that someone just joined the bulldog club. If you can pay for a premium board, shouldn't you be a member of the Bulldog Club at least?
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I just read on a premium MSU board...
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that someone just joined the bulldog club. If you can pay for a premium board, shouldn't you be a member of the Bulldog Club at least?
Discuss.
Discuss.
that someone just joined the bulldog club. If you can pay for a premium board, shouldn't you be a member of the Bulldog Club at least?
Discuss.
Discuss.
So they could be re-joining. I'm being the rare optimist here.
Even if you live in Asia, can't make any games and you're probably a member of a premium board, then you should still be required to join the BDC.
Even if you live in Asia, can't make any games and you're probably a member of a premium board, then you should still be required to join the BDC.
I really don't understand paying for a premium board without being a Bulldog Club member. Premium info shouldn't really matter to someone who hasn't directly invested into the athletic program through the Bulldog Club.
That pay site money isn't helping with MSU athletics, which if you're willing to pay for you obviously care about. It just makes way more sense for you to give to the BC.
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</div><div>1. For personal gain (better season tickets).</div><div>2. For philanthropy (to make MSU sports better)</div><div>
</div><div>I would be willing to bet that 90% of the people who donate to the BDC do so for reason #1. So, if you have no intention or no ability to get/use season tickets then why donate? Only for reason #2. Then you get to the question of isdonatingto MSU "athletics" really the best philanthropic use of your money? Would donating your money to cancer research or even to the academic side be the best option?</div><div>
</div><div>They've never really made a push to bring in the people who would donate small amounts for reason #2 or given people who don't go to games any tangible benefit. If MSU offered me premium Internet access for being a member then I'd be a member. Unfortunately, they can't offer any recruiting services because of NCAA rules so they'll have to find some other benefit to being a member or I'll continue to use my money for other things. If MSU offered hailstate.tv to anyone donating 10 a month I'd strongly consider signing up.</div><div>
</div><div>Bring on the "you don't love MSU if you don't donate" crowd. Let me be clear on one thing. I was a BDC member back when I had a lot of money. Now, I am providing for a family on 5 on less money and I don't feel like donating to the BDC is important for me or a wise use of my money. I'm a member of BDJ only because the 100 lifetime membership seemed like a really good value. As it is, donating to the BDC for me would be a 100% philantropic thing because I'd get absolutely no benefit out of it. In that light, there are other organizations that I feel are more worthy than one that provides entertainment.</div><div>
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</div><div>There are two reasons to donate to the BDC.</div><div>
</div><div>1. For personal gain (better season tickets).</div><div>2. For philanthropy (to make MSU sports better)</div><div>
</div><div>I would be willing to bet that 90% of the people who donate to the BDC do so for reason #1. So, if you have no intention or no ability to get/use season tickets then why donate? Only for reason #2. Then you get to the question of isdonatingto MSU "athletics" really the best philanthropic use of your money? Would donating your money to cancer research or even to the academic side be the best option?</div><div>
</div><div>They've never really made a push to bring in the people who would donate small amounts for reason #2 or given people who don't go to games any tangible benefit. If MSU offered me premium Internet access for being a member then I'd be a member. Unfortunately, they can't offer any recruiting services because of NCAA rules so they'll have to find some other benefit to being a member or I'll continue to use my money for other things. If MSU offered hailstate.tv to anyone donating 10 a month I'd strongly consider signing up.</div><div>
</div><div>Bring on the "you don't love MSU if you don't donate" crowd. Let me be clear on one thing. I was a BDC member back when I had a lot of money. Now, I am providing for a family on 5 on less money and I don't feel like donating to the BDC is important for me or a wise use of my money. I'm a member of BDJ only because the 100 lifetime membership seemed like a really good value. As it is, donating to the BDC for me would be a 100% philantropic thing because I'd get absolutely no benefit out of it. In that light, there are other organizations that I feel are more worthy than one that provides entertainment.</div><div>
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<div>In that sense, I think paying 120 a year to a "premium" site makes no sense at all. 95% of the premium information lands here or on twitter within hours. The only thing you are really paying for is theabilityto be on an MSU board without Coach34 (and that might be worth 120 to some).</div><div>
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But spare me the ******** about not having money, providing for a family, etc.being the reason. Because it's not. Just be honest and say you don't give because you don't want to. I can't understand why you wouldn't want to, but it's really none of my business.
And based on my income, if I had 4 kids..or even 1 kid right now, I probably wouldn't donate bc my budget would be very tight. I just don't see why you would call his reasoning ********. There are MSU fans out there that live paycheck to paycheck
Especially if they can afford to pay for premium membership Internet sites. I'm not saying he has any obligation to give. It's his money. But he's just trying to find an excuse not to give. All I'm saying is if you're not going to give just be honest about why you're not giving.</p>
I filed bankruptcy last year to keep from losing my house. Can I afford 8.33 to give to MSU? Sure, but I'm also trying to figure out where I'm going to come up with the 400 for new tires on my truck and the 150 a month for my kid to get allergy shots. So you tell me if I can really afford to give 8.33 to MSU for something that provides entertainment?<div>
</div><div>You know the lady at the counter buying lobster with her food stamps that you make fun of? Well that's the same way I feel about people who are struggling to make ends meet and still cutting a check to a school to support sports. It's stupid.</div><div>
</div><div>Athletic departments are a luxury item that some people cannot afford to partake of. Doesn't mean I don't like it. Hell I love lobster but I can't afford it so I don't buy it. Doesn't mean I don't want it.
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</div><div>You know the lady at the counter buying lobster with her food stamps that you make fun of? Well that's the same way I feel about people who are struggling to make ends meet and still cutting a check to a school to support sports. It's stupid.</div><div>
</div><div>Athletic departments are a luxury item that some people cannot afford to partake of. Doesn't mean I don't like it. Hell I love lobster but I can't afford it so I don't buy it. Doesn't mean I don't want it.
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But he is not doing that. You obviously haven't ever been on the ramen noodle budget before. I'm just saying, I have been in situations before where $8.33 was definitely doable, but I had higher things on the priority list than donating that to MSU. It doesn't mean the dude is lying about it is all I'm saying.
Hell, to be honest with you, I would rather this cat stick $8.33 per month into a Savings Account if he is that strapped, then to give it to MSU.
Hell, to be honest with you, I would rather this cat stick $8.33 per month into a Savings Account if he is that strapped, then to give it to MSU.
I cant possibly say who should or shouldn't be in the bulldog club, but I will say that it says a lot about our fan base that we only have 8200 members.
My next statement is how in the holy hell is 8200 people accounting for all the seats in Davis Wade stadium???
My next statement is how in the holy hell is 8200 people accounting for all the seats in Davis Wade stadium???
I'm not a premium member of any site, even porn, but i would be before joining the Bulldog club.
Why? Because i don't see any benefits from joining, and i gave enough money to MSU already (2 degrees)to feel i don't owe a donation, especially since they screwed me over enough times already while i was there.
The ONE thing i would join for, would be to get tickets in the lower level. I HATE the upper level. But with the increased enthusiasm, and their incomprehensible system (that could very likely be rigged), it's not worth it to me. If i can't get tickets from a friend or a scalper, which i almost always can, then i have no problem watching the game on TV.
If they take even the slightest effort to fix the stubhub problem, then i'd probably reconsider. But they don't seem to care to either collect that revenue, nor to enforce their own selection system, so they must not need my money that badly. it feels like giving charity to someone who can't be bothered to work.
I don't blame anyone else for feeling differently, there are certainly things i splurge on. this just isn't one of them.
Why? Because i don't see any benefits from joining, and i gave enough money to MSU already (2 degrees)to feel i don't owe a donation, especially since they screwed me over enough times already while i was there.
The ONE thing i would join for, would be to get tickets in the lower level. I HATE the upper level. But with the increased enthusiasm, and their incomprehensible system (that could very likely be rigged), it's not worth it to me. If i can't get tickets from a friend or a scalper, which i almost always can, then i have no problem watching the game on TV.
If they take even the slightest effort to fix the stubhub problem, then i'd probably reconsider. But they don't seem to care to either collect that revenue, nor to enforce their own selection system, so they must not need my money that badly. it feels like giving charity to someone who can't be bothered to work.
I don't blame anyone else for feeling differently, there are certainly things i splurge on. this just isn't one of them.
is under my own account. The rest of it is piggy backed on someone else who gives a lot more than I could but we fill in the rest so we can get better seats.
Which could be a problem for you since he gets all the points for your donations. If something happens to him down the road, you'd lose the benefit of your donations. They should just base everyone's priority on points per seat requested and let people combine points to get seats together if they want to. </p>
I didn't like that I was helping build my buddy's points but not my own. It was worth it to me at the time to get my own seats (in section B) and dump as much as I could into the BDC under my dog tag. I figure it'll pay off sooner or later.</p>
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MSU said i wasn't worth anything when I applied for scholarships, so I don't feel I owe them anything now
I had a great scholarship. it's how they nickel and dimed me for years, refusing to pay off-campus housing like other schools do, tickets, charging to park on frat row that's not even on campus, how Portera forced out all my favorite proffs to save a buck, etc etc.
like i said, they don't seem to care about revenue in other areas where it would be hard, they just want my money cause that's easy on their end. they didn't care about money when they made those idiotic extensions for Crooms and Stans. no thanks, they obviously don't need my money.
like i said, they don't seem to care about revenue in other areas where it would be hard, they just want my money cause that's easy on their end. they didn't care about money when they made those idiotic extensions for Crooms and Stans. no thanks, they obviously don't need my money.
And I mean this in the nicest way possible. If you are so bitter about all the million ways State has "wronged" you, why the hell are you here, posting on a message board full of fans, with a screenname with the school in it, apparently still attending games when you can either mooch a ticket from a paying friend or sometimes paying a scalper? Again, I just am asking a legitimate question...if you seem to dislike, maybe even hate, the school so much, why are you still a fan...and I may be using the word fan a bit loosely.
On a different note, if people can't see how donating to the BC helps them in more ways than in tickets and philantropy or what have you, then I can't help them. By giving to the BC you are increasing our revenue. By increasing our revenue, you increase the likelihood of providing a better product on and off the field. Thus, as a fan that sits at home, never attending a game, it would seem that you would have a better chance of enjoying the game on Saturday on TV if weare more competitive on the field. Resources lead to better results in most all cases.
We need a larger part of our "fanbase" at least giving something...anything...to the BC. It is embarrassing to me that 8200 people are basically footing the bill for everyone else to sit around and ***** about.
On a different note, if people can't see how donating to the BC helps them in more ways than in tickets and philantropy or what have you, then I can't help them. By giving to the BC you are increasing our revenue. By increasing our revenue, you increase the likelihood of providing a better product on and off the field. Thus, as a fan that sits at home, never attending a game, it would seem that you would have a better chance of enjoying the game on Saturday on TV if weare more competitive on the field. Resources lead to better results in most all cases.
We need a larger part of our "fanbase" at least giving something...anything...to the BC. It is embarrassing to me that 8200 people are basically footing the bill for everyone else to sit around and ***** about.
The info is available on several venues on the interweb. Including my fave, this one.
And my current level of BD Club requirement is equivalent to 3 premium board prices.
I'd rather they get the money, that's how I roll, since I'm not rolling in dough.
And my current level of BD Club requirement is equivalent to 3 premium board prices.
I'd rather they get the money, that's how I roll, since I'm not rolling in dough.
Like mine for example. I have been a member of a pay site since my senior year in high school. I got a GP subscription for Christmas one year, and have continued it since (Well, I have actually switched to 247 now). I had no need to join the bulldog club as a student at State. I always kept a job, so I probably could have afforded to give $100/year, but it never even crossed my mind. That money went to booze for the tailgate. I graduated last May and have already joined the BC, but I had a pay site subscription long before. I could see peopel in similar situations.
My times at MSU were the best of my life. I love everything about the university......except how they were about money. I don't know when you attended, but i was there when Portera took over from Zacharias, and it was a profound shift. LT's "all about being in the black" philosophy applied as guiding principle. Forcing out the best professors on campus so they could replace them with cheap Indian grad students who couldn't speak English. Where the 17 did you get 'bitter' from that? Presume much? Anyone who opposes an MSU policy is bitter?
My only point in that was that i don't feel i owe a charitable donation, because they already got several from me.
And you seemed to have missed where my main gripe was that the AD is passing on a large source of revenue, that also conflicts with its chosen seat selection mechanism, and then asking for my money instead. Like i said, it's like giving charity to someone who refuses to work.
Since you are so concerned with AD revenue, maybe you should be concerned that they are passing on so much revenue? Or are you the type of fan that would rather ***** at rational fans than irrational administrators?
My only point in that was that i don't feel i owe a charitable donation, because they already got several from me.
And you seemed to have missed where my main gripe was that the AD is passing on a large source of revenue, that also conflicts with its chosen seat selection mechanism, and then asking for my money instead. Like i said, it's like giving charity to someone who refuses to work.
Since you are so concerned with AD revenue, maybe you should be concerned that they are passing on so much revenue? Or are you the type of fan that would rather ***** at rational fans than irrational administrators?
I tried to remain at least somewhat civil in my genuine curiosty in asking the question. I see that wasn't possible with you as you had to pull out the "17" references in your reply ect. To turn the tables, get defensive much? You can't possibly deny that your previouscould be read tohave an overall tone of bitterness and dislike for many things MSU/MSU Athletics related. So much so, that 10-15 years after your time at State is up, you are still harboring ill will over things such as professors or paying anadditional parking fee or some other cheapskate crap that has absolutely not one thing to do with the given topic of MSU Athletics and the Bulldog Club. Regardless, let's move past this point as maybe we can chalk this up to my interpretation of your written words vs how you really intended them. It happens and therefore I apologize if true.
Let's hear more about your plan to generate all this revenue you mention by elminating a private enterprise such as Stubhub. I am truly not trying to be an *** here, I am simply trying to understand what your gripe is with the ticket system that in your eyes needs to be repaired as we are losing such huge revenue streams according to you.
For the record, I attended toward the end of the Zacharias era and while I was no Portera fan, and was a fan of Zach, I can say I remember at least a handful of classes during that tenure where I couldn't understand a word my teacher said. That may have changed even more after I left. I will take your word for it.
Lastly, if you knew me at all, you would know I am the type of fan that bitches at whoever needs bitching at...fan or administrator. If you had only known me during the LT years. That said, and call this bitching or whatever, but I still feel that the more people we have contributing to the Ath Dept, and thus the more money and resources we have, the more successful we will be. Surely you can't argue with that. All I'm asking of you, or anyone else for that matter, is if you want success for State and have a love for the school as we both apparently do, ask yourself if you are doing anything to help ensure success whether it be buying season tickets, joining the BC, giving to the academic side, buying MSU gear, helping recruit new students, heck...anything at all. If that answer is yes, then that's great.We can either try and make it better or stand pat on bitching about things that happened under different adminstrators over 10 years ago.
Let's hear more about your plan to generate all this revenue you mention by elminating a private enterprise such as Stubhub. I am truly not trying to be an *** here, I am simply trying to understand what your gripe is with the ticket system that in your eyes needs to be repaired as we are losing such huge revenue streams according to you.
For the record, I attended toward the end of the Zacharias era and while I was no Portera fan, and was a fan of Zach, I can say I remember at least a handful of classes during that tenure where I couldn't understand a word my teacher said. That may have changed even more after I left. I will take your word for it.
Lastly, if you knew me at all, you would know I am the type of fan that bitches at whoever needs bitching at...fan or administrator. If you had only known me during the LT years. That said, and call this bitching or whatever, but I still feel that the more people we have contributing to the Ath Dept, and thus the more money and resources we have, the more successful we will be. Surely you can't argue with that. All I'm asking of you, or anyone else for that matter, is if you want success for State and have a love for the school as we both apparently do, ask yourself if you are doing anything to help ensure success whether it be buying season tickets, joining the BC, giving to the academic side, buying MSU gear, helping recruit new students, heck...anything at all. If that answer is yes, then that's great.We can either try and make it better or stand pat on bitching about things that happened under different adminstrators over 10 years ago.
Shaming, criticizing, or teling someone to join the BC isn't the way to do it. No one should be telling another what to do with thier finances. Everyone has a story, priorities and issues.
The BC is rolling out a new way to be a part of something and are doing a better job of explaining the what, why and how's of the club. It's all personal choice. I've been a member since the early 80's and outside of getting first crack at whatever premium seating that came up, nothing else really comes about. Now, the premium seating (for football) is just about out of my league and and others can just walk up, plunk down a check and get just about what they want. I fully understand it's all about $$$, but those of us who have endured all these decades of, well, you know, are passed over for the newer, bigger dollar folks. That's life, I guess.
The BC is rolling out a new way to be a part of something and are doing a better job of explaining the what, why and how's of the club. It's all personal choice. I've been a member since the early 80's and outside of getting first crack at whatever premium seating that came up, nothing else really comes about. Now, the premium seating (for football) is just about out of my league and and others can just walk up, plunk down a check and get just about what they want. I fully understand it's all about $$$, but those of us who have endured all these decades of, well, you know, are passed over for the newer, bigger dollar folks. That's life, I guess.
but if you are paying for a premium MSU site before giving to the Bulldog Club - I just find that kind of ironic.
at some point. Yeah, you may get a personalized postcard or season guide thrown your way at some point but as far as ranking goes, I think you'll honestly be lucky to even maintain it without jacking up your contribution. Especially with the way that membership has skyrocketed over the last few years. I obviously don't know your history but I can tell you mine...
I gave about $300 per year for 5 years and even after the multiple years of giving and buying tickets, I dropped in BC ranking every year. Not by much, but I was constantly losing spots. Well, around 2007, I finally moved back to the area and and my family decided to pool resources. We did it my name because I also had the advantage of working for a company with a matching program. Long story short, we buy 12 tickets every year and after putting all of our money into one pot, I think I went from #6000 or so to #1500 in one year. As far as seats go, that was the difference in corner end zone seats and 25-yard line seats in section E. If we didn't need 12 tickets somewhat together, I'm sure I could have gotten better ones but we wanted to be close. A couple years later, my grandmother was having trouble managing her account so we transferred it to my name and I buy her tickets. After that, I shot up to around #500 and we moved over to section F.
I know it's hard for people to give money for someone else to get credit for, but my main point is not to kid yourself into thinking that you'll get anywhere just by continued years of giving. Especially, if you're not increasing it substantially every year. Sure, you get a bonus point for each of the continued years, but that doesn't really mean squat in the grand scheme of the priority points. It's all about the cash and more importantly, how much you gave this year. Also, if you have an elderly MSU relative, it may be worth your while to make a deal with them to manage their tickets if they'll transfer their account to yours.
I gave about $300 per year for 5 years and even after the multiple years of giving and buying tickets, I dropped in BC ranking every year. Not by much, but I was constantly losing spots. Well, around 2007, I finally moved back to the area and and my family decided to pool resources. We did it my name because I also had the advantage of working for a company with a matching program. Long story short, we buy 12 tickets every year and after putting all of our money into one pot, I think I went from #6000 or so to #1500 in one year. As far as seats go, that was the difference in corner end zone seats and 25-yard line seats in section E. If we didn't need 12 tickets somewhat together, I'm sure I could have gotten better ones but we wanted to be close. A couple years later, my grandmother was having trouble managing her account so we transferred it to my name and I buy her tickets. After that, I shot up to around #500 and we moved over to section F.
I know it's hard for people to give money for someone else to get credit for, but my main point is not to kid yourself into thinking that you'll get anywhere just by continued years of giving. Especially, if you're not increasing it substantially every year. Sure, you get a bonus point for each of the continued years, but that doesn't really mean squat in the grand scheme of the priority points. It's all about the cash and more importantly, how much you gave this year. Also, if you have an elderly MSU relative, it may be worth your while to make a deal with them to manage their tickets if they'll transfer their account to yours.
But I will accept your apology and move on.
I do agree that more contributions can help with success. I only said that stuff to counter the belief of many that we 'owe' it to the university to contribute. I loved my time there, but they viewed me as an asset to be milked, as purely business, and i apply that view back to MSU now whenever money comes up. You reap what you sow.
Let me try to explain the StubHub thing by trying a different analogy. Think of a BBQ or cook off or whatever, where it's understood that the costs will be shared by all involved. But at the event, the host asks you for money, while many more 'connected' peeps are eating for free.
I don't think StubHub should be shut down. But it would not bethat hardfor the university to take up that action. They just choose not to. They could print 'owners' names on the tickets. If the owner can't attend and would like to gift their tix to a friend, then the university can process the request and print some sort of pass for that for a small fee. I'm sure there are other ways to accomplish the same thing. They could crack down on scalping/StubHub, and offer to exchange individual season tix back from owners for the face price, then auction them off much like StubHub. They could make clear that tix are the property of the university, for the exclusive use of the season ticket holder, are not to be resold or gifted, and issue cease-and-desist letters to StubHub. Let me reiterate that i undestand there are reasons not to do this, that it would cause some inconvienience for fans, and some effort by the AD. And i have no problem with them not doing it. BUT, for one thing, when they pass on that revenue, and then ask me for money, or even worse those like you suggest i'm obligated to help cover that revenue, that i have a problem with. Like i said, if they choose to pass on other sources of revenue, then they must not need mine that badly. And maybe it's not even that much revunue, but it's sure more than i can provide.
Second, the system as it stands incentivizes me not to join! I live far away, and cannot attend every game, especially if it's a Thursday game. The seats I can get in my name suck, and i am given no indication of how long it would take to move to the lower level, nor would i be given an indication of how much closer i would be to that goal each year. my understanding is you may get a phone call, like winning the lottery, if you get lucky enough. But with the current system, i can pass on games that are hard to attend, get tix from friends or cheap from scalpers for lower attended games, and put the money saved towards good seat tix off StubHub for the marque games, and if none of the above happen then watch on TV. That process just works better for my needs than what the university is offering. But nothing is stopping the university from offering something closer to my needs. They just choose not to.
You yourself are lamenting that there are only 8200 Bulldog club members. Are you going to attack all the rest as not being 'true' fans, or maybe consider that the system itself is why so few are members? Maybe the priorty system can be more clear?
Or think of it this way. What they are offering is to sell me something i don't want (upper level tix) for years, on the possibility thatin the futurethey will offer to sell me something i want (lower level tix), that i can get now and probably later without the AD (StubHub). See now why many don't join?</p>
I do agree that more contributions can help with success. I only said that stuff to counter the belief of many that we 'owe' it to the university to contribute. I loved my time there, but they viewed me as an asset to be milked, as purely business, and i apply that view back to MSU now whenever money comes up. You reap what you sow.
Let me try to explain the StubHub thing by trying a different analogy. Think of a BBQ or cook off or whatever, where it's understood that the costs will be shared by all involved. But at the event, the host asks you for money, while many more 'connected' peeps are eating for free.
I don't think StubHub should be shut down. But it would not bethat hardfor the university to take up that action. They just choose not to. They could print 'owners' names on the tickets. If the owner can't attend and would like to gift their tix to a friend, then the university can process the request and print some sort of pass for that for a small fee. I'm sure there are other ways to accomplish the same thing. They could crack down on scalping/StubHub, and offer to exchange individual season tix back from owners for the face price, then auction them off much like StubHub. They could make clear that tix are the property of the university, for the exclusive use of the season ticket holder, are not to be resold or gifted, and issue cease-and-desist letters to StubHub. Let me reiterate that i undestand there are reasons not to do this, that it would cause some inconvienience for fans, and some effort by the AD. And i have no problem with them not doing it. BUT, for one thing, when they pass on that revenue, and then ask me for money, or even worse those like you suggest i'm obligated to help cover that revenue, that i have a problem with. Like i said, if they choose to pass on other sources of revenue, then they must not need mine that badly. And maybe it's not even that much revunue, but it's sure more than i can provide.
Second, the system as it stands incentivizes me not to join! I live far away, and cannot attend every game, especially if it's a Thursday game. The seats I can get in my name suck, and i am given no indication of how long it would take to move to the lower level, nor would i be given an indication of how much closer i would be to that goal each year. my understanding is you may get a phone call, like winning the lottery, if you get lucky enough. But with the current system, i can pass on games that are hard to attend, get tix from friends or cheap from scalpers for lower attended games, and put the money saved towards good seat tix off StubHub for the marque games, and if none of the above happen then watch on TV. That process just works better for my needs than what the university is offering. But nothing is stopping the university from offering something closer to my needs. They just choose not to.
You yourself are lamenting that there are only 8200 Bulldog club members. Are you going to attack all the rest as not being 'true' fans, or maybe consider that the system itself is why so few are members? Maybe the priorty system can be more clear?
Or think of it this way. What they are offering is to sell me something i don't want (upper level tix) for years, on the possibility thatin the futurethey will offer to sell me something i want (lower level tix), that i can get now and probably later without the AD (StubHub). See now why many don't join?</p>
Ihave given2k+ a year for 3 years for my 3 seats. The minimum until last year was $50 per seat. I currently rank right around 3000ish. Like you said, I found out quickly that I need to increase my donation every year to keep moving up on the list.
The sad thing is, from what i understand, you and your group are giving the same amount you would be separately, so the AD is losing money doing it this way.
Why plop down thousands a year to get tix i can get on StubHub for a few hundred?
Why plop down thousands a year to get tix i can get on StubHub for a few hundred?
I totally agree there are much more worthy causes than Mississippi State athletics but my original point of the post is - if you have the money to pay $120/year or $100/year for a premium site but are not a member of the Bulldog Club - that makes zero sense to me.
I know you can say you are getting something when you subscribe to a premium site but if you are subscribing - that means you care a lot about MSU athletics. You just aren't some ordinary fan. So why not - first - donate to the athletic arm of the university over subscribing to a site?
I know you can say you are getting something when you subscribe to a premium site but if you are subscribing - that means you care a lot about MSU athletics. You just aren't some ordinary fan. So why not - first - donate to the athletic arm of the university over subscribing to a site?