, or wear wigs or facepaint. They are just as much a part of the fanbase. It's just so disappointing to me that Stricklin is trying to do this especially since the Greek system gets very poor support from the university as it is compared to the rest of the SEC schools. I bet if you could see the statistics on money given to the university and the athletic department at least 50% of the donors are Greek, I know for a fact that Leo Seal was. And so this is how we are treated, while other SEC schools have designated Greek sections and plenty of people in suits our AD is telling us to stop wearing them. Because we don't represent "The People's University". Let me end this by saying that I have liked everything Stricklin has done up till now, which is why this is so confusing and disappointing.

 

[joedawg]

<div>Before you read this understand that I am not a chapter president nor do I speak for the whole Greek system</div><div>
</div>At a recent IFC meeting (interfraternity council) it was relayed to the chapter presidents that Scott Stricklin wanted the fraternities and their pledges to stop wearing suits because when the suit wearers were shown on the tv or the jumbotron they did not "represent the People's University" . So wearng a suit or nice clothing is not welcome in the people's university. Does the nickname "the people's university" not indicate that it's for all people? To me this is micromanagement at its most extreme level. Pledges wearing suits is a tradition that has been practiced here and in the southeast for a very long time. Literally every school in the SEC, even LSU, has suit wearing pledges at the games. It's just part of southern tradition. Just because people wear suits does not make us Ole Miss. I think this is a biproduct of Whit Waide's constant rhetoric about how Ole Miss=frat boys and MSU=farm school/the people's university. I have zero problems with people that didn't join a greek organization, zero. Just like it's not my problem that people dress as giant cowbells for the games, or wear wigs or facepaint. They are just as much a part of the fanbase. It's just so disappointing to me that Stricklin is trying to do this especially since the Greek system gets very poor support from the university as it is compared to the rest of the SEC schools. I bet if you could see the statistics on money given to the university and the athletic department at least 50% of the donors are Greek, I know for a fact that Leo Seal was. And so this is how we are treated, while other SEC schools have designated Greek sections and plenty of people in suits our AD is telling us to stop wearing them. Because we don't represent "The People's University". Let me end this by saying that I have liked everything Stricklin has done up till now, which is why this is so confusing and disappointing.

 

[joedawg]

<div>Before you read this understand that I am not a chapter president nor do I speak for the whole Greek system</div><div>
</div>At a recent IFC meeting (interfraternity council) it was relayed to the chapter presidents that Scott Stricklin wanted the fraternities and their pledges to stop wearing suits because when the suit wearers were shown on the tv or the jumbotron they did not "represent the People's University" . So wearng a suit or nice clothing is not welcome in the people's university. Does the nickname "the people's university" not indicate that it's for all people? To me this is micromanagement at its most extreme level. Pledges wearing suits is a tradition that has been practiced here and in the southeast for a very long time. Literally every school in the SEC, even LSU, has suit wearing pledges at the games. It's just part of southern tradition. Just because people wear suits does not make us Ole Miss. I think this is a biproduct of Whit Waide's constant rhetoric about how Ole Miss=frat boys and MSU=farm school/the people's university. I have zero problems with people that didn't join a greek organization, zero. Just like it's not my problem that people dress as giant cowbells for the games, or wear wigs or facepaint. They are just as much a part of the fanbase. It's just so disappointing to me that Stricklin is trying to do this especially since the Greek system gets very poor support from the university as it is compared to the rest of the SEC schools. I bet if you could see the statistics on money given to the university and the athletic department at least 50% of the donors are Greek, I know for a fact that Leo Seal was. And so this is how we are treated, while other SEC schools have designated Greek sections and plenty of people in suits our AD is telling us to stop wearing them. Because we don't represent "The People's University". Let me end this by saying that I have liked everything Stricklin has done up till now, which is why this is so confusing and disappointing.

 

[joedawg]

<div>Before you read this understand that I am not a chapter president nor do I speak for the whole Greek system</div><div>
</div>At a recent IFC meeting (interfraternity council) it was relayed to the chapter presidents that Scott Stricklin wanted the fraternities and their pledges to stop wearing suits because when the suit wearers were shown on the tv or the jumbotron they did not "represent the People's University" . So wearng a suit or nice clothing is not welcome in the people's university. Does the nickname "the people's university" not indicate that it's for all people? To me this is micromanagement at its most extreme level. Pledges wearing suits is a tradition that has been practiced here and in the southeast for a very long time. Literally every school in the SEC, even LSU, has suit wearing pledges at the games. It's just part of southern tradition. Just because people wear suits does not make us Ole Miss. I think this is a biproduct of Whit Waide's constant rhetoric about how Ole Miss=frat boys and MSU=farm school/the people's university. I have zero problems with people that didn't join a greek organization, zero. Just like it's not my problem that people dress as giant cowbells for the games, or wear wigs or facepaint. They are just as much a part of the fanbase. It's just so disappointing to me that Stricklin is trying to do this especially since the Greek system gets very poor support from the university as it is compared to the rest of the SEC schools. I bet if you could see the statistics on money given to the university and the athletic department at least 50% of the donors are Greek, I know for a fact that Leo Seal was. And so this is how we are treated, while other SEC schools have designated Greek sections and plenty of people in suits our AD is telling us to stop wearing them. Because we don't represent "The People's University". Let me end this by saying that I have liked everything Stricklin has done up till now, which is why this is so confusing and disappointing.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

and your suit.

This should get interesting.

Wear whatever you feel. But here we go.....

 

[lutedog]

Just because it is a "Southern Tradition" doesn't mean it isn't stupid.

 

[3000lbchicken]

Leo's son's were too. I don't remember them wearing suits ever.

Not to mention it's usually hot as hell. You can dress your pledges however you like though.

I prefer pledge tennis or space invaders, personally.

 

[Nugdawg]

I suggest there if you want to find sympathy. But far be it from me, if you want to look like a total prick, you should have that right to do so.

 

[weblow]

I personally think you are being a douche.

 

[Dawg4Life]

I've been out of school for 20 years.

I'm dressing up AND wearing a bow tie to every game just to piss these idiots off.

!#+% Whit Waide. He is not an alumnus of Mississippi State University. What gives him the right to tell us what we should and should not do?

What I wear has nothing to do with the school I attend nor does it suggest I'm trying to be like someone else.

 

[re1297id]

as to not have any real things to think about. The Kang had the same view of the suits weaters in 1991.

 

[Mullenation]

That is pretty petty indeed. I like our strong marketing campaign and the effort and resources we are putting into it, but it can be a little over the top. That Whit Waide video posted a while back from that speech he did made him sound like a douche, I unfollowed him on twitter and should have done it earlier.

I definitely agree about the poor support from the athletic department to fraternities and no where does that show more than the student section seating for football games.

 

[rem101]

It's not like they won't let them in. Make sure they are in 2 hours before also to save your seats. Continue to haze those goats brah.

 

[majors42]

he ought to be more concerned with fat cheerleaders and football players pissing in bushes. Leave the little ***** alone Scott, plus I like to berate them when they walk by me in the junction

 

[redbird4state]

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[jakldawg]

or just for things like this weekend when some sort of crowd color scheme is planned?<div>It seems like something really silly for the athletic department to actually care about.</div>

 

[msumhsfan]

Yes I am Greek, but I feel that what people wear should not matter. I dont want my university portrayed as camo wearing red-necks but if thats what they are comfortable with then so be it. I also hate "grinding for my state" and the word swagger, just wanted to throw that in there

 

[bluelightstar]

I think the problem with suits is that they're trying to get everyone to wear maroon. If you have a maroon suit, go for it.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

Only half kidding.

 

[Dawg4Life]

Yes I am Greek, but I feel that what people wear should not matter. I dont want my university portrayed as camo wearing red-necks but if thats what they are comfortable with then so be it. I also hate "grinding for my state" and the word swagger, just wanted to throw that in there

When they write a letter telling folks to stop wearing camo to the games, then I might THINK about not dressing for the game. Might.

Write a letter telling Whit Waide to cut that hippie hair and stop acting like a 13 year old who refuses to grow up. Write that letter.

 

[redbird4state]

Whit Waide is a pretty big douche

 

[3000lbchicken]

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[00Dawg]

there was a movement around the turn of the century to ban the saving of seats altogether. I believe it originated with the president's office. The reasoning was to stop what pledges have always done.
As you can see, it failed.
Short answer: don't sweat it.

 

[FlabLoser]

...in a more tactful way, perhaps. He encouraged people to wear maroon & white and to look more school spirited than decked to the 9s. It worked to some degree. There were a lot less suits in Sherrill's era.<div>
</div><div>That said...I support suits. They look good next to skirts.</div><div>
</div>

 

[Johnson85]

I definitely agree about the poor support from the athletic department to fraternities and no where does that show more than the student section seating for football games.

When fraternity members ask for **** like this, it makes them look like the douche bags they're portrayed as. If you want a good seat, show up and get it. If you want to have somebody save you a seat, have them save you a seat, as long as one person isn't trying to save seats for more than one or at most two other people. A good greek system is good for the university, but that doesn't justify the university granting them preferential treatment for seating.

 

[Hector.sixpack]

Not saying it didnt happen...but i just dont see the AD worrying about what frat boys wear.

 

[PONYfun]

I think telling people what they can and can not wear is dumb.<div>
</div><div>I also think making pledges wear suits to games is dumb. This is something my fraternity never did, thank God.</div><div>
</div><div>Wear what you want.</div>

 

[AssEndDawg]

At a recent IFC meeting (interfraternity council) <span style="font-weight: bold;">it was relayed</span> to the chapter presidents that Scott Stricklin wanted the fraternities and their pledges to stop wearing suits because when the suit wearers were shown on the tv or the jumbotron they did not "represent the People's University" .

So you are getting information from your Chapter President who was relayed information from someone who maybe heard it from Scott? Are you a %!%#$++ 3rd grader? It's stupid *** **** like that that gets people all wound up about nothing. Sit in your faggoty suit at the game if you want to, who gives a ****. If he said it, and I seriously doubt he said it like you presented it, then it's still right. It's a football game!

Anyone, and I mean anyone, who goes off on representatives of MSU because they take offense at the tone of something they are hearing third hand it a prick in my book.

 

[Hanmudog]

When did not wearing a suit become synonymous with being a camo wearing redneck?

Also where does the original poster get that half the donations at MSU come from Greeks? Somehow I doubt that.

 

[msumhsfan]

We are looked at as Moo U and such so I was using the camo thing as the other end of the spectrum. I dont know about half, but I bet the Greek donationsare up there. </p>

 

[Resolved]

hot as HELL. I didn't complain cause everyone else I was with had one on too. Wore them at home a couple games too. Nothing wrong with that tradition...let the frats do what they want. Youwant to wear a flaming jock strap, wear it! You want towear a suit, wear it.

 

[Coach34]

it's 2011, Mississippi, and global warming is taking place. Anybody wearing a coat and tie to a game in this day and age should be punched in the forehead. Are you mad that tophats and dancing "the Charleston" are no longer there for modern society also? Wear khakis, a maroon shirt, and enjoy the 17'ing game.<div>
</div><div>And yes- I was the guy that would just sit where I wanted in the student section, and told the frats to go 17 themselves. One guy can save a couple of seats, but sending one douche to save 2-3 rows was stupid.</div>

 

[tenureplan]

Almost got in a few fights over it as well...

 

[redbird4state]

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[studentdawg87]

Waide was a KA at Milsaps and constantly tweets about whiskey and bands the average person has never heard of. He also dresses nicer than the majority of professors on campus. Hell, he is the KA's chapter adviser at State.

He would never admit it, but he has more in common with frat guys than he does with any other segment of the student body.

Stricklin went to Prep. I would be willing to bet that he dressed decent when he was in school.

State is known for being a "cow college" that is home to camo-clad rednecks and obese bitches. If anything, it wouldn't hurt if more people dressed up for games. Although from what I can tell, State fans dress as nice as fans from any SEC school not named Ole Miss.

 

[Guy From Gulfport]

"If you want to impress your date, do it after the game." All the Coat & Tie crowd were leaving the games early, because they were not comfortable.

If you want to wear your suit in the 95 degree early September heat, Go right ahead. Just because it is a "Southern Tradition"™? Good greif... I might as well get into the water fountain business, for the need may again double...

Nothing unifies a student body, like an entitled Greek system.**

 

[thatlonghairedguy]

can someone lock this down?

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

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[kimmer]

You lost respect for somebody because he dared to suggest that frat boys not wear a coat and tie to a freaking football game? And to top it off he refuses to give you preferential seating?

OMG! When is the persecution of fraternities going to end!!!

 

[bulldogbaja]

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