i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

[atlwebdawg]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

Now, i knew i should have posted this before Texas Tech is up 19-0, but i firmly believe that in the SEC for US TO COMPETE WITH THE REST OF THE BIG BOYS, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

My dad says that you can't run the spread in the SEC. I feel that we will ALWAYS have lesser talent than about 9 other SEC programs. We can't run traditional offenses and hope to win a lot of games against - Georgia, LSU, Florida, Tenn, etc on a year to year basis.

At Mississippi State, we should try to plan our attack - just like these smaller schools that win with the spread - Tulsa, Texas Tech, etc. ---

Now, if we weren't in the SEC, i think we would be fine running an I-formation offense, but a lot of what is wrong is talent level.

We should ALWAYS WIN BIG IN OUR NON-CONFERENCE GAMES, but in our SEC games, i think we will continue to struggle if we think we can just build a line and run the football like we are some great NFL running team.

Greg Byrne needs to understand that in order to keep ticket sales high - you get an offense that scores a lot of points - that gets fannies in the seats - it's attractive to recruits ---

it's the way to go at Mississippi State --------

Please, someone respond - and let's honestly hear thoughts on the future of our program - can we win 8 or 9 games consistantly? with the same ol philosophy?

 

[atlwebdawg]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

Now, i knew i should have posted this before Texas Tech is up 19-0, but i firmly believe that in the SEC for US TO COMPETE WITH THE REST OF THE BIG BOYS, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

My dad says that you can't run the spread in the SEC. I feel that we will ALWAYS have lesser talent than about 9 other SEC programs. We can't run traditional offenses and hope to win a lot of games against - Georgia, LSU, Florida, Tenn, etc on a year to year basis.

At Mississippi State, we should try to plan our attack - just like these smaller schools that win with the spread - Tulsa, Texas Tech, etc. ---

Now, if we weren't in the SEC, i think we would be fine running an I-formation offense, but a lot of what is wrong is talent level.

We should ALWAYS WIN BIG IN OUR NON-CONFERENCE GAMES, but in our SEC games, i think we will continue to struggle if we think we can just build a line and run the football like we are some great NFL running team.

Greg Byrne needs to understand that in order to keep ticket sales high - you get an offense that scores a lot of points - that gets fannies in the seats - it's attractive to recruits ---

it's the way to go at Mississippi State --------

Please, someone respond - and let's honestly hear thoughts on the future of our program - can we win 8 or 9 games consistantly? with the same ol philosophy?

 

[Dawg725]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

Dude, you are all over the place.

 

[Coach34]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

"My dad says that you can't run the spread in the SEC."

how many snaps Tebow took from under center today? I'll give him a hint- it was 0, nada, nilch, none...- I think that qualifies as Spread

 

[99jc]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

 

[Coach34]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

Spread means you are "spreading the field with your formations"...what you run from there is irrelevant...-the concpet is too remove the heart of the defense out of the box and make them defend the entire field

 

[OEMDawg]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

Kentucky ran the spread all day long. I believe they got a win. 75% of the passes they threw today were screens, either a middle screen to the backs or a WR screen.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

now I'm not questioning that Fla. runs the spread, but what does the shotgun in and by itself have to do with the spread?
I think we've been tru this before but ... this is ********.

 

[OEMDawg]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

What? Look at all the teams running the spread and they are doing it OUT OF THE SHOTGUN, run and pass. Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Florida, Purdue, West Virginia, Michigan. How exactly do you SPREAD the field with multiple receivers and a single back and not run it out of the gun? They may get under center some, but the spread is run mainly out of the shotgun. Hell, most of the time Crooms was running his pathetic version of it, he had Carroll/Lee in the shotgun.

 

[99jc]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

Ha, you can run a lot of formations out of the shotgun, without being in the spread.

Just because a team is in the shotgun... don't have crap to do with the spread.

 

[OEMDawg]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

Yes, but you guys are reaching. Those teams ARE running the spread out of the shotgun. Since you insist on being a douche about this, give us your dissertation on the DIFFERENCE between a "shotgun play" and a "spread offense play out of the shotgun"

 

[Coach34]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

in the shotgun and you are spreading the field, you are running a Spread offense. That cant be argued

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

If you are talking to me, the spread is more of a formation... spreading the field...
fine ok, I played in the single wing offense(for a short time) which ran from the shot gun... go back and look that **** up... how old is that offense.
In the mid 60's Jackson Provine ran in the Notra Dame Box ... which was in the shotgun...( not a single play under center)
Just go look up those offenses and consider that they were run a long time ago... and ain't got **** to do with the spread, but were run from the shot gun....

 

[Coach34]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

nobody is running the Notre Dame box in college football today...offenses are running single wing plays, but most of their formations are with multiple WR's...no team in college football is running the shotgun play after play with 2 TE's...so therefore:

in college football today- Shotgun = Spread</p>

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

Thanks for the +#*@##@ clarification.
Damn you're brilliant , you must be a brain surgeon or a failed football coach

 

[Coach34]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

and you're welcome for the info

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

Thanks, but you have given me NO proof that the shotgun = the spread.
Other than your "********"

 

[Eureka Dog]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

asdf

 

[Coach34]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

name one team in college football that runs half of their offense out of the shotgun that isnt spreading the field with multiple WR's? Just one...

 

[99jc]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

Shotgun formation:
The formation was named by the man who actually devised the formation, San Francisco 49ers coach Red Hickey, in 1960. John Brodie was the first NFL Shotgun quarterback, who beat out former starter Y. A. Tittle largely because he was mobile enough to effectively run the shotgun. Combining elements of the short punt and spread formations ("spread" in that it had receivers spread widely instead of close to or behind the interior line players), it was said to be like a "shotgun" in spraying receivers around the field. (The alignment of the players also suggests the shape of an actual shotgun). Formations similar or identical to the shotgun used decades previously would be called names such as "spread double wing".

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

I ain't your damn son, and I guess at this point I'll say "When you argue with Idiots" that you become one. so

I'll just let you have your way from here.

FOR NOW!
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[Coach34]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

with that? You moron

 

[saddawg]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

We do not HAVE an offensive philosophy. Therein lies most of the problem.

 

[Gene Swindoll]

i need some help here - in a debate with my dad about offensive philosophy for MSU -

Now, i knew i should have posted this before Texas Tech is up 19-0, but i firmly believe that in the SEC for US TO COMPETE WITH THE REST OF THE BIG BOYS, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

My dad says that you can't run the spread in the SEC. I feel that we will ALWAYS have lesser talent than about 9 other SEC programs. We can't run traditional offenses and hope to win a lot of games against - Georgia, LSU, Florida, Tenn, etc on a year to year basis.

At Mississippi State, we should try to plan our attack - just like these smaller schools that win with the spread - Tulsa, Texas Tech, etc. ---

Now, if we weren't in the SEC, i think we would be fine running an I-formation offense, but a lot of what is wrong is talent level.

We should ALWAYS WIN BIG IN OUR NON-CONFERENCE GAMES, but in our SEC games, i think we will continue to struggle if we think we can just build a line and run the football like we are some great NFL running team.

Greg Byrne needs to understand that in order to keep ticket sales high - you get an offense that scores a lot of points - that gets fannies in the seats - it's attractive to recruits ---

it's the way to go at Mississippi State --------

Please, someone respond - and let's honestly hear thoughts on the future of our program - can we win 8 or 9 games consistantly? with the same ol philosophy?

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