but today's game is a must win. It would give us a much needed series win and give us a lot of confidence heading into a home series against UF. It could mean the difference in hosting a regional or being sent to Miami, Fl or Tallahassee etc.. Losing three series in a row will be tough to overcome. I don't mind Bracewell starting today but damn we need Lindy back and Cohen 17ed up the game Friday night by not closing it down. We have had the opportunity to take two from LSU and UK and if we **** the bed today, it will really set us back...Sorry if I'm stating the obvious...carry on, and I will try to refrain from posting in anymore baseball threads until later in the year....
I said I wouldn't make a baseball post until mid to late April...
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You mean 4 series in a row. If we loose today we will have lost 4 series in a row!!! let that sink in
I think the main danger in losing this game is...
some of the Cohen-ites are going to be forced to reevaluate the program's ceiling with him at the helm.
some of the Cohen-ites are going to be forced to reevaluate the program's ceiling with him at the helm.
Another psychotic evaluation of a baseball team attempting to place the weight of the season on one regular season game...Ridiculous.
If we go 16-14 in the SEC and 2-2 in the remaining nonconference, we are HOSTING. It does NOT MATTER how we get there... This game is just one of 22 remaining on the SEC schedule -- or 26 remaining overall. JUST ONE. The season is NOT on the line today.
You can bookmark it and let me know when I'm right.
And for the record, I think we've got an excellent chance to win today.
If we go 16-14 in the SEC and 2-2 in the remaining nonconference, we are HOSTING. It does NOT MATTER how we get there... This game is just one of 22 remaining on the SEC schedule -- or 26 remaining overall. JUST ONE. The season is NOT on the line today.
You can bookmark it and let me know when I'm right.
And for the record, I think we've got an excellent chance to win today.
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Nomination for overstatement of the year. we have gone from being the worst program in the conference to a competitive program to a program that has a shot to win every series.
The next step is to learn to win the close ones. That's whats hampered us. Do we make dumb decisions? Yes, but at the end of the day, we've lost 4 conf games by 2 or fewer and in 3 of them we have been tied or led after the 6th. By contrast, OM has found a way to win some of those and is 4-4 to our 3-5 despite hitting 25 points worse than us in conference. They have 4 regulars hitting under 200 in conference.
Maybe things won't work out, but to say at this point we should doubt Cohen's ceiling is an odd statement.
The next step is to learn to win the close ones. That's whats hampered us. Do we make dumb decisions? Yes, but at the end of the day, we've lost 4 conf games by 2 or fewer and in 3 of them we have been tied or led after the 6th. By contrast, OM has found a way to win some of those and is 4-4 to our 3-5 despite hitting 25 points worse than us in conference. They have 4 regulars hitting under 200 in conference.
Maybe things won't work out, but to say at this point we should doubt Cohen's ceiling is an odd statement.
Let's evaluate where we are right now -- vs where we've been in past years at the same point in time. "Reevaluating the ceiling with him here?" Laughably ridiculous. Let's look at that alleged "ceiling"...
We are 13th in Boyd ISR as of today -- As of this week in previous years:
2012 - 49th
2011 - 31st
2010 - 53rd
2009 - 65th
2008 - 118th
2007 - 25th
2006 - 12th(we all know how it went after that first series loss @ Alabama)
2005 - 19th
2004 - 34th
2003 - 18th
2002 - 53rd
2001 - 64th
2000 - 23rd
1999 - 14th
1998 - 29th
1997 - 21st
In Boyd Nations' ISR database(designed to measure how good a team actually is and used HEAVILY by the selection committee) -- this is the second-best we've been sitting as of this week in 17 17'n years.
But, yeah, let's reevaluate**
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The fact that you are saying that based on the outcome of today's game shows how stupid our fans are. So if we win this game we are fine, but if we lose this game Cohen's ceiling is not high? That's some ignorant stuff man. Losing to UCA was not good. Going 1-2 against LSU, Kentucky, and Arkansas is not bad. We obviously want more, but some of you are acting like we are entitled to win these series.
Very true... but here is the problem. We are not on the path to finishing 16-14 in the SEC. We are on a path to finishing more like 12-18 in the SEC. True, the entire season is not about this one game or series, but it IS about losing four series straight. Losing four series straight does not put us on a path to finish 16-14 in the best conference in the land. I agree that we still have an excellent chance to win today but you need to look at the bigger picture here.
I need to look at the bigger picture? I'm the only one in this entire thread looking at the big picture...
On pace to finish 12-18? No, not really -- nevermind that this run has been 3 of the 4 best teams that we will play in the SEC this year overall.
Did you think the season was over last year as well after we started 5-10 in the SEC against tremendous competition? Many here did. Of course, then the schedule eased off a bit, we got a little healthier, and we finished on an 11-4 SEC run -- which turned into 16-5 SEC run...
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Our pitchers can't even get out of the first inning,
we cant pull out a 1 run game to save our lives, and you think we are in line to finish above 500 in the best conference in America and host? God I hope your right.
we cant pull out a 1 run game to save our lives, and you think we are in line to finish above 500 in the best conference in America and host? God I hope your right.
We are lacking our ace this week. Against the preseason #1 -- a team that tied for 3rd in the COUNTRY last year in Omaha and was a gnats *** away from playing for a championship. We started our setup man today. You do understand all that right?
College pitchers often get better command and location as the year goes on and they get more and more comfortable. That's exactly what happened for us last year as the season wore on -- I don't see any reason to think it can't happen this year. Is it guaranteed? Certainly not... But are you willing to bet against it?
I am surprised, with a statement such as this one, that you are able to figure out how to use a computer, access the internet, find this message board, utilize a keyboard, and spell out words. Must've been a big day for you.
Preseason #1 and last year don't mean anything. See us @ preseason top 5. This is a nice team, but they're clearly not LSU or Vandy.
It's ALWAYS something. ALWAYS an excuse.
Look man, we are losing close games and that bothers me. Because its baseball, you can find an excuse for us to lose every single time. We are playing top tier teams and losing series... Do you know what that tells me about our team? It tells me that we are not a top tier team. It does not mean that our season is over, and it for sure does not mean that we can't make an end of the year run. It just means that as of right now, we are not as good as we think.
Look man, we are losing close games and that bothers me. Because its baseball, you can find an excuse for us to lose every single time. We are playing top tier teams and losing series... Do you know what that tells me about our team? It tells me that we are not a top tier team. It does not mean that our season is over, and it for sure does not mean that we can't make an end of the year run. It just means that as of right now, we are not as good as we think.
You are literally the worst baseball poster I've ever seen. We are every bit the team LSU, Vandy and Arkansas is.
How's your Live Stats feed? That's about the closest you get to watching our games, that much is obvious.
How's your Live Stats feed? That's about the closest you get to watching our games, that much is obvious.
What excuse? We've disappointed the past few weeks -- that is not an excuse.
We've STILL got a winning record in close games. You almost always split close games over the course of a season. Even very good teams.
How does it "tell you we are not a top tier team"? We've been legitimately beaten once or twice all year. We've BEATEN OURSELVES in the majority of our losses. Does that mean we're "not a top team team"? No. It means we've had a few frustrating, disappointing games. You are simply trying to take a SMALL piece of a total puzzle and apply it to tell a bigger story. It doesn't work.
The last time we hosted, we were 8-6 in one-run games. We are currently 5-3.
Please tell me that's a joke. Until our pitching staff starts getting out of it's own way, even the most blind, dumbass, sunshine pumping MSU fan can't say that. We're going to finish the SEC schedule somewhere between 5 and 10 games behind LSU and Vandy and likely lose both of those series, but you think we're as good as they are?
Surely that's a typo.
Listen to Cohen post game interviews. He claims we're not only just as good as teams we lose to but better.
"We are lacking our ace this week. Against the preseason #1 -- a team that tied for 3rd in the COUNTRY last year in Omaha and was a gnats *** away from playing for a championship. We started our setup man today."
Excuses^^^^
My beef with you is the fact that you think we are somehow in line to go 16-14 and host. When we clearly have not given ANYBODy a reason to believe that. Nothing else
Excuses^^^^
My beef with you is the fact that you think we are somehow in line to go 16-14 and host. When we clearly have not given ANYBODy a reason to believe that. Nothing else
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20-10 vs 15-15 is 5 games behind them. That's not possible?
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We could easily be 5 games behind both of them after today: 8-1 vs 3-6.
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I see you conveniently ignore everything else in the post. But the part you quoted in bold was true too. You'd know this, except for the second paragraph in my post.
Everything else in the post was just you bitching, it's not like you posted anything substantial. I'm watching the game on ESPN3 though since you asked.
You're right, if we don't come back today (hoping we do) we won't be on pace to go 12-18. We'll be on pace to go 10-20.
While, for me, today's game is not some overall evaluation of the state of the program, you have to understand why people are frustrated. They were told to expect greatness, and they're not getting it yet. Of course they are upset.
But he doesn't understand this. He thinks people are basing this entire season on one game. He does not understand that people are frustrated that our "top tier" team is consistently losing series to other "top tier' teams. It's more about firing off useless stats and "thats baseball" to him. The only stat I will throw off is 0-3. And that might be our SEC series record after this inning. Its asinine really.
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I do understand why they are frustrated. Do you HONESTLY believe everyone is not frustrated? Every single one of us?
The difference is that some of us have the ability to see the endgame through the frustration -- without throwing up a bunch of shortsighted stupidity in the process.
Who was told to expect greatness? From who? The goal in the preseason was to host a regional this year. That goal is still very much in focus...