I miss kickoffs...

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Remember once upon a time when one good kick return could immediately change a game. That was exciting. I don't even know why they bother any more.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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I have a good idea why they changed the rule

because BAMA was stopping eveybody inside the 15.

And it cuts down on potential injuries.

But the option, is still open.
 
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OldFatDog

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Remember once upon a time when one good kick return could immediately change a game. That was exciting. I don't even know why they bother any more.

I understand that I will be vilified for this but I think kickoffs should be eliminated. After scores, place the ball on the 25 and play ball. The traditional kickoff is way more dangerous than any other play.
 

Hugh's Burner Phone

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I understand that I will be vilified for this but I think kickoffs should be eliminated. After scores, place the ball on the 25 and play ball. The traditional kickoff is way more dangerous than any other play.

What if you need to try an onside kick?
 

PBRME

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The only problem with that is no trick onside kicks. They don’t happen often but when they do they can be a huge momentum boost.
 

Shamoan

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They should have a rule change and force every team to on-side kick every kickoff. The most exciting play in football.

Interesting note....this year, onsides kicks dropped from a historic success rate of around 20% to a low of 9% this past season.
 

PineGroveBully

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Because they changed the kickoff rule to where you don't get the running start that used to make onside returns possible. Don't know the wording or the extent of the rule but that's the gist of them being less successful. Now a team is probably more likely to convert every 4th down under 10 yards to gain in a game than they are to convert an onside kick in that game.
 

Bulldogg31

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How’s about we play make-it-take-it?

Ole Miss’s offense might not have seen the ball all year.
 

HumpDawgy

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Smarter folks than me can figure something out. Maybe let them have the ball on their own 20 with essentially a 4th and 10. Or something.

That is what they are doing in the new professional summer league that will start after the NFL season. No kickoffs and instead of an onside at the end of the game, the losing team gets a 4 and 10, but I believe it is at their 30 or 35.
 

josebrown

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What if you need to try an onside kick?

I kinda like the idea of making it a 4th and 15 play option. If you need to try an online kick now the rules changes are taking away your chances anyhow, but if/when the kickoffs are gone there should be something done to give the scoring team a chance. Wouldn't bother me to just change to it next year. Give the option of kicking or a 4th and 15 from the same spot. Would make games much more interesting.

Yea, I think the Alliance of American Football will include the 4th and 15 play option or kickoff from same line of scrimmage. That's gonna be fun to see how often it's tried, and I think makes games more interesting.
 
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josebrown

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And this may be more of an NFL stat but I think the success of onside kicks was about 46%.

No way in hell the success rate at any level is 46% on converting onside kicks, especially with the rule changes...no running start and same number between ball and side/hashmark on both sides. If there was a success rate that high there'd also be an onside kick rate higher than that. Right now you hardly see them attempted at all.
 

PineGroveBully

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Well I said that "was" the success rate. Between 01-2010 expected onsides were around 20% successful, but surprised onside kicks were 60% successful so it's not impossible that the number of total successes would be in that 40% range.
 

GloryDawg

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The rule that I can't figure why they have it is the bringing the ball out to the 20 when one teach missed a field goal. Hell if you kick from the five yard line and miss the other team should have to take control of the ball on the five yard line.
 
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I read of a proposal where a team would punt for the kickoff with the teams

lined up in a punt formation. The return team would not be allowed to block the punt. This would reduce the speed of impacts due to the lines being engaged at the line of scrimmage rather than the kickoff team being able to build up speed normally seen on a kickoff. Onside kicks would be replaced with one offensive play where the team would have to gain 10-15 yards to retain possession.

Remember once upon a time when one good kick return could immediately change a game. That was exciting. I don't even know why they bother any more.
 
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