I pointed this out on 247, but I don't think there is enough talk

[57stratdawg]

About how stupid of a call going for it on 4th at the end of the game was on Mullen's part.

Before this turns into a Bell debate, he should be automatic from that distance. That's basically a PAT. If we don't have enough faith in him to hit a 20 yard FG late in games, then he doesn't need to get a jersey next week.

 

[CadaverDawg]

About how stupid of a call going for it on 4th at the end of the game was on Mullen's part.

Before this turns into a Bell debate, he should be automatic from that distance. That's basically a PAT. If we don't have enough faith in him to hit a 20 yard FG late in games, then he doesn't need to get a jersey next week.

I agree. Complete bonehead move. The difference in them having to score a TD vs a FG in that situation to beat us, is immeasurable. But at the same time, I ink we are all becoming used to moves like that.

And besides, we got the W!!1!!1. That's all that matters right*

 

[DerHntr]

But but but he competed in practice and was the best we had so he got the start**

 

[muddawgs]

that's because it wasn't stupid

About how stupid of a call going for it on 4th at the end of the game was on Mullen's part.

Before this turns into a Bell debate, he should be automatic from that distance. That's basically a PAT. If we don't have enough faith in him to hit a 20 yard FG late in games, then he doesn't need to get a jersey next week.

it was just a stupid play call. you right he should be automatic from there but the 17ing problem is bell isn't automatic from anywhere. he should get a jersey because he's doing a great job on kickoffs. Other than that, he shouldn't step on the field.

 

[CadaverDawg]

it was just a stupid play call. you right he should be automatic from there but the 17ing problem is bell isn't automatic from anywhere. he should get a jersey because he's doing a great job on kickoffs. Other than that, he shouldn't step on the field.

"A great job on kickoffs"? His first kick last night landed at the 10 yard line I believe. He usually kicks one through the end zone and the rest are returnable. Far from great. He's just an inaccurate kicker with a somewhat decent leg.

 

[drt7891]

I've never seen a place kicker hit so many damn uprights in my whole life. It's absolutely comical. I thought Adam Carlson was bad... Carlson was freakin Janikowski compared to Bell.

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

As I said earlier, the decision to go for it there causes me to severely doubt this staff. Yes, we won. But that was simply not smart.

On the Bell issue, a friend of mine is a huge AU fan and was at the game on the plains. He said before the game, in WARMUPS, Bell missed 5 of 6 from about 35 yards out (not log distance kicks, he just pushed/pulled all of them). Mullen came on the field and said something to Bell. Meanwhile, my friend and his buddies then knew if it was a close game, they were in the driver's seat.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Nobody has

**** on John Michael marlin.

 

[thatsbaseball]

It no big deal anymore. He`s good for one gigantic brain fart every game.

 

[BigMotherTucker]

I agreed w/ him going for it. Mullen was sending Bell, Collins, and everyone watching a message. He didn't trust his kicker OR his D. I for one can't blame him. The only issue I had was the play selection on 4th and 3. Let Dak do the fake run-toe in the ground move, pull up and toss it to a wide open tight end. HailState would still be playing and the game would have been over.

Point is... Mullen couldn't trust Bell or the D. The D just lucked up on the last drive.

 

[57stratdawg]

it was just a stupid play call. you right he should be automatic from there but the 17ing problem is bell isn't automatic from anywhere. he should get a jersey because he's doing a great job on kickoffs. Other than that, he shouldn't step on the field.

Someone on 24/7 said he's 3/3 from inside 30 this year, he hasn't missed a PAT. Even if he misses it, it's basically the same as going for it and not getting it.

My my real issue is that you almost guarantee that you're offense isn't going to touch the ball again. If BG gets into FG range, they're going to sit on it and kick a game winning FG attempt as time expires. If they need a TD, they can't manipulate the clock like that.

 

[57stratdawg]

I agreed w/ him going for it. Mullen was sending Bell, Collins, and everyone watching a message. He didn't trust his kicker OR his D. I for one can't blame him. The only issue I had was the play selection on 4th and 3. Let Dak do the fake run-toe in the ground move, pull up and toss it to a wide open tight end. HailState would still be playing and the game would have been over.

Point is... Mullen couldn't trust Bell or the D. The D just lucked up on the last drive.

If I don't trust me D, then I'm trying to get them all the points I can by kicking the FG.

We're 13th in 3rd down conversion in the SEC and 12th in 4th down. How can you have faith in that, but not Bell making a chip in and our D holding them out of the end zone?

 

[DawgsOnTheWing]

I agree with your play selection if they go for it, but I don't like the call to go for it. I was screaming to kick it last night, and I still think it is the best play to win.

 

[121Josey]

If I don't trust me D, then I'm trying to get them all the points I can by kicking the FG.

We're 13th in 3rd down conversion in the SEC and 12th in 4th down. How can you have faith in that, but not Bell making a chip in and our D holding them out of the end zone?

^^^^ THIS ^^^^

 

[121Josey]

Definitely a no-confidence call. It was even worse than bring out Sobriety to kick the fg. If it would have lost on that decision, that would have been a terminable offense on the spot. Collins saved Mullen's job.

 

[starkvegasdawg]

Someone on 24/7 said he's 3/3 from inside 30 this year, he hasn't missed a PAT. .

He missed a pat against Alcorn state. Him or somebody did.

 

[muddawgs]

Well they don't know what they are talking about

Someone on 24/7 said he's 3/3 from inside 30 this year, he hasn't missed a PAT. Even if he misses it, it's basically the same as going for it and not getting it.

My my real issue is that you almost guarantee that you're offense isn't going to touch the ball again. If BG gets into FG range, they're going to sit on it and kick a game winning FG attempt as time expires. If they need a TD, they can't manipulate the clock like that.

He missed one against Alcorn St. He's almost missed several more. 2 or 3 yards back and he's probably missed 5 or 6 XP's this season.

It's not the same thing, because BG gets the ball at the 20 instead of the 6 yard line. It ended up being the difference in BG bBell Beeing in FG range at the end of the game. If It's anybody other than Bell, I would agree with you kick it. I have no confidence in Bell whatsoever and I'm fine with not kicking another FG the rest of the season. Like I said the other night if we are inside the 35, I'm fine with using all 4 downs trying to get a first down or TD if it's a reasonable 4th down yardage.

I hate seeing Bell trot his no kicking *** out there.

 

[muddawgs]

Definitely a no-confidence call. It was even worse than bring out Sobriety to kick the fg. If it would have lost on that decision, that would have been a terminable offense on the spot. Collins saved Mullen's job.

haha that's great. I guess BG's Receiver dropping the ball was a great defensive call by Collins. Collins didn't save ****. The BG receiver let the ball bounce off his chest is the reason why Mullen got to smile into the cameras last night.

 

[57stratdawg]

He missed one against Alcorn St. He's almost missed several more. 2 or 3 yards back and he's probably missed 5 or 6 XP's this season.

Hes 3/3 with FGs less than 30 yards and 18/19 PATs this year. He would have made the 20 yard FG.

Ill point out again we're AWFUL in short yardage. We were 4-11 last night on 3rd down and 1-3 on 4th. Those odds are a hell of a lot lower than Bell hitting a chip shot.

It it was an immature call from a coach that wanted to puff his chest out and it almost cost us the game. That's unacceptable.

 

[BoDawg.sixpack]

What bothers me is not the call itself, but the fact that our kicker will still

be on the team the next time we tee it up. It is asinine to keep someone on the roster whose job is to kick field goals save for one small caveat....we don't have any confidence he can make a chip shot at home from inside the 20 yard line against a MAC school. The more I think about that the more perplexed I become.

 

[Shamoan]

this x infinity.

collins was about to **** the bed again with his ****** prevent he loves so much. its totally ineffective PERIOD.

the guy wr an easy first down and let the freaking ball bounce off his chest. thats no an exaggeration in any way. collins' **** defense giving up almost 400 yards to bolwing green is in now way acceptable. our defense has no balls whatsoever. soft, lethargic, and stupid is how i would describe both the defense and its much debated coordinator. collins **** the bed. if that dude doesnt go all joe morrow, the collins train would be all but empty. even despite the shittastic performance, some still support this assclown. collins is a damn joke. juice points...pff...its like we are trying to become a laughing stock.

 

[121Josey]

haha that's great. I guess BG's Receiver dropping the ball was a great defensive call by Collins. Collins didn't save ****. The BG receiver let the ball bounce off his chest is the reason why Mullen got to smile into the cameras last night.

I sort of remember that play happening.** But they don't put it in the official stats. Please point it out to me in the official stats. All I see is Collins stopping two drives on 4th down on the verge of field-goal range, down by 1! If they kick a FG, we lose the game.

Oh by the way, they totaled 30 yards on both drives. State D really done got got in the 4th.**

Bowling Green at 13:08	BGSU	MSST
1st and 10 at BGSU 27	Matt Johnson pass incomplete.	20	21
2nd and 10 at BGSU 27	Andre Givens rush for 12 yards to the BwGrn 39 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at BGSU 39	Matt Johnson pass incomplete to Shaun Joplin.
2nd and 10 at BGSU 39	Andre Givens rush for 6 yards to the BwGrn 45.
3rd and 4 at BGSU 45	Matt Johnson pass complete to Shaun Joplin for 7 yards to the MisSt 48 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at MSST 48	Matt Johnson pass complete to Jared Cohen for 8 yards to the MisSt 40.
2nd and 2 at MSST 40	Andre Givens rush for a loss of 1 yard to the MisSt 41.
3rd and 3 at MSST 41	Travis Greene rush for 1 yard to the MisSt 40.
4th and 2 at MSST 40	Matt Johnson pass incomplete to Travis Greene.
DRIVE TOTALS: BOWLGREEN drive: 9 plays 33 yards, 04:16 BOWLGREEN DOWNS

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Bowling Green at 4:21	BGSU	MSST
1st and 10 at BGSU 6	Matt Johnson pass complete to Jared Cohen for 12 yards to the BwGrn 18 for a 1ST down.	20	21
1st and 10 at BGSU 18	Travis Greene rush for 2 yards to the BwGrn 20.
2nd and 8 at BGSU 20	Matt Johnson pass complete to Travis Greene for no gain to the BwGrn 20.
3rd and 8 at BGSU 20	MISSISSIPPI ST penalty 15 yard Personal Foul accepted.
1st and 10 at BGSU 36	Matt Johnson pass complete to Travis Greene for a loss of 1 yard to the BwGrn 35.
2nd and 11 at BGSU 35	Matt Johnson pass complete to Shaun Joplin for 11 yards to the BwGrn 46 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at BGSU 46	Matt Johnson pass incomplete to Ryan Burbrink.
2nd and 10 at BGSU 46	Matt Johnson pass incomplete.
3rd and 10 at BGSU 46	Jordan Hopgood rush for a loss of 1 yard to the BwGrn 45.
4th and 11 at BGSU 45	Matt Johnson pass incomplete to Ryan Burbrink.
DRIVE TOTALS: BOWLGREEN drive: 9 plays 38 yards, 03:06 BOWLGREEN DOWNS

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[57stratdawg]

be on the team the next time we tee it up. It is asinine to keep someone on the roster whose job is to kick field goals save for one small caveat....we don't have any confidence he can make a chip shot at home from inside the 20 yard line against a MAC school. The more I think about that the more perplexed I become.

I really don't think the call was because of a lack of faith in Bell. It was more about an SEC team 'manning' up with a 240 lbs back. But we have sucked dick all year in that situation.

 

[muddawgs]

Hes 3/3 with FGs less than 30 yards and 18/19 PATs this year. He would have made the 20 yard FG.

Ill point out again we're AWFUL in short yardage. We were 4-11 last night on 3rd down and 1-3 on 4th. Those odds are a hell of a lot lower than Bell hitting a chip shot.

It it was an immature call from a coach that wanted to puff his chest out and it almost cost us the game. That's unacceptable.

ummm one of those was Prescott throwing it out of bounds at the end of the game trying to run out the clock. Again you don't know what you are talking about. we are 7-11 on 4th down with at least 4 yards to go. 1 failed attempt was by Williams in the Alcorn game and 1 was by Griffin in the alcorn game which were both after we were up by 40+ points. 1 was Dak trying to run the clock out at the end of the BG game. Take those 3 out and we are 7-8 on 4th and short when it counts. That's pretty 17ing awesome. I'll take that over shank 50/50. Mullen makes a better play call and we score easy and we are 8-8 when it counts.

I'm glad you knew he would have made the 23 yard FG, because you are the only one.

I think Mullen made the right call with a ****** kicker and a struggling secondary. Like I said, Bell misses that "chip shot" then we more than likely lose.

 

[121Josey]

I really don't think the call was because of a lack of faith in Bell. It was more about an SEC team 'manning' up with a 240 lbs back. But we have sucked dick all year in that situation.

Disagree. Nobody in the stadium, however few people that may be, thought a pass was coming. 4 yards is an eternity on 4th down.

 

[Will James]

**** on John Michael marlin.

GO TO 1:09:09

 

[57stratdawg]

Haha holy ****.. I forgot about that.

 

[muddawgs]

This one

I sort of remember that play happening.** But they don't put it in the official stats. Please point it out to me in the official stats. All I see is Collins stopping two drives on 4th down on the verge of field-goal range, down by 1! If they kick a FG, we lose the game.

Oh by the way, they totaled 30 yards on both drives. State D really done got got in the 4th.**

Bowling Green at 13:08	BGSU	MSST
1st and 10 at BGSU 27	Matt Johnson pass incomplete.	20	21
2nd and 10 at BGSU 27	Andre Givens rush for 12 yards to the BwGrn 39 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at BGSU 39	Matt Johnson pass incomplete to Shaun Joplin.
2nd and 10 at BGSU 39	Andre Givens rush for 6 yards to the BwGrn 45.
3rd and 4 at BGSU 45	Matt Johnson pass complete to Shaun Joplin for 7 yards to the MisSt 48 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at MSST 48	Matt Johnson pass complete to Jared Cohen for 8 yards to the MisSt 40.
2nd and 2 at MSST 40	Andre Givens rush for a loss of 1 yard to the MisSt 41.
3rd and 3 at MSST 41	Travis Greene rush for 1 yard to the MisSt 40.
4th and 2 at MSST 40	Matt Johnson pass incomplete to Travis Greene.
DRIVE TOTALS: BOWLGREEN drive: 9 plays 33 yards, 04:16 BOWLGREEN DOWNS

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Bowling Green at 4:21	BGSU	MSST
1st and 10 at BGSU 6	Matt Johnson pass complete to Jared Cohen for 12 yards to the BwGrn 18 for a 1ST down.	20	21
1st and 10 at BGSU 18	Travis Greene rush for 2 yards to the BwGrn 20.
2nd and 8 at BGSU 20	Matt Johnson pass complete to Travis Greene for no gain to the BwGrn 20.
3rd and 8 at BGSU 20	MISSISSIPPI ST penalty 15 yard Personal Foul accepted.
1st and 10 at BGSU 36	Matt Johnson pass complete to Travis Greene for a loss of 1 yard to the BwGrn 35.
2nd and 11 at BGSU 35	Matt Johnson pass complete to Shaun Joplin for 11 yards to the BwGrn 46 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at BGSU 46	Matt Johnson pass incomplete to Ryan Burbrink.
2nd and 10 at BGSU 46	Matt Johnson pass incomplete.
3rd and 10 at BGSU 46	Jordan Hopgood rush for a loss of 1 yard to the BwGrn 45.
4th and 11 at BGSU 45	Matt Johnson pass incomplete to Ryan Burbrink.
DRIVE TOTALS: BOWLGREEN drive: 9 plays 38 yards, 03:06 BOWLGREEN DOWNS

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[Heawww]

Stop posting. Good Lord.

 

[Heawww]

Well you thought WRONG, fool.