I know Hudspeth is priority 1 BUT
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Put the crack pipe down and take the gun out of your mouth.
If O was able to somehow take the entire Chiefs roster and get them to play for MSU tomorrow I still wouldn't want him. Come back down to earth. Freeze isn't going to get a #5 class every year, and he's not handpicking players in Mississippi either.
If O was able to somehow take the entire Chiefs roster and get them to play for MSU tomorrow I still wouldn't want him. Come back down to earth. Freeze isn't going to get a #5 class every year, and he's not handpicking players in Mississippi either.
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I suspect that Hudspeth is Priority 1 only with a few who post on this board. Do you really think he is with those who count, namely Stricklin and Keenum, and maybe a few big dollar donors? If so, I sure haven't heard it.
I'd rather have Mullen than Orgeron. MSU is not going to sell recruits BJs
we've let it be known.
we've let it be known.
You can't just go after Hudspeth. Go after some unrealistic big fish and see if anyone bites first (briles, maybe petersen again, schiano will be jobless). Then make sure you at least get an interview with Clemons oc (chad Morris?).
Yeah. I'm sure there are a bunch of better options out there** He definitely shouldn't be priority 1. Names all over this list kicking down the door to get to Mississippi State.
So you want to ignore the guy from Mississippi who views us as his dream job and has 100x the recruiting connections in a 4 state radius of us with a better winning percentage than all of them other than Petersen -- in order to chase after a bunch of guys that view us as the armpit of the world and have no ties to here, reasons to come, or reasons to stay?
Hudspeth's name will be on EVERY hot list in the country right beside the guys you listed. It's like the fact that he's a guy with ties to us causes people to ignore the reality of how big of name he's becoming in coaching circles nationwide -- and how well his resume stacks up against EVERYONE else.
Didn't say anything about options, better or otherwise. What I said, or asked, was: Do Stricklin and Keenum share the views of the "Fire Mullen" camp? I somehow doubt they do. And probably most fans don't either ... I didn't hear a lot of grumbling tonight, or any other night, from the folks I sit around or spend halftime with.
Are you f'ing shittin me? Really?
Get your head out of your ***.
Hudspeth is a perfect fit for this job and had the numbers to prove it. What's more, he wants it.
You may want to re read my post. I said you can't JUST go after Hudspeth. Christ, half the people on here think he's the only person in coaching who would be a good coach for state. I think he would be good and most likely could be the next coach but I'd like the think our AD would put some feelers out there and see if some bigger guys are interested.
I guess the question should be -- who are you sitting around? The same people that wanted to fire Cohen in year 1 because he cusses?
Stricklin and Keenum remind me tremendously of the pigs in Animal Farm at this point. I'm looking through the window at them playing cards with the farmers -- and I can't tell the difference between Templeton and Stricklin. I know I've posted this multiple times now -- but the imagery is sticking with me. IF they are happy regressing to 12th(at best) in a 14 team league in year 5 after we've put $100 mil on the table -- with the other 2 still below us(Arky, Kentucky) recruiting circles around us -- that doesn't speak promisingly about their futures here.
The bottom line is that they will do what they are told on a football search -- or they will be gone too. And a bunch of our money people(or more precisely, their benefactors) have grown up with and wanted Hudspeth for awhile(fact -- regardless of what you "hear" publicly). A handful of people will make that call at the end of the season one way or the other -- and they will inform Stricklin of their decision.
Why would you assume that a message board contingent is anything other than a broad cross-section of our entire fanbase? I realize those posting emotionally tonight may not be -- but in general, I think you can bank on that.
What "bigger guys"? That's my disconnect.
So, when we were courting Cohen -- we should have been placing "feelers" all over the country?
When you've got what you know is the perfect fit -- you grab it when you can and stick with it. We would be totally insane to fire Mullen without a postdated contract in hand from someone else. Who else is going to go for that?
IF Hudspeth had no ties to MSU and limited ties to the southeast -- and was in the MAC at Kent State -- his resume would STILL make him one of the 3-4 best realistic coaching candidates for MSU. He's proven. On 3 different levels now.
What makes Chad Morris a better head coaching candidate that Mark Hudspeth? Think about it and let me know...
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mother 17ing ****. Hire orgeron! I've seen it ******** all now. Hail mother 17ing state. Rah!
mother 17ing ****. Hire orgeron! I've seen it ******** all now. Hail mother 17ing state. Rah!
Huh? Are you kidding me? You might want to check Wallace and Hudspeth's records at Division I schools. Wallace was beyond terrible at Temple. Wallace and Hudspeth are in no way comparable other than the fact that they both had great success at Division II North Alabama.
Do really not think that we should interview anyone else? What if Hudspeth does a **** job, will you change your tune to 'why the 17 didn't stricklinnz do a coaching search?'. Give me a break. And it's 17in absurd to compare Cohen and Hud. Hud coaches in a **** conference and hasn't won a conference title, yet. Cohen coached at a school in the most elite baseball conference in America, won a championship and was a top 10 team in America, and he played and went to state where Hud didn't. I swear if you and some others ran into Mark Hudspeth and he told you to suck his cock your response would be 'spit or swallow sir?'
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That's what I thought. You've got nothing. NO reason to believe that he is NOT the best candidate for our job. Just poor ole MSUing it and arguing for the sake of argument. "But what if he fails?!?11! I know he's about to win the first conference title in the history of Louisiana Lafayette and will have gone 28-10 at what was labeled the worst job in FBS when he arrived -- and is a MSU guy from Louisville and was our best recruiter BAR NONE when he was here as a wr coach -- but by damn there's better candidates all over the place to come be at MSU for 3 years(if THEY AND WE are lucky)--I just can't name them or argue their merits". Yeah -- let's pass over the guy with the #6 or #7 winning percentage in all of FBS after this season in order to go that route again -- I'm psyched.
I never once said 'let's pass over Hud'. I said its idiotic to give him the head coaching job, if and when it's available. But there's no arguing with you because you will take whatever I say and spin it to fit your agenda which is announcing Hud as our next head coach no matter who else may be interested in our job. Hell Hudspeth may not even be all that interested in it. Everyone says it's his dream job but what do we base it I'm besides he coached here once and is from Mississippi. No one here personally knows the guy and he has never came out and said that this is his dream job.
Would you really hire somebody that doesn't have as proven a track record as Hud because they wowed you in an interview? Holy ****. Interviews are not magic and are much worse at predicting success than past success. We're not going to get a realistic candidate with a better resume than Hud. The best we'd be able to do would be a coordinator from a good school, and a lot of those would turn us down. If the administration didn't know anything about him other than his record at other schools, yes, interview him and several other people. But a recent assistant at your school that you are familiar with, that wants the job, and has successful head coaching experience in Div I in your geographic area? And especially when you're hypothetically firing one of the most successful coaches in school history? You don't do a nationwide coaching search. You get an agreement in place with him before you do anything risky with the current coach (who by the way, as frustrating as he is, is still pretty good compared to most coaches, if not compared to coaches in the SEC West).
We should try to hire that Peterson guy. He looks like he'd be good.*
asdfYeah. I'm sure there are a bunch of better options out there** He definitely shouldn't be priority 1. Names all over this list kicking down the door to get to Mississippi State.
This statement implies that he should NOT be priority #1, does it not? If you are chasing other people, when you have someone you KNOW wants to be here -- that makes it obvious that he's not the #1 candidate. Does it not?
I asked you to show me REALISTIC potential candidates with superior resumes -- at which point, we can have a logical debate. You haven't done that. Why is it beneficial to MSU to chase after inferior candidates?
If you are disconnected as hell from something -- please don't comment. Because this is ridiculous. The guy has told EVERYBODY that will listen that it's his dream job. I've personally heard it from his direct family still living in Louisville -- and heard it secondhand from literally hundreds of people. Even the ULL fans know with 100% certainty that MSU is his dream job. They talk about it all the time -- and you can find it on their message boards. There are a handful of people here that are good friends with him as well. Hell, he pulled his name from consideration from the OM job because they wanted him to sign a non-compete clause -- over fear he would leave them for us.
Ask Godfrey about it. He's covered ULL, and he will tell you ALL about Hud's desire to be at MSU. He said last year what needed to happen for us LONG before any of us accepted it.
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