he makes a ton of sense.
I really wish Saban would become the CFB Czar or something...
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I learned this week that he is a minority owner of the Nashville Predators.
I would think the transfer portal would be the easiest to fix. Transfer in conference, sit out a year. Exception would be if the coach was fired or left for another program. Transfer out of conference, play immediately.
I would think the transfer portal would be the easiest to fix. Transfer in conference, sit out a year. Exception would be if the coach was fired or left for another program. Transfer out of conference, play immediately.
When he takes responsibility for being one of the ones who helped destroy it, I'll start listening to him more.
Same as said about Cal. Sabans only interest in rules is so Bama can break them. He's the most self centered egotistical coach of our generation.
I could see it going the opposite way of what he’s saying until it’s completely destroyed and they have to start over.
Eligibility to play is going to get extended and the only requirement is good academic standing. As long as you meet that requirement, you should be able to play as long as you want. No limitations on transfers.
NCAA, conferences and schools will never destroy their cash cows that pay for facilities and advertising for their schools and conferences so we know they won’t truly fix it.
You can’t put the smoke back in the box.
Eligibility to play is going to get extended and the only requirement is good academic standing. As long as you meet that requirement, you should be able to play as long as you want. No limitations on transfers.
NCAA, conferences and schools will never destroy their cash cows that pay for facilities and advertising for their schools and conferences so we know they won’t truly fix it.
You can’t put the smoke back in the box.
Why would he care at all about any of that now, though?
Saban is a coach. Every coach that’s ever been successful over the long term has done so by having control of the program, the system, the evaluations, the culture, the discipline….everything. Talented, strong, disciplined, smart, and efficient football players win football games. Developing all of that together in a complimentary way is what the best coaches do, or at least what they did in the past. And the best coaches had a passion for the teaching aspect….both players and subordinates.
The system as it is now completely neuters coaches of the ability to really do any of that to the level they could except just the talent evaluation part. So naturally, it’s to be expected that true coaches are going to not really like what it has become. As has been stated many times in the past, it’s just a fundraising contest now.
They can still do it. They just can't dominate like they used to, and Saban didn't like that.
But his domination is essentially what was killing fan interest.
So what you are saying is that now that the unfair advantages he once had are gone, he quit.
So why would we listen to a single opinion from him now? I would not trust him to dog sit my weiner dog in Starkville, he would inject him with steroids and poision all the other dogs just to win the race.
I've always said, Saban may not be responsible for turning College Football into Big Business, but he's the poster child for it.
You cant really fault him for taking as much money as Bama would give him. And running his team as a modern business, complete with Deming Quality Improvement models, was certainly successful. But here we are.
That said, every time he talks about how to fix this stuff, I also say he should be put in charge.
The problem is it cannot legally be done. A bunch of State AGs sued the NCAA for anti trust over its transfer limitations and won. The AGs were just looking out for those poor students who wanted to choose their own schools...every year.
Stacking the deck with his boosters for years. He's the most crooked coach of our time.
I still think Leach's idea was solid. I think this was close to it:he makes a ton of sense.
you have two categories of players. 1) Amateur. Same rules as the old days. You are set in your scholarship yearly. Etc. 2) Professional. You can be paid like a professional.. but you can also be cut, traded, have a "franchise tag", etc etc.
you pick out of high school. And off you go.
Nope. Not what I said at all. What unfair advantages?
Saban had no unfair advantages whatsoever, besides being the very best college coach that has ever existed in any sport.
If that’s an unfair advantage, then yeah, he’s guilty.
What I actually said or at least attempted to imply is that Saban - and literally all other coaches - are not set up at all for long term success in the current system. Because the only way to win big now is to simply throw the highest amount of money at every problem. You can no longer sustain success at all by building a program on discipline, development, teaching, and execution consistency based on repitition. This is because there is no continuity from one year to the next, and none of those things can be fully set in place in just 5 months.
1) Run a simple offense that can be learned quickly and operated consistently. Must be able to throw the ball.
2) Run every decision through analytics
3) Pay for best players at positions required in the following order of importance: QB, OL, DL, WR, DB, LB, RB, TE, Special Teams
4) Recruit players that already know how to play and what to do. Plug and play.
None of that is coaching. It’s just a video game approach to running a program.
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I wonder why he quit the same time that Harbaugh quit...
I also wonder what he learned from Bill Belichick...
What was unfair was all the underground cheating his assistant coaches did for him and also the money advantages Bama has for years to stack their two deeps. The deals they were privately signing with families for years. Until others starting doing it. That's when he quit. It's coming knowledge in coaching circles.
Give me a break. Alabama and their boosters aren’t even Top 10 in terms of financial resources available for paying players. They never have been.
Did they pay players a lot in the old system? Sure. So did everybody else - LSU, Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, and so forth. The same boosters that were paying players under Saban were paying them under DuBose, Franchione, Shula, Stallings, and so forth. But the results sure as hell weren’t the same as Saban, were they? That’s an unfair advantage compared to the Mississippi State’s and Kentucky’s of the world. But not compared to the other elite programs they had to compete with for talent.
What? Fan interest has never been higher, ratings have never been higher.
Saban built what we have now, his dominance drove competition, investment and fan interest.
In prior years there’d be two or three bowl games left that had much interest (other than to participating teams fanbases). Starting tonight we have 4 straight games that everyone is going to watch, then more on top of that.
It is now. But Saban has been gone for 3 years AND the NIL/portal killed his biggest advantage 2 years before that. Parity has returned, helped along by the righter sized playoff (which has been the obvious move for 25 years).
During the 4-teamer, interest waned. It became about the playoff and 98% of the teams had no chance.
This is why he wants to restrict transfers. Nobody has a two deep anymore because no player wants to ride the bench.
Not only did Saban build interest in T town, but also in places like Oxford and Starkville. Pre 2010 football was fun and I loved it, but CFB took off in the 2010s and turned into a monster. Saban lit the fire.
Personally, i think he’s an ahole and i can’t stand him, but i recognize and appreciate what he built.