I thought Stansbury coached his *** off last night.

EmoryBellard

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And at Vandy, for that matter. I've been critical of him, but my sense is he had us in the best possible position to win these games.

On a related note, is it my imagination, or is Stans doing more direct coaching of players during TOs than in the past? Seems like he used to mostly talk to the assistants, who did the player coaching.
 

EmoryBellard

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And at Vandy, for that matter. I've been critical of him, but my sense is he had us in the best possible position to win these games.

On a related note, is it my imagination, or is Stans doing more direct coaching of players during TOs than in the past? Seems like he used to mostly talk to the assistants, who did the player coaching.
 

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However, The Stansbury Stall remains the most frustrating thing in all of sports. It has never worked, yet we keep doing it entirely too early. It always seems that we are up 10 or so with about 5 minutes left....... Stall....... and BAM the game is tied with 1:30 left.
 

Hector.sixpack

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Our team is more disciplined, we run more plays..albeit not enough, but still its much better.The plays he has drawn up in critical moments have worked (weather we made the shots or not). The defensive double team at the end last night was great. I think Stricklin works well with our coaches, showing support and marketing the programs (practice facility)and at the same time helping them work on their weaknesses. I'm pretty sure Stans has gotten some constructive critism from Stricklin but he's man enough to work on those things because he's getting great support.
 

Hanmudog

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I will be the first to admit that I freaking hate it when Stansbury goes to the stall but other than a couple of possessions we really did not do the stall last night. We simply turned it over a couple of timesthen missed a one and one and then LSU just came down and threw up some prayers that got answered. The blown lead had very little to do with the stall last night.
 

dawgstudent

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was when Sidney was trying to get the ball to Bost and it ended up in being a turnover. That was pure laziness on Bost, Sidney, and the rest of the team.
 

EAVdog

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If you're up 11 with 4 minutes to go it's good to run the clock out. But what you simply cannot to do is; Turn the ball over, allow a quick transition 3 pointer. We did both. That was just very bad execution.

The true 'Stansbury Stall' is when we're up by 20 on UNC in the first half and start trying to run the clock out!
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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just because our senior all-star point guard has a problem with being lazy with his dribble and not protecting the ball doesn't still make it the right move.
 

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But you can't really put much of that on Stansbury. Jesus had money on LSU to cover. Thats the only logical explanation for all those 3s at the end.
 

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EAVdog said:
Sometimes the "stall" is the right thing to do.

If you're up 11 with 4 minutes to go it's good to run the clock out. But what you simply cannot to do is; Turn the ball over, allow a quick transition 3 pointer. We did both. That was just very bad execution.

The true 'Stansbury Stall' is when we're up by 20 on UNC in the first half and start trying to run the clock out!
No. Our stall is never the right thing to do, because we never get a good shot from it. A stall is ok but you still have to get a good shot. Stansbury just sucks at it. I admit he isdoing a lot better lately. Now if he could only do his job and get Sidney to play a goodgame for more than half of a half. He also needs to teach them full court offense. We are lost in that department. ButStansbury has stepped his game up some, I will give him that. That was still two sloppy teams last night, no matter how you look at it.
 

fishwater99

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Especially if you can hit free-throws, like we can now..
Last night, it was our lazy passes and turnovers and LSU being on fire..
But when you start the STALL with 10 minutes left in the game, then that's way too early to run time off the clock.
 

Hanmudog

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Again, the stall (if there even was one) was not the problem. The problem was Sidney making a lazy hand off to Bost that got stolen, Bost dribbling off his foot, Lewis missing a one and one, and Hood throwing it away on an inbounds pass.

Everyone is so quick to lay the blame on Stansbury but last night had little or nothing to do with the stall and everything to do with poor execution by the players and LSU having the three point shooting game of their lives.
 

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That's why we can't close out games. We have four wins in conference and all were similar to last night, because we can't execute the stall correctly. Now don't you think Stansbury might have something to do with that if we never execute it?
 

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something like 6-1 in games decided by 5 points or less, with the one loss coming to Baylor? I'm no Phil Jackson, but I would consider that closing out games. Please keep posting on basketball, OEM.
 

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KurtRambis4 said:
something like 6-1 in games decided by 5 points or less, with the one loss coming to Baylor? I'm no Phil Jackson, but I would consider that closing out games. Please keep posting on basketball, OEM.
I absolutely agree - it's funny to me how after we lost to Baylor a lot of folks on this board we saying that Stans "never wins the close games".

I guess since it's been proven false it will never be brought up again (until the next time we lose a close game).

There was a guy who called the Bo Bounds show this morning bitching about how Stans can't coach. Yeah, we're only sitting at 17-4 with a chance to be in 3rd place in the SEC after Saturday's game at Florida. Obviously if we had any other coach we'd be winning games like 500-6 every night.

17-ing Stans. He sucks.**
 

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Last night was just one of those freak occurrences where LSU could have kicked the ball in thehoop from half court and there was not a darn thing we could do about it. We were absolutely up in their grill on all but one of those threes at the end but they still hit them.

People just look for something to ***** about but I have no complaints about Stansbury's coaching at the end last night. Bost, Hood, and Sidney just got sloppy with the ball on a few possessions then Lewis clanged the front end of a one and one. Its not like we were taking rushed shots at the end of the shot clock because of a stall.
 

tenureplan

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And Bost's over and back was stall related because he got pinned against the halfcourt line. But other than that I agree.
 

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KurtRambis4 said:
something like 6-1 in games decided by 5 points or less, with the one loss coming to Baylor? I'm no Phil Jackson, but I would consider that closing out games. Please keep posting on basketball, OEM.
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oh yeah you are just absolutely right. I mean we are just doing awesome with this stall. When you are up by 11 and start the stall and then have to trap and steal to close the game out, that is how you 17in close out games well? I read an LSU board yesterday. Everyone had the same opinion on how to beat us. "just be close at the end and we will win." You wanna know why they said that? Because we can't close out games. I don't mean just win them. I mean if we have a good lead, keep the good lead. We are are 6-1 in games decided by 5 or less because we let them creep into the game at the last seconds by not executing the stall correctly. Can you not see that?
 

bullysleftnut

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lars larson said:
KurtRambis4 said:
something like 6-1 in games decided by 5 points or less, with the one loss coming to Baylor? I'm no Phil Jackson, but I would consider that closing out games. Please keep posting on basketball, OEM.
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oh yeah you are just absolutely right. I mean we are just doing awesome with this stall. When you are up by 11 and start the stall and then have to trap and steal to close the game out, that is how you 17in close out games well? I read an LSU board yesterday. Everyone had the same opinion on how to beat us. "just be close at the end and we will win." You wanna know why they said that? Because we can't close out games. I don't mean just win them. I mean if we have a good lead, keep the good lead. We are are 6-1 in games decided by 5 or less because we let them creep into the game at the last seconds by not executing the stall correctly. Can you not see that?
The thing is, I don't recall having double digits leads in any of our close wins with less then 5 minutes to go (except last night).

With 5 minutes left to play:
Against Detroit, we lead 66-63, and were up 2 with 2 minutes to play. Detroit Game
Against Baylor, we were tied at 50, and were up 2 with 2 minutes to play. Baylor Game
Against Utah State, we were tied at 58, and down 2 with 2 minutes to play. Utah State Game
Against Tennessee, we lead 53-49, and were up 6 with 2 minutes to play. Tennessee Game
Against Alabama, we trailed 42-46, and were tied at 48 with 2 minutes to play. Bama Game
Against Vandy, we lead 63-60, and were up 6 with 2 minutes to play. Vandy Game
Against LSU we lead 65-54, and were up 9 with 2 minutes to play. LSU Game

In none of these games did we blow big leads except LSU.

In other words, once again you are full of ****.
 

KurtRambis4

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idiot. What about being 6-1 in close games suggests we can't close out? You say that the key to beating us is keeping it close near the end. What part of 6-1 suggests that? That has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read. "Hey you know how to beat State?! Keep it within 5 points!!1" Seriously, are you retarded?
 

Hanmudog

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LSU is 2-5 this year in games decided by less than 6 points. That "keep it close" strategy ain't working so well for them.
 

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KurtRambis4 said:
idiot. What about being 6-1 in close games suggests we can't close out?\
My point is that the stall is the reason they are close. We should have won by double digits against Bama, Tennessee, and LSU at home. But we didn't because we started the damn stall and let them stay in the game.
 

Hanmudog

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lars larson said:
KurtRambis4 said:
idiot. What about being 6-1 in close games suggests we can't close out?\
My point is that the stall is the reason they are close. We should have won by double digits against Bama, Tennessee, and LSU at home. But we didn't because we started the damn stall and let them stay in the game.
I went to all those games and barely recall any kind of stall. The UT and Bama games were close thoughout so we never had a big lead to blow. Sure we should have won those games by larger margins but stalling had not a damn thing to do with it. Do you even watch our games at all?
 

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if its under 2:00 minutes and your up by more than one possession and you are shooting free throws. So the stall is not bad for a couple of possessions before the 2 minute mark. I think what pisses alot of people off is Stans tries to do it with 5 or 6 minutes left in the game, which is probably a couple of possessions too early. I am not complaining though.Stans has won the close ones this year for sure
 

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fishwater99 said:
Go back and check the score of those games with 10 and 12 minutes left...
If I did and it turns out you're wrong again, then it'd be "Well, we start stalling with 15 minutes left obviously!"

The whole premise of Lars' latest argument is ********.

ETA: I went back and checked. You're wrong.