I was giving you libs a break for Thanksgiving but let me respond

[WVPATX]

I have not posted recently about any policemen killed in the line of duty, such as Ricardo Galvez who was assassinated while sitting in his car in California on Nov. 18th. More importantly, I didn't care about the race of the killers. Some were black, some white and others brown. I cared about the importance of the fact that police lives matter. They perform an incredibly dangerous job and are being vilified by the BLM crowd. Yes, there are bad cops and they should be ousted or arrested when they do something wrong. But the vast majority of cops are good and there is no systematic killing of black people by police officers. The BLM crew is going to get more black people killed because cops won't patrol as aggressively in high crime neighborhoods (e.g. Baltimore).

All lives matter.

 

[MountaineerWV]

I have not posted recently about any policemen killed in the line of duty, such as Ricardo Galvez who was assassinated while sitting in his car in California on Nov. 18th. More importantly, I didn't care about the race of the killers. Some were black, some white and others brown. I cared about the importance of the fact that police lives matter. They perform an incredibly dangerous job and are being vilified by the BLM crowd. Yes, there are bad cops and they should be ousted or arrested when they do something wrong. But the vast majority of cops are good and there is no systematic killing of black people by police officers. The BLM crew is going to get more black people killed because cops won't patrol as aggressively in high crime neighborhoods (e.g. Baltimore).

All lives matter.

Please. This isn't even close to a response to my question. Where is the Colorado incident? Huh? You say you "didn't care" about the race of the killers. BULLSH!T. You mention a cop killed on Nov. 18th. What race were the killers, or suspected killers? A white guy kills a cop in Colorado and .........**crickets**......

You have been exposed. Not that you haven't been before this, but you are a RACIST neo-con that serves no purpose other than to spread lies and mistruths.

 

[WVPATX]

Please. This isn't even close to a response to my question. Where is the Colorado incident? Huh? You say you "didn't care" about the race of the killers. BULLSH!T. You mention a cop killed on Nov. 18th. What race were the killers, or suspected killers? A white guy kills a cop in Colorado and .........**crickets**......

You have been exposed. Not that you haven't been before this, but you are a RACIST neo-con that serves no purpose other than to spread lies and mistruths.

Once again, you lie. Go through my posts on police killings. The killers were white, black and brown. I realize it is likely difficult for you to read, so you may want to have someone read them to you.

And I didn't post about the officer assassinated in California until today which proved my point.

 

[WVUBRU]

You have been exposed. Not that you haven't been before this, but you are a RACIST neo-con that serves no purpose other than to spread lies and mistruths.

I have no clue if he is a racist or not but you are dead on correct about everything else and yes this Troll has been exposed many times.

 

[WVPATX]

I have no clue if he is a racist or not but you are dead on correct about everything else and yes this Troll has been exposed many times.

LMAO. You are always on your presidential kneepads and you claim I have been exposed?

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Thanks, we really appreciate it (the break from your posts)!

 

[WVPATX]

Thanks, we really appreciate it (the break from your posts)!

Glad you enjoyed the respite.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

I have not posted recently about any policemen killed in the line of duty, such as Ricardo Galvez who was assassinated while sitting in his car in California on Nov. 18th. More importantly, I didn't care about the race of the killers. Some were black, some white and others brown. I cared about the importance of the fact that police lives matter. They perform an incredibly dangerous job and are being vilified by the BLM crowd. Yes, there are bad cops and they should be ousted or arrested when they do something wrong. But the vast majority of cops are good and there is no systematic killing of black people by police officers. The BLM crew is going to get more black people killed because cops won't patrol as aggressively in high crime neighborhoods (e.g. Baltimore).

All lives matter.

What a crock. Nobody is saying cops' lives don't matter. And nobody is saying that white lives don't matter. If you cannot see the legitimate concerns blacks have about their historical treatment by law enforcement in this country that continues to this day, then you don't want to see it. Rampant episodes of abuse and cover-up often without any accountability. The chicago jaywalker killing is a classic example. The kid was senselessly murdered by a cop for basically being a jaywalking jackass. It was swept under the rug. the kid's family got nowhere. Not until the media became aware and the video-a video the cops knew incriminated the dirty cop- was released was there a hint of accountability and justice. And it took over a year. They had this video for a year. This kind of thing has gone on forever. Black people are tired of it. And now that we have a Black president who has himself seen the way Blacks have been treated, he's had enough too. And any reasonable, free-thinking, unbiased person should also have reached their limit of these abuses. Hence, the BLM movement. Only a racist such as yourself would discount the moral high ground the people in this movement have.

 

[WVPATX]

What a crock. Nobody is saying cops' lives don't matter. And nobody is saying that white lives don't matter. If you cannot see the legitimate concerns blacks have about their historical treatment by law enforcement in this country that continues to this day, then you don't want to see it. Rampant episodes of abuse and cover-up often without any accountability. The chicago jaywalker killing is a classic example. The kid was senselessly murdered by a cop for basically being a jaywalking jackass. It was swept under the rug. the kid's family got nowhere. Not until the media became aware and the video-a video the cops knew incriminated the dirty cop- was released was there a hint of accountability and justice. And it took over a year. They had this video for a year. This kind of thing has gone on forever. Black people are tired of it. And now that we have a Black president who has himself seen the way Blacks have been treated, he's had enough too. And any reasonable, free-thinking, unbiased person should also have reached their limit of these abuses. Hence, the BLM movement. Only a racist such as yourself would discount the moral high ground the people in this movement have.

LOL. You calling me a racist after calling an african american that didn't think the way you wanted him to, an Uncle Tom. Not to mention your many anti-semitic posts.

Police officers are not systematically killing blacks. Far more whites are killed by police than blacks, even though blacks commit nearly 50% of all aggravated felonies. The BLM movement is costing african americans their lives as police stop aggressively policing high crime neighborhoods. Hands up don't shoot was a lie. When a cop kills without reason, he or she should be brought to justice. No one disputes that fact.

Where are the "rampant episodes of abuse and cover-up? And who withheld the video for a year to help ensure his reelection? Rahm Emmanuel. A Democrat. Is he a racist?

A little light reading for your edification. Let me know if you need help with the bigger words.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...e-whites-than-blacks-but-minority-d/?page=all

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

LOL. You calling me a racist after calling an african american that didn't think the way you wanted him to, an Uncle Tom. Not to mention your many anti-semitic posts.

Police officers are not systematically killing blacks. Far more whites are killed by police than blacks, even though blacks commit nearly 50% of all aggravated felonies. The BLM movement is costing african americans their lives as police stop aggressively policing high crime neighborhoods. Hands up don't shoot was a lie. When a cop kills without reason, he or she should be brought to justice. No one disputes that fact.

Where are the "rampant episodes of abuse and cover-up? And who withheld the video for a year to help ensure his reelection? Rahm Emmanuel. A Democrat. Is he a racist?

Many Blacks call Carson an Uncle Tom. Shall I source it-probably only a couple hundred thousand hit on google. As to my alleged anti-semitism, hogwash. I have pointed out many times here that I have no bias against Jewish people or Israel. I have many, many Jewish friends and I'd dare say that I'm probably one of few if any here who has worn a yarmulke as a groomsman in a Jewish wedding. And I looked pretty good in it too. One of my closest friends for the last 30 years is Jewish. Criticizing the right wing whackos in this country who think Bebe is the second coming (pun intended) is not anti-semitism. Thinking that Israel should not dictate US foreign policy is not anti-semitism. It is patriotism. Some of us actually are more loyal to our own country and its leaders than we are to other countries. You know, like how bebe give you wood and Putin makes you tingle.So...:middlefinger:

 

[WVPATX]

Many Blacks call Carson an Uncle Tom. Shall I source it-probably only a couple hundred thousand hit on google. As to my alleged anti-semitism, hogwash. I have pointed out many times here that I have no bias against Jewish people or Israel. I have many, many Jewish friends and I'd dare say that I'm probably one of few if any here who has worn a yarmulke as a groomsman in a Jewish wedding. And I looked pretty good in it too. One of my closest friends for the last 30 years is Jewish. Criticizing the right wing whackos in this country who think Bebe is the second coming (pun intended) is not anti-semitism. Thinking that Israel should not dictate US foreign policy is not anti-semitism. It is patriotism. Some of us actually are more loyal to our own country and its leaders than we are to other countries. You know, like how bebe give you wood and Putin makes you tingle.So...:middlefinger:

You called him an Uncle Tom because HE DOESN'T THINK THE WAY THAT YOU THINK HE SHOULD. You put him on your plantation. That is the very definition of racist. And your hatred of Jews and Israel are well documented. I have a friend that is Jewish, yada, yada, yada.

BTW, is Rahm Emmanuel a racist for withholding the video and paying $5M in hush money?

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

You called him an Uncle Tom because HE DOESN'T THINK THE WAY THAT YOU THINK HE SHOULD. You put him on your plantation. That is the very definition of racist. And your hatred of Jews and Israel are well documented. I have a friend that is Jewish, yada, yada, yada.

BTW, is Rahm Emmanuel a racist for withholding the video and paying $5M in hush money?

If Rahm is involved the the suppression of this video, he should go to jail. As far as you other bs, laughable.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

You called him an Uncle Tom because HE DOESN'T THINK THE WAY THAT YOU THINK HE SHOULD. You put him on your plantation. That is the very definition of racist. And your hatred of Jews and Israel are well documented. I have a friend that is Jewish, yada, yada, yada.

BTW, is Rahm Emmanuel a racist for withholding the video and paying $5M in hush money?

 

[WVPATX]

A white guy calling an african american an uncle tom is like a white guy using the N word. Who are you to tell a black guy what to think? Is that person so low intellectually that they can't possibly have an opinion of their own? You own this one.

And Rahm sure as hell made the call to withhold the video. Is he a racist?

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

A white guy calling an african american an uncle tom is like a white guy using the N word. Who are you to tell a black guy what to think? Is that person so low intellectually that they can't possibly have an opinion of their own? You own this one.

And Rahm sure as hell made the call to withhold the video. Is he a racist?

An African American who regularly discounts issues beneficial to his race who adopts the position of big business, pro-1%ers, and thinks the ACA is the "worst thing since slavery" is indeed an Uncle Tom. Do you even know what Uncle Tom means? I don't think you do.

 

[WVPATX]

An African American who regularly discounts issues beneficial to his race who adopts the position of big business, pro-1%ers, and thinks the ACA is the "worst thing since slavery" is indeed an Uncle Tom. Do you even know what Uncle Tom means? I don't think you do.

Like I said, if he doesn't think the way you think he should, he's an Uncle Tom. Yes, I do know what that means. You've put him on your intellectual plantation since in your world, he is unfit to think for himself.

And the ironic part is that he's a world renowned brain surgeon and you fit glasses on people.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

Like I said, if he doesn't think the way you think he should, he's an Uncle Tom. Yes, I do know what that means. You've put him on your intellectual plantation since in your world, he is unfit to think for himself.

And the ironic part is that he's a world renowned brain surgeon and you fit glasses on people.

No, you obviously don't know what an uncle tom is. Carson doesn't give two ***** about people of his race. And he's a hypocrite to boot. He fits right in with his wingnuts buddies though. As to me, I've been in practice for over 25 years and have never once "fit glasses on people". I prescribe glasses and contacts, treat eye diseases and injuries, and perform pre-and post operative surgical care and also do some non-invasive surgeries. But even if I did "fit glasses on people", I'm sure I'd be doing better than a loser such as yourself. What exactly do you do? Why are you afraid to divulge your occupation?

 

[dave]

No, you obviously don't know what an uncle tom is. Carson doesn't give two ***** about people of his race. And he's a hypocrite to boot. He fits right in with his wingnuts buddies though. As to me, I've been in practice for over 25 years and have never once "fit glasses on people". I prescribe glasses and contacts, treat eye diseases and injuries, and perform pre-and post operative surgical care and also do some non-invasive surgeries. But even if I did "fit glasses on people", I'm sure I'd be doing better than a loser such as yourself. What exactly do you do? Why are you afraid to divulge your occupation?

How is Carson a hypocrite?

 

[WVPATX]

No, you obviously don't know what an uncle tom is. Carson doesn't give two ***** about people of his race. And he's a hypocrite to boot. He fits right in with his wingnuts buddies though. As to me, I've been in practice for over 25 years and have never once "fit glasses on people". I prescribe glasses and contacts, treat eye diseases and injuries, and perform pre-and post operative surgical care and also do some non-invasive surgeries. But even if I did "fit glasses on people", I'm sure I'd be doing better than a loser such as yourself. What exactly do you do? Why are you afraid to divulge your occupation?

Lol. You measure a person's worth based on their income? You're a racist bigot. You've been exposed. You decide what blacks should think. You know what's best for blacks. If they don't see what's best for them, then you decide for them. They can't possible be allowed to think for themselves.

Carson would have to lose roughly 100 IQ points to get down to your level.

 

[WVPATX]

How is Carson a hypocrite?

He's a hypocrite because he doesn't think the way that the white, eye glass fitter thinks he should think.

 

[dave]

No, you obviously don't know what an uncle tom is. Carson doesn't give two ***** about people of his race. And he's a hypocrite to boot. He fits right in with his wingnuts buddies though. As to me, I've been in practice for over 25 years and have never once "fit glasses on people". I prescribe glasses and contacts, treat eye diseases and injuries, and perform pre-and post operative surgical care and also do some non-invasive surgeries. But even if I did "fit glasses on people", I'm sure I'd be doing better than a loser such as yourself. What exactly do you do? Why are you afraid to divulge your occupation?

Do you know what an uncle tom is? I bet you have never read a book by Harriet Beecher Stowe.

Uncle Tom, the title character, was initially seen as a noble, long-suffering Christian slave. In more recent years, however, his name has become an epithet directed towards African-Americans who are accused of selling out to whites. Stowe intended Tom to be a "noble hero"[27] and praiseworthy person. Throughout the book, far from allowing himself to be exploited, Tom stands up for his beliefs and is grudgingly admired even by his enemies.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

How is Carson a hypocrite?

LMAO, I figured you would have to ask this question.

 

[dave]

LMAO, I figured you would have to ask this question.

I was pretty sure nobody would answer the question. You never disappoint.

 

[bornaneer]

As to me, I've been in practice for over 25 years and have never once "fit glasses on people". I prescribe glasses and contacts, treat eye diseases and injuries, and perform pre-and post operative surgical care and also do some non-invasive surgeries.

Optometrist or Ophthalmologist?

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

How is Carson a hypocrite?

I'd start with his wanting to eliminate social programs that help feed kids, give them medical care and help kids get an education. carson's family got govt assistance when he was growing up.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

Optometrist or Ophthalmologist?

Are you still following me around? After your silly display yesterday, I thought you'd leave me alone for a week or 5. :flush:

 

[MountaineerWV]

I'd start with his wanting to eliminate social programs that help feed kids, give them medical care and help kids get an education. carson's family got govt assistance when he was growing up.

No, you see, you are wrong. Carson built himself in to the successful person he is today. NOBODY else did. You are buying in to the propaganda. The assistance his family received they didn't need because Carson's hard work was all that was needed to get out of poverty. [thumbsup]

 

[dave]

I'd start with his wanting to eliminate social programs that help feed kids, give them medical care and help kids get an education. carson's family got govt assistance when he was growing up.

That would be a valid response if the bolded part were true, but it is not.

http://www.snopes.com/ben-carson-welfare-meme/

You have called the guy a hypocrite and an uncle tom based on a lie you wish to believe. He is not the problem, you are the problem.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

That would be a valid response if the bolded part were true, but it is not.

http://www.snopes.com/ben-carson-welfare-meme/

You have called the guy a hypocrite and an uncle tom based on a lie you wish to believe. He is not the problem, you are the problem.

I never claimed all that. His family, per that link, did indeed receive govt assistance. What is his position on social safety net programs now? Not a hypocrite? Right.

 

[dave]

I never claimed all that. His family, per that link, did indeed receive govt assistance. What is his position on social safety net programs now? Not a hypocrite? Right.

You should read the link again. His position on social safety net programs is not hypocritical at all. Just because you want to believe it does not make it true.

This debate is over doc. You have been exposed and destroyed. Just stop now.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

You should read the link again. His position on social safety net programs is not hypocritical at all. Just because you want to believe it does not make it true.

This debate is over doc. You have been exposed and destroyed. Just stop now.

If you say so. Carson's answer to the issue of the working poor not having health insurance is HSA. Really? people living from paycheck to paycheck at low income jobs? I'm sure that will solve the problem. All the while, he ridicules the ACA. And his answers to social programs that help with food and shelter is charity from churches. Should I go on? He's a hypocrite.

 

[dave]

If you say so. Carson's answer to the issue of the working poor not having health insurance is HSA. Really? people living from paycheck to paycheck at low income jobs? I'm sure that will solve the problem. All the while, he ridicules the ACA. And his answers to social programs that help with food and shelter is charity from churches. Should I go on? He's a hypocrite.

You can't go on. He has not been hypocritical at all. You said he wanted to end social programs that feed and educate kids. That was a lie. Your whole argument against Carson is a lie. You call him an uncle tom and a hypocrite and your proof is BS that has been proven to be not true.

Who doesn't ridicule ACA? It has been a disaster and every actual doctor will tell you that. Of course churches play a huge role in social programs, they always have and always will. Keep telling the lie doc. At the end of the day you are making up stuff about a guy because you disagree with him politically. The very same thing YOU have railed against the last 7 years regarding Obama. You get that? You are exactly the person you claim is a whacko racist. You are the hypocrite. You are exactly the person you claim to despise. Its a tough spot to be in so I am not surprised you deny it.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

You can't go on. He has not been hypocritical at all. You said he wanted to end social programs that feed and educate kids. That was a lie. Your whole argument against Carson is a lie. You call him an uncle tom and a hypocrite and your proof is BS that has been proven to be not true.

Who doesn't ridicule ACA? It has been a disaster and every actual doctor will tell you that. Of course churches play a huge role in social programs, they always have and always will. Keep telling the lie doc. At the end of the day you are making up stuff about a guy because you disagree with him politically. The very same thing YOU have railed against the last 7 years regarding Obama. You get that? You are exactly the person you claim is a whacko racist. You are the hypocrite. You are exactly the person you claim to despise. Its a tough spot to be in so I am not surprised you deny it.

Here we go. You have the audacity to call me a liar and then go on and tell me say " ACA? It has been a disaster and every actual doctor will tell you that.". Yet the American Medical Association, the American academy of Pediatrics , American Academy of Family Physicians, American Congress of OB/GYNs, and many other doctor's groups endorsed it and still support it as evidenced by their public support of the Supreme court's ruling on the ACA. Now who's lying?

 

[dave]

Here we go. You have the audacity to call me a liar and then go on and tell me say " ACA? It has been a disaster and every actual doctor will tell you that.". Yet the American Medical Association, the American academy of Pediatrics , American Academy of Family Physicians, American Congress of OB/GYNs, and many other doctor's groups endorsed it and still support it as evidenced by their public support of the Supreme court's ruling on the ACA. Now who's lying?

Of course they endorsed it. They have no choice but to endorse it. Walk into a hospital (if you have privileges somewhere) and ask the doctors, nurses, admins and anyone else who deals with it if it is a disaster and learn something if you can keep your mouth shut and ears open long enough.

But lets not change the subject. Its not like Carson is the only person railing on the ACA and he is after all, a doctor who might know, but he isn't the only person against it. My point still stands. You call him a hypocrite based on lies and your imagination. You can spin, change the subject or whatever else all you want. You are the hypocrite and you are a racist.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

"every actual doctor will tell you"

You were proven wrong once again. Btw, every means 100% just in case you didn't know. I saw a survey in one of my journals not long ago (I'm a doctor who is actually in the trenches who sees patients with every kind of insurance imaginable-including patients who have ACA plans) and a little over 50% of docs don't like the ACA. 44% support it. Now, granted, unless you're W versus. Gore where the minority wins, that means more are against it than for it. But as a provider, the ACA plans are just as good as the private pay plans companies provide their employees. Many of the ACA plans are actual BCBS plans. I mean, you can look it up. Most docs are repubs. that is a fact. And they get their news where a lot of repubs get theirs-by the mouthpiece of the GOP. But the fact is, providers do just as well accepting ACA plans as any other. period.

 

[dave]

"every actual doctor will tell you"

You were proven wrong once again. Btw, every means 100% just in case you didn't know. I saw a survey in one of my journals not long ago (I'm a doctor who is actually in the trenches who sees patients with every kind of insurance imaginable-including patients who have ACA plans) and a little over 50% of docs don't like the ACA. 44% support it. Now, granted, unless you're W versus. Gore where the minority wins, that means more are against it than for it. But as a provider, the ACA plans are just as good as the private pay plans companies provide their employees. Many of the ACA plans are actual BCBS plans. I mean, you can look it up. Most docs are repubs. that is a fact. And they get their news where a lot of repubs get theirs-by the mouthpiece of the GOP. But the fact is, providers do just as well accepting ACA plans as any other. period.

Lost debate. Changed subject. Huge surprise.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

Lost debate. Changed subject. Huge surprise.

Carson got govt aid. Carson now against govt aid. pretty simple. Btw, when you are in an argument and use statements of "fact" to make your case, expect your opponent to reveal when you don't know what you're talking about invalidating your whole argument.

 

[dave]

Carson got govt aid. Carson now against govt aid. pretty simple. Btw, when you are in an argument and use statements of "fact" to make your case, expect your opponent to reveal when you don't know what you're talking about invalidating your whole argument.

There is that lie again. Keep repeating a lie enough and maybe it will become a fact. So tell me more about "statements of fact to make your case".

You lost the debate so now you want to focus on the semantics of some unrelated statement of my opinion to "invalidate" my argument. You can't invalidate my argument because you can't prove the claims that you made about Carson being against govt. aid. That is the lie that destroyed your argument. My opinion on ACA has nothing to do with it, but nice try doc.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

There is that lie again. Keep repeating a lie enough and maybe it will become a fact. So tell me more about "statements of fact to make your case".

You lost the debate so now you want to focus on the semantics of some unrelated statement of my opinion to "invalidate" my argument. You can't invalidate my argument because you can't prove the claims that you made about Carson being against govt. aid. That is the lie that destroyed your argument. My opinion on ACA has nothing to do with it, but nice try doc.

[pfftt]

 

[dave]

no mas

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