I thought Alcorn was a Historically Black College or University.
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Most notably MVSU- have gone to white or Latino players simply because college baseball is more popular with those demographic groups, and many of them come from better high school programs than some of the inner city schools, therefore, better fundamentals.
(That's racist, but true)
(That's racist, but true)
Not enough blacks play baseball at a high enough level for college baseball. They gravitate toward football and basketball. Therefore, even HBCU schools have baseball teams that are made up of mostly white and Latino players.
To blame an intergrated Alcorn baseball team on lack of brilliant fathering technique in the black community is fringe thinking even by sixpackpseak.com standards.
and fortunately for you, Jesse Jackson doesn't come to SPS I would imagine. Sharpton may though...
that blacks should be good in all sports and have a more significant presence. This implication, in itself, is racist on the part of the people who point this out and/or write articles about it. How about they gravitate toward football and basketball b/c they weren't as good as others in baseball.
FYI, I'm not accusing this thread but just pointing out something that goes on in the media.
FYI, I'm not accusing this thread but just pointing out something that goes on in the media.
CuzDawg said:
I heard Dave Winfield say- "Without black baseball players, there would be no five tool baseball players in the game." If John Kruk had said that about white baseball, players, he would be raked through the coals by the media, fired, and forced to make a public apology before he was executed.
Also, Dave Winfield- Josh Hamilton, Jeff Francouer, JD Drew, Bryce Harper in a few years, Buster Posey, Chase Utley, and etc. all disagree. Not to mention all of the five tool Latino players such A-Rod and Albert Pujols.
I thought Winfield's statement was incredibly ignorant and stupid.
was on....baseball. I continued to check the listing because I saw just as many non-blacks as there were blacks...Not exaggerating. Interesting. It may not be new but it sure does seem to have increased the past few years.
Jeff Francouer? Is striking one of the five tools? Is being lazy and/or hurt one of them too? How else to include JD Drew? Throw in Ryan Braun and Matt Holliday to represent whitey. I'm also not sure how Buster Posey makes that list, but I'll let it slide.
DawgatAuburn said:
there are so many baseball players that have five tool ability- which is what I was going for with that list- but there are so few that actually USE those five tools. That's why I wish there was a sixth and seventh tool- baseball instincts and work ethic/leadership/character. I think those last two things get so overlooked. I would certainly take a guy like a Dustin Pedroia over those two any day of the week.
Because I agree with you- Francouer is a five tool player in terms of ability- as is Milton Bradley, but no way would I want either of them on my team.
Over the past several years, out and about town, I've seen a lot of white guys who looked like baseball players [that stereotype] wearing AAMU baseball stuff. That historically black institution.
students. I have heard that white students get very good schollies just based on this fact. Also, kids are specializing in one or two sports earlier now and baseball would be the most expensive to play. Like other people have stated, the equipment and expenses to play baseball keep lower income kids from concentrating on it.
white athletes playing football and basketball.......me either. -----------------------------> One Way
because of economic reasons. Baseball is just as expensive as soccer in the US. It's a lot easier to play a sport where all the equipment is provided (high school football, basketball courts in inner city). In baseball, inner city rarely has baseball fields and the cost of travel for these summer teams in baseball is rather expensive - just like select soccer.
that none of this really matters at all.
College and professional athletes make up such a small sample of the population at large that you just can't expect the percentages to be equal. It's simply a stupid study to even consider. MLB doesn't have a lack of racial diversity problem. It has a long boring games, steroid, and terrible commissioner problem. The NFL doesn't have a racial diversity problem, it has a labor dispute getting in the way of one of the most successful businesses in the world. The NHL doesn't have a racial diversity problem, it just isn't played anywhere south of where it's cold as crap and no one cares.
And you're right. Imposing some idea of athletic talent based on skin color is ridiculous and prejudiced. And really, the racial makeup of high school sports is probably more like the actual population. But to expect a league with 1,600 players to represent the racial makeup of a population of over 300 million racial makeup is simply ridiculous. To even expect it in college is asinine. How many players in D1? 117 or so x 80? Don't even know the roster sizes actually, but using those numbers, you've got almost 9,400 D1 football players. That's 0.003% of the population. Statistically insignificant.
College and professional athletes make up such a small sample of the population at large that you just can't expect the percentages to be equal. It's simply a stupid study to even consider. MLB doesn't have a lack of racial diversity problem. It has a long boring games, steroid, and terrible commissioner problem. The NFL doesn't have a racial diversity problem, it has a labor dispute getting in the way of one of the most successful businesses in the world. The NHL doesn't have a racial diversity problem, it just isn't played anywhere south of where it's cold as crap and no one cares.
And you're right. Imposing some idea of athletic talent based on skin color is ridiculous and prejudiced. And really, the racial makeup of high school sports is probably more like the actual population. But to expect a league with 1,600 players to represent the racial makeup of a population of over 300 million racial makeup is simply ridiculous. To even expect it in college is asinine. How many players in D1? 117 or so x 80? Don't even know the roster sizes actually, but using those numbers, you've got almost 9,400 D1 football players. That's 0.003% of the population. Statistically insignificant.
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Black baseball players from poor backgrounds tend to go straight to the minor leagues for financial reasons. Same for poor white players. This takes a lot of black athletes out of the college baseball programs. That and it being the third most popular sport for black athletes is the reason we do not see many black college baseball players, even on black college rosters.
I say 20 years. When current kids grew up and begin buying tickets to games and their kids play soccer too.
I played baseball all my life and hope it stays popular. But soccer is a great sport. I watch as much or more EPL than I do MLB. I could careless about softball though. I hope womens soccer buries that crap. Women playing a bastardized version of baseball on a little league field....
I played baseball all my life and hope it stays popular. But soccer is a great sport. I watch as much or more EPL than I do MLB. I could careless about softball though. I hope womens soccer buries that crap. Women playing a bastardized version of baseball on a little league field....
