I repeat Holman needs to sit.

coach66

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6 foot 10 and won’t hit the damn boards either,

Perry and Woodard play so much harder.
 

o_dawgnabit

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Holman can't play D and Adu can't play offense. It's a great system we have down low.....
 
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He's one of the many with absolutely horrible hands on rebounding. It is quite literally amazing how bad they are at rebounding. Has cost them a ton of points because they have either poor fundamentals on blocking out, are lazy to the boards and most certainly don't go up aggressively to catch the ball. Worst hands collectively in D1
 

muddawgs

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And just like that Holman fouls down 3 with 56 seconds left. I repeat we have the dumbest 17ing team in the SEC.
 

mstateglfr

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And just like that Holman fouls down 3 with 56 seconds left. I repeat we have the dumbest 17ing team in the SEC.

Teams foul all the time down 3 with a minute or less left.
It's a coach to coach decision and a game to game decision.

No idea if Howland wanted that or not, but it's hardly dumb just on the surface.
 

coach66

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He’s just not doing much to help us win so play

The guys that want it the most. He just doesn’t play hard on either end, simple as that.
 

muddawgs

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Teams foul all the time down 3 with a minute or less left.
It's a coach to coach decision and a game to game decision.

No idea if Howland wanted that or not, but it's hardly dumb just on the surface.

well it was pretty 17ing obvious howland didn’t want a foul since he was yelling get back and had a disgusted look on his face when Holman fouled. Why the 17 would you want to foul down 1 possession when you are guaranteed another possession with plenty of time in the clock? That’s as dumb as some of the **** this team does in the court
 

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Amazing to me that someone could have so little competitive fire that he gets absolutely lit up no matter who he’s guarding from game to game. Tonight he allowed Riley Norris, yes Riley Norris, to take him to the hoop on a drive and then allowed him to get an offensive rebound that resulted in an and 1 against Perry. I don’t remember him being this terrible on defense in his earlier years. Was he this bad?
 

coach66

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Yep, Ado on offense is cringe worthy. Let’s go with Perry, Woodard,

Spoons, Peters and Carter getting the most minutes and we can win some games.
 
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hailstate19

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Holman and Ado aren’t doing anything at all RN. Perry is a freshman and tonight he probably played a better SEC game then Holman has ever has ever played.
 
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bruiser.sixpack

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Amazing to me that someone could have so little competitive fire that he gets absolutely lit up no matter who he’s guarding from game to game. Tonight he allowed Riley Norris, yes Riley Norris, to take him to the hoop on a drive and then allowed him to get an offensive rebound that resulted in an and 1 against Perry. I don’t remember him being this terrible on defense in his earlier years. Was he this bad?
Yes. Next question?
 

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If Howland doesn’t understand by now that Holman and Ado need to be off the bench minutes guys, then he needs to go.

Was it only obvious to me that when this two were on the floor at the same time that Bama destroyed us in the lane? Was it only obvious to me that we made our runs with the more athletic freshmen on the floor?

now Ado gives effort but just doesn’t have the smarts or talent. Holman has some specific talent, but has zero effort to make it.
 

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See I disagree. Holman and Ado are y’all but they aren’t built to be post players. Ado is limited on the offensive end so you play him to burn minutes. You play Holman in a press type D. His length is made for the press. We need him and we need him on O. Perry and Woodard are a post presence but still young. We have to play them based on their skill set. If utilized correctly these 4 could be dominant but if you play every team the same way an *** whooping will happen. No team you play should be played the same way on both ends. That’s not all on the players that’s on coaching not looking for opportunities.
I’m a fan of the team but many say we should play zone more and I agree but I think we should press more throughout the game with our perimeter built bigs
 

mstateglfr

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Golfer has gone all in on holman. He'll defend that guy to the death

17 off with that. I simply dont have the seething hate for him that so many here do. He is the board's red headed stepchild for the team.



For many posters here, a lack of understanding the game of basketball + the ability to post one's emotions in real time = message board diarrhea about Holman.
 

mstateglfr

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Why the 17 would you want to foul down 1 possession when you are guaranteed another possession with plenty of time in the clock? That’s as dumb as some of the **** this team does in the court

Because making up a 5pt deficit with 25 seconds left is a lot 17ing more difficult than making up a 3, 4, or 5 pt deficit with 55 seconds left. Fouling a bad free throw shooter(and Bama was overall just bad at them yesterday) increases the odds of only being down 3 or 4 with more time left.
We need possessions in the last minute and that requires as much time as possible. Going 3 for 2 or 2 for 1 on possessions against Bama is what will eat into the lead.

I understand both approaches and will again say that neither is good or bad. Both work sometimes and neither usually works. Meaning being down by 3 with 55 seconds left and the other team with the ball usually means you lose, regardless of the approach to extending the game.
 

Drebin

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17 off with that. I simply dont have the seething hate for him that so many here do. He is the board's red headed stepchild for the team.



For many posters here, a lack of understanding the game of basketball + the ability to post one's emotions in real time = message board diarrhea about Holman.

I was with you before....I thought Holman nonsense was stupid. But after watching him last night stand stationary while watching a guy score at the rim, and standing and watching as someone else grabs a rebound in front of him, and now I'm on board the "Holman needs to grab some pine" train too. Kid is lazy and he makes up for it by being soft. He is a liability on the defensive end. I mean...zero effort. The coaches are seeing this **** on film, if not in real time, so its baffling that it keeps happening.

Perry was an animal. He should be starting ahead of Holman.
 
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mstateglfr

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Amazing to me that someone could have so little competitive fire...

Holman doesnt seem to slide over early enough on help defense. When someone beats a guard off the dribble, Holman often times seems to let the points go. Total guess- I am guessing its to not draw inevitable fouls that come from when big men slide over too late.

That, to me, doesnt equate to a lack of competitive fire. Did you really not see Holman in the closing minutes? He was extremely active in the full court press and helped trap a player off an inbounds pass to cause a turnover. He also dove on the floor for a loose ball in the last couple minutes.
I dont understand why his play is seen as lacking competitive fire. No- he isnt some outwardly emotional player that flies all over the place. He isnt a bigger version of Lamar Peters. If he were, I am sure he would be criticized over and again for letting his competitive emotions get the best of him. I am sure of that because the one thing I know for sure about all this is that SPS will tear a player down regardless of what the do or dont do. Damned either way when there are this many opinions given.
 

coach66

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Nobody hates anybody, surely you know this. He is getting called out for

playing like ****. I hope the coaches are doing the same.
 
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