that he wins more often than Pelphrey does. Pelphrey career winning percentage = 117-96 or .549. Stans career winning percentage = 234-129 or .645. So STFU about Pelphrey being some good coach. He has almost as many losses as Stans does and only half as many wins.</p>
I was waaay off about Kentucky.
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should show that lsu is slipping. even against a croom coached msu, lsu didn't put us away until the 4th quarter. if we can beat those bastards in red stick next year i will be one wooly mother 17er, and there's no reason why that can't happen at this point.
Look Pelphrey is not a good coach. DS and I said he looked over his head in his first year, and after running out of Stan Heath's players, his UPig squads have been horrible. Most Arkansas fans want him fired yesterday.
He had the pedigree and it looked like he would be a solid hire, but he isn't. He just isn't. Last year he went 2-15 in a down SEC. You know who never went 2-15 in the SEC, Rod freaking Barnes. Even Rod, who never recruited, didn't let his teams shoot in practice, never went 2-15, just an amazing feat. Throw in losses to Morgan St, Missouri State, East Tennessee State, South Alabama, - ALL at home nonetheless.
The guy just isn't a good coach. Look Stans should have never lost to Rider or Richmond, but Stans shortcomings doesn't make Pelphrey a good coach, in fact nothing makes Pelphrey a good coach.
You can at least point to Miles' record in your attempts to be the only person outside of Les Miles that thinks he is a good coach, but with Pelphrey there is nothing. One season with all of Stan Heath's players?
He had the pedigree and it looked like he would be a solid hire, but he isn't. He just isn't. Last year he went 2-15 in a down SEC. You know who never went 2-15 in the SEC, Rod freaking Barnes. Even Rod, who never recruited, didn't let his teams shoot in practice, never went 2-15, just an amazing feat. Throw in losses to Morgan St, Missouri State, East Tennessee State, South Alabama, - ALL at home nonetheless.
The guy just isn't a good coach. Look Stans should have never lost to Rider or Richmond, but Stans shortcomings doesn't make Pelphrey a good coach, in fact nothing makes Pelphrey a good coach.
You can at least point to Miles' record in your attempts to be the only person outside of Les Miles that thinks he is a good coach, but with Pelphrey there is nothing. One season with all of Stan Heath's players?
Really? There is a coaching gap? That's surprising since UK and MSU pay the same.fishwater99 said:
Stansbury doesnt work on zone offense before 1st game- sheep forgive
Stansbury gets called out by player for being an idiot- player's fault
Stansbury loses to awful teams- sheep forgive
Stansbury tried to pick and roll a 2-3 zone- sheep forgive
Stansbury's PG says people stand around too much in his offense- sheep look the other way
Stansbury is Jesus
Stansbury gets called out by player for being an idiot- player's fault
Stansbury loses to awful teams- sheep forgive
Stansbury tried to pick and roll a 2-3 zone- sheep forgive
Stansbury's PG says people stand around too much in his offense- sheep look the other way
Stansbury is Jesus
First of all, Cincy hasn't been relevant in college basketball in years. Including them as a tough opponent the last 4 years is pure crap. Same goes for Bama and OM - neither of these teams has been worth a damn these last 4 years.
So this is what the almighty Memphis has done against these brutal schedules:
08-09 - 2-3 against the ONLY decent teams they played all season
07-08 - I believe they had an illegal player or something this year.... 0-7
06-07 - 3-3 against the ONLY decent teams they played all season
05-06 - 3-2 against the ONLY decent teams they played all season
Take out the winless season and they have been .500 against the only decent teams they've played, going 8-8, 8-15 if you choose to count the winless season. Tons of wins, high seeds, blah blah blah - it's all a facade. This is the reason they got no respect by anybody. They never played anyone and when they did, they went a very mediocre 8-8 against those teams. I just don't find that to be too impressive.
So this is what the almighty Memphis has done against these brutal schedules:
08-09 - 2-3 against the ONLY decent teams they played all season
07-08 - I believe they had an illegal player or something this year.... 0-7
06-07 - 3-3 against the ONLY decent teams they played all season
05-06 - 3-2 against the ONLY decent teams they played all season
Take out the winless season and they have been .500 against the only decent teams they've played, going 8-8, 8-15 if you choose to count the winless season. Tons of wins, high seeds, blah blah blah - it's all a facade. This is the reason they got no respect by anybody. They never played anyone and when they did, they went a very mediocre 8-8 against those teams. I just don't find that to be too impressive.
Umm...no. I'm comparing them the last four years.paindonthurt said:
and see the bold... that's my point. What happened with Pitino YEARS ago should have no bearing on what they are now. What they are now is exactly what Memphis was with Calipari. Only difference is Memphis got questioned while Kentucky is getting annointed the kings of college hoops.
and as I've pointed out, with the schedule they played and their record against the only decent competition they played (8-8), those 1 & 2 seeds were simply undeserved. 30 wins against high school competition should not earn a 1 or 2 seed. A good comparison would be this year's OM football team. They won 8 games and are going to the Cotton Bowl, after going 3-4 against the only good competition they played all season. Does that make OM special or relevant?
You conveniently leave out their best year for your comparison purposes. Sure, the NCAA "vacated" wins but we all know that means dick.
Anyway, I think Sesh's original point is accurate.....
Memphis was returning a core roster that went to back to back Elite 8's and adding Derrick Rose and did this in their first 11 games....
11-0 with wins over: UT-Martin, Richmond, Oklahoma (NCAA team with Griffin), UCONN (NCAA team), Ark. State, Austin Peay, USC (NCAA team with Mayo), MTSU, Cincy, Georgetown (#4 at the time and NCAA team) and Arizona (#18 at the time and NCAA team)</p>
Yet, there were still questions about that team all year.</p>
Kentucky has started 9-0 with wins over: Morehead State, Miami (OH), Sam Houston State, Rider, Cleveland State, Stanford, UNC-Asheville, UNC (#11), and UCONN (#12).
Memphis also didn't almost lose any of the easier games like UK did with Miami (OH) and Stanford, yet all year people talked about whether they were good enough. Now, Calipari is using the same model at UK and winning pretty much the same games and people are already crowning them national champs.
If your argument is that tradition is helping their hype, then I completely agree; but I think Sesh's argument is very valid.</p>
Anyway, I think Sesh's original point is accurate.....
Memphis was returning a core roster that went to back to back Elite 8's and adding Derrick Rose and did this in their first 11 games....
11-0 with wins over: UT-Martin, Richmond, Oklahoma (NCAA team with Griffin), UCONN (NCAA team), Ark. State, Austin Peay, USC (NCAA team with Mayo), MTSU, Cincy, Georgetown (#4 at the time and NCAA team) and Arizona (#18 at the time and NCAA team)</p>
Yet, there were still questions about that team all year.</p>
Kentucky has started 9-0 with wins over: Morehead State, Miami (OH), Sam Houston State, Rider, Cleveland State, Stanford, UNC-Asheville, UNC (#11), and UCONN (#12).
Memphis also didn't almost lose any of the easier games like UK did with Miami (OH) and Stanford, yet all year people talked about whether they were good enough. Now, Calipari is using the same model at UK and winning pretty much the same games and people are already crowning them national champs.
If your argument is that tradition is helping their hype, then I completely agree; but I think Sesh's argument is very valid.</p>
Despite what the facts suggest, Stansbury is obviously a terrible coach, and Pelphrey is better. Why? Well, I can't think of one logical reason, but after all, that's what Coach34 said. You can't argue against him. He has a greater understanding of athletics than anyone on the planet. This is evidenced by the fact that he is right now on his way up the coaching chain. He will be a major collegiate head coach real soon. He sees things we don't. We look at wins and losses, we look at scores and titles, we look at the big picture, but what we miss Coach34 catches. We are lead by the facts to believe Stansbury is better, but beyond reason and logic there lies Coach34's opinion, which should be valued far more. The only reason you would take Stans over Pelphrey is because you didn't see Stansbury run a pick and roll against a 2-3 defense.
I really hate Memphis and make no bones about it. Their fans are f'n pathetic. They're all high and mighty when it comes to their basketball team, but suck so bad in football that most of their 'fans' cheer for UT. The only fanbase that is as arrogant as they are in basketball is Alabama football fans, except Alabama fans actually have something to be arrogant about. Memphis, not so much. And, I didn't conveniently leave out ****. They started an ineligible player for the entire 2007-08 season therefore they can take their 39 wins or whatever it was and shove it up their collective asses. Again, the reason folks are blowing all over Kentucky's nuts is because Kentucky is a historically elite program and they are now 'back'. Memphis is not and never will be. And as I've demonstrated already, they played maybe 6 good teams in an entire season for the last 4 or 5 years and have basically gone .500 against those teams, meanwhile piling up 30 win seasons like they're something special and getting a ******** 1 or 2 seed. As much as I hate Calipari, him leaving Tiger High was just priceless.
I've never seen the guy but this would surprise me. He was projected as a top 5 NBA draft pick when he declared before he was hurt. Varnado does not fit that description. I've got to think Riek can be a player this year.patdog said: