I heard Fox News is having a little turmoil

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Prove me wrong. Shep Smith is a liberal. Wallace a registered Dem. All true. Only Brett Baier is not ideological compared to these two, although Wallace does a good job of being fair just as Tim Russert did.

I don't need to prove you wrong. Anyone with a little bit of common sense knows you are wrong.
 

WVUCOOPER

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Yes...and it took him all night to conjure that one up Coop...man is he an exhausting one to attempt a debate with. He can tariff us 30,40, 100%...he wins...congratulations!
He (Trump and PATX) will claim victory over trade, regardless the outcome. Hooray tariffs!!
 

WVPATX

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He (Trump and PATX) will claim victory over trade, regardless the outcome. Hooray tariffs!!

We will get victory on NAFTA and tariffs are necessary when trade is not fair and subsidies distort true competition. All countries do this to protect their interests. But this puts Americans out of work, but that apparently doesn't matter to you.
 

WVPATX

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Keyser76

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Prove me wrong. Shep Smith is a liberal. Wallace a registered Dem. All true. Only Brett Baier is not ideological compared to these two, although Wallace does a good job of being fair just as Tim Russert did.
Shep became a liberal by questioning Trump? Who cares if a liberal or a conservative yells, "Get out, the house is on fire." It either is or it isn't, Trump makes his own problems on a daily basis, he says he had the biggest inaugural crowds, he accomplished more in 100 days than any other president, Obama ordered his phone tapped, health care will be repealed this week than next week, I'm canceling NAFTA now I'm not. Nothing bad is ever his fault and everything good is because of him. He is a spoiled baby playing President and not having any fun because he doesn't know what he is doing and is incapable of delegating anything more difficult than retrieving him another diet coke.
 

Keyser76

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We will get victory on NAFTA and tariffs are necessary when trade is not fair and subsidies distort true competition. All countries do this to protect their interests. But this puts Americans out of work, but that apparently doesn't matter to you.
And that's why he caved, they showed him a map that it would hurt his supporters where they lived, He didn't know what he was talking about when he said he would pull out and his supporters were too stupid to question whether it mattered to them, it was all caught up in the Mexico, wall, immigrant fear tactics that he used to scare numbnuts who have never been to new York City where he is from.
 

WVPATX

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Shep became a liberal by questioning Trump? Who cares if a liberal or a conservative yells, "Get out, the house is on fire." It either is or it isn't, Trump makes his own problems on a daily basis, he says he had the biggest inaugural crowds, he accomplished more in 100 days than any other president, Obama ordered his phone tapped, health care will be repealed this week than next week, I'm canceling NAFTA now I'm not. Nothing bad is ever his fault and everything good is because of him. He is a spoiled baby playing President and not having any fun because he doesn't know what he is doing and is incapable of delegating anything more difficult than retrieving him another diet coke.

Shep was a lib far earlier than Trump.

Obama did order taps before. James Rosen, anyone? Sharyl Attkisson, anyone? He put journalists in jail, James Risen anyone?
 

WVPATX

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And that's why he caved, they showed him a map that it would hurt his supporters where they lived, He didn't know what he was talking about when he said he would pull out and his supporters were too stupid to question whether it mattered to them, it was all caught up in the Mexico, wall, immigrant fear tactics that he used to scare numbnuts who have never been to new York City where he is from.

No, it is called negotiating tactics. Too far over your head for you to grasp. You so used to Obama telling the opponent exactly what and when he was going to do something.
 

torontoeers

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Must be difficult for you to always be on the losing team. Tariffs will happen.. NAFTA renegotiation will happen. And I'll take Trump to win vs. your man/girl.
We have around an $11B trade deficit with Canada. Trump wanted NAFTA renegotiated and your Prime Minister bended to his will. Like it or not, we are the big dog and Canada is the tail. BTW, your savior Obama stopped Keystone. Trump got it done. I think Canada will get far more benefit from Keystone and other potential pipelines than these two trade squabbles. You should thank Trump.
Um....less than 24 hours ago I was on the winning team according to your words above re trade deficit, now I am always on the losing team? What's it gonna be, which one...or is this another example of your circle of thought? As i said...exhausting!
 

WVPATX

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Um....less than 24 hours ago I was on the winning team according to your words above re trade deficit, now I am always on the losing team? What's it gonna be, which one...or is this another example of your circle of thought? As i said...exhausting!

New sheriff in town. $11B trade deficit was winning for Canada, that will end. New leadership wants fair, equal trade. Not hard to understand.
 

torontoeers

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New sheriff in town. $11B trade deficit was winning for Canada, that will end. New leadership wants fair, equal trade. Not hard to understand.
Must be difficult for you to always be on the losing team. Tariffs will happen.. NAFTA renegotiation will happen. And I'll take Trump to win vs. your man/girl.
I bolded it for you...make your words easier to for you to understand PAX...
 

WVPATX

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I bolded it for you...make your words easier to for you to understand PAX...

That statement was made in light of the new sheriff being in town. The 11 billion Dollar trade surplus will disappear. Be happy with Keystone and the other pipe lines, Trump is actually helping Canada along.

But as I also said, the $11B dollar deficit with Canada pales in comparison to our deficit with Mexico. NAFTA will be renegotiated. Wilbur Ross is a genius. I suspect we will get to much fairer trade.
 

torontoeers

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That statement was made in light of the new sheriff being in town. The 11 billion Dollar trade surplus will disappear. Be happy with Keystone and the other pipe lines, Trump is actually helping Canada along.

But as I also said, the $11B dollar deficit with Canada pales in comparison to our deficit with Mexico. NAFTA will be renegotiated. Wilbur Ross is a genius. I suspect we will get to much fairer trade.
Not sure I agree it will automatically disappear. So far as I remember the year before you actually had the surplus of a similar amount. You would agree I assume that this seesaw is tied largely to oil? Yes...Keystone works for me just fine thanks, and if you ask me the previous FT agreement before NAFTA worked out better for both Canada and US...
 

WVPATX

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Not sure I agree it will automatically disappear. So far as I remember the year before you actually had the surplus of a similar amount. You would agree I assume that this seesaw is tied largely to oil? Yes...Keystone works for me just fine thanks, and if you ask me the previous FT agreement before NAFTA worked out better for both Canada and US...

I am all for free trade, but must be fair. I don't like subsidies of any kind. Trump will continue to approve pipelines, but oil and gas can flow both ways. I don't care what the trade imbalance is as long as the trade is fair.