I know Relf can't throw well but why has he degraded?

pDigital32Dawg

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Mullen says he has lost confidence over the season. Is it because we haven't had a bye week and it is just tiring him down playing every week or is he feeling the pressure from winning? How does Mullen go about fixing Relf's problems
"Chris is still a little shaky at times," Mullen said. "He missed a
couple of easy ones. It's kind of funny. He misses some of the easy
throws, and made the tough throws. We just have to get him confident
again."
 

pDigital32Dawg

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Mullen says he has lost confidence over the season. Is it because we haven't had a bye week and it is just tiring him down playing every week or is he feeling the pressure from winning? How does Mullen go about fixing Relf's problems
"Chris is still a little shaky at times," Mullen said. "He missed a
couple of easy ones. It's kind of funny. He misses some of the easy
throws, and made the tough throws. We just have to get him confident
again."
 

GloryDawg

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I don't think he would have said it if he did not mean it. He don't come off as that type of coach.
 

Coach34

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too many posters on here have played college football on playstation and they know that it's Ralph's fault for not hitting the WR when the WR was in the wrong place- and Tyler Russell would have hit the WR's and thrown for 400 yards because he knows how to hit WR's when they are in the wrong place. Mullen is purposely playing the inferior QB because he only likes to win close games
 

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<span>Leon Ralph can't do everything.

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Tyson may not have been an SEC QB but our receivers made him look a lot worse than he really was. Same receivers +1 year of experience and they still suck? Yeah big problem.

We also don't pass protect very well. A little better this year than last though.
 

dudehead

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then they are likewise in the wrong place for Russell which mitigates (or explains to some degree) his 5 pics and makes his passing efficiency better than the numbers indicate. Right? Seems to me what's true for one QB would be true for the other as well.
 

FlabLoser

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....its all his fault. That's not a timing route. There's a long setup and Relf sees the guy a couple seconds before he throws.

I'm not sure Relf has thrown a good post route all year.
 

Coach34

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seems like its been awhile

Russell has built a QB rating on Memphis and garbage time vs Alcorn and Houston

His SEC stats of 0 TD's and 4 picks arent quite stats that a Sixpack Legend should have
 

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I'll grant you that it seems the better play to keep Relf as the main QB now due to his running ability. But do you really want to get into who the better passer is? Relf can't even complete swing passes and bubble screens. His passing is SO bad that we didn't even attempt to throw the whole 2nd half vs FL.

You have been right at who the better choice at QB was for this year, but don't get ridiculous and try to say he is the better passer of the two as well.
 

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Seriously?<div>
</div><div>Relf has a 1:1 TD to Interception ratio in SEC games and that's with less than 15 attempts per game!</div><div>
</div><div>Here are his passing totals versus SEC teams: 110 yds, 35 yds, 148 yds, 33 yds...</div><div>
</div><div>TWICE he's thrown for less than 40 yards. And you want to play the "when was the last time he threw a pick card"? Give me a 17ing break!</div><div>
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It has got to be unnerving just calling for the snap and then praying you'll be able to make a shoelaces catch and still execute the play. That alone has thrown off the timing on our plays every single game. I realize Relf is a lot taller than Lee, but you would think we'd have that worked out a year later.
 

Coach34

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think what he would do after throwing 4 picks in about 3 quarters of playing time vs LSU and Auburn...hell, he was picked vs Alcorn once and they dropped 2 more

Russell playing a full SEC game right now = about 5 INT's
 

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I actually agreed with you that the receivers were a problem. What I disagreed with was your statement, "If the receivers can get a step, then Relf can get the ball to them".

That clearly was not the case Saturday Night.
 

klerushund

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yagsigwadirruzza said:
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Relf's passing is dog-vomit bad. This is not debatable. When he drops back it is a dumpster fire waiting to happen. This has cost us and will continue to hurt us. The back-up's ability is irrelevant.
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</div><div>People who say "dumb fan base" are the lowest common denominator. Go back to 3rd grade or Gene's Page. Those are the only places where calling people dumb carries any weight.</div>
 
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yagsigwadirruzza

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which of these two would cost us the most games? Shut the $#*! up you blithering idiot.
 

klerushund

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<div>yagsigwadirruzza... go make another profile with my name backwards and questioning my sexuality, or whatever helps you get your rocks off. You're clearly a real winner.</div><div>
</div><div>Back on topic...</div><div>
</div>It's obvious he can't pass. He knows it. The staff knows it (see: totally abandoning the pass against Flordia). Now when he passes, there's even more pressure because they are limiting his chances even more. That has to be affecting his confidence. So he's already a less-than-mediocre passer and his confidence is eroding and he's passing to receivers who have been inconsistent to say the least. I'd say that's a decent recipe for degradation.
 
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yagsigwadirruzza

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It's obvious he can't pass.
Really? Ask Arceto Clark how he scored thatjugularslittingtouchdown vs. Georgia.

The staff knows it (see: totally abandoning the pass against Flordia).
Really? By implementing a gameplan that every college coach worth his salt knows you have to do to beat a more talented and speedy team?

Did Mullen somehow miss the memo that instead of doing things in an effort to score more points than the other team on a certain night, he was somehow supposed to come up with a gameplan to impress your dumb ***? Aww, ****, why don't you send it to him again.

I guarantee you Chris Relf, along with the rest of the football team, are enjoying their lives right now.
 

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sooner or later Relf will get hurt with that many carries per game ... I don't think he is "degrading" .... I think the game plan and play calling are partly to blame as well, but that was the intention of the coaching staff in the last couple of games ... game plans change from week to week .... I expect we will run the ball again on Kentucky but I look for a more diverse offense against bama and Arkansas
 

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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">"Really? Ask Arceto Clark how he scored thatjugularslittingtouchdown vs. Georgia."</span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">
</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">That is hilarious. #laughingatyounotwithyou I'm still wondering how Clark managed to catch a pass that was thrown so far behind him.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">Having a discussion with you is an exercise in futility. It is the highest of ironies that you would call our fan base dumb. Do you even read the replies in a post?</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">The game plan worked. I'm not criticizing it. Glad we beat Florida. Good for the team.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">The question in the post is why Relf isn't getting better (or worse, "degrading"). I think that any quarterback might lose some confidence in his ability to throw if his coach just stops calling passes.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">I'm not saying that Relf isn't enjoying being 6-2. I'm not saying the rest of the team isn't enjoying it either. Not sure what that has to do with anything.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">I am saying that if you were looking for a reason why Relf has struggled throwing the ball, a reasonable person (i.e., not yagsigwad...) might conclude that the staff has lost confidence in his ability to get the job done in the air, and consequently his own confidence is waning.</span></font></div>
 
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yagsigwadirruzza

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Good teamfootball players understand that they need to be coached into a position for them to make plays, suited to what they do best.

Smart football fans understand this. Your "reasonable conclusion" is *!%$+*% ridiculous.

I bet you were really a big fan of Croom.</p>
 

Todd4State

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lyle said:
sooner or later Relf will get hurt with that many carries per game ... I don't think he is "degrading" .... I think the game plan and play calling are partly to blame as well, but that was the intention of the coaching staff in the last couple of games ... game plans change from week to week .... I expect we will run the ball again on Kentucky but I look for a more diverse offense against bama and Arkansas


I think it's more likely that we will run the ball even less than it is that we will pass it more with Relf against them.

Our offense will not be more diverse until:

1. Tyler is our QB

2. Our o-line can pass block.

3. We have more and better WR's.
 

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Todd ... do you really think we can beat bama or arkansas with the same game plan we had against florida ? I think both of those teams are very different from florida ... I just don't see us running through the bama d-line ... my point was we will HAVE to pass more and look for other ways to move the ball against them .... and I think we are going to have to score a lot more points than we have been lately in order to stay with arkansas ..... just my speculation, I really hope we can run well against them but I just don't see it happening
 
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I will agree with you that I don't think we can beat Bama with the same type of gameplan that we used on UF. I'm not sure that we can beat Bama this year period. I know they have been shown to be semi-vulnerable this year, but I still just can't see it.

Arkansas is another matter. I think we at least have the potential to beat them using the same game plan that we did against UF. They have given up a lot of yards on the ground in every SEC game they played. UGA 139 yds, Bama 227 yds, AU 330 yds, & OM 185 yds. They even gave up 116 to ULM & 112 to TxA&M. So far, I would say our run game is superior to UGA & OM, maybe roughly equal to Bama (in terms of production, not talent at the RB position) and behind the rented mules.

In order for the game plan to work with Ark, we are going to have to match them early on in scoring. If we can get to midway thru the 3rd quarter within a TD, I think we can win because their D will hopefully be getting worn down from Ballard & Relf pounding them between the tackles and (hopefully) chasing Bump, Heavens, & maybe Carr on some sweeps along with Perkins bouncing some stuff outside. If this plays out, 4 yard runs will turn into 8 to 10 yard runs in the second half. At that point, in theory, we would really only need one defensive stand (either holding them to a FG or forcing a punt) to be in position to win.

It won't be easy, but we can beat Arkansas by playing ball control, limiting their offensive touches, & pounding on their D on the ground.
 

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I guess I better get back to doing "homo things."



The banning was a gift Goat...