I wish Big Dan would get off of this playing all...

[Croomcream]

of the Mississippi teams crap! Hell, playing Jackson State next year is a TOTAL embarassment...Thanks Larry! If some how, someway JSU beats us...well lets just say Maine, Troy and La Tech will seem like wins in comparison! No we don't need to not play teams out of the fear we might lose...BUT WHAT IN THE HELL TO WE HAVE TO GAIN BY PLAYING THEM....0, NOTHING! As for the Hardy St. High, MS. Teacher's College (USM) Southerners (remember the YELLA Col. Reb mascot!)/Golden Eagle (They starved to DEATH!)/ Buzzards, State and Ole Miss built their glorious Football program in the 60's and 70's by playing them (they STILL talk about beating a hungover Archie Manning Reb team!)...if we had not played them they would be on the level with Delta State!!!

Also, ask USM if they want to play JSU anymore...once was ENOUGH, they almost got their a$$ beat and it would have set them back 20yrs! Alabama doesn't play UAB, USA much less Alabama A&M (look at their mascot and colors if you ever wonder why we are no longer A&M!)!!! LSU doesn't compromise their lofty position playing USL, UNO, La Tech, La Monroe and Grambling, god forbid! Hell, dem Cajuns would bring Hewey P. Long back to exorcise the gremlins from the gumbo mud over there!</p>

Danno, Ninja, go out and find some quality out of conference teams and leave these bottom feeders alone...Get on The BUS!</p>

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[Croomcream]

of the Mississippi teams crap! Hell, playing Jackson State next year is a TOTAL embarassment...Thanks Larry! If some how, someway JSU beats us...well lets just say Maine, Troy and La Tech will seem like wins in comparison! No we don't need to not play teams out of the fear we might lose...BUT WHAT IN THE HELL TO WE HAVE TO GAIN BY PLAYING THEM....0, NOTHING! As for the Hardy St. High, MS. Teacher's College (USM) Southerners (remember the YELLA Col. Reb mascot!)/Golden Eagle (They starved to DEATH!)/ Buzzards, State and Ole Miss built their glorious Football program in the 60's and 70's by playing them (they STILL talk about beating a hungover Archie Manning Reb team!)...if we had not played them they would be on the level with Delta State!!!

Also, ask USM if they want to play JSU anymore...once was ENOUGH, they almost got their a$$ beat and it would have set them back 20yrs! Alabama doesn't play UAB, USA much less Alabama A&M (look at their mascot and colors if you ever wonder why we are no longer A&M!)!!! LSU doesn't compromise their lofty position playing USL, UNO, La Tech, La Monroe and Grambling, god forbid! Hell, dem Cajuns would bring Hewey P. Long back to exorcise the gremlins from the gumbo mud over there!</p>

Danno, Ninja, go out and find some quality out of conference teams and leave these bottom feeders alone...Get on The BUS!</p>

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[Coach34]

we are going to put 40 on JSU...its an easy win and one we need to get off on the right foot...and Mullen can be PC and say we want to play the Nasty Bunch while Byrne laughs and in no way considers scheduling them ....its all about appearances my friend

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Most big schools around the country play their smaller in state schools and 1 AA schools. I don't see the big deal.

 

[Indndawg]

and then move on to bigger fish

 

[Croomcream]

like examples given, also Georgia, TN, Ark, Florida. Coach you may be right!

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

playing Jackson State next year is a TOTAL embarassment

Being forced to play @ LA Tech is a total embarrassment.

The MSU fanbase takes all kind of abuse from foolish schedulers, bad players, bad coaches, inter-league ridicule etc. etc.

But let somebody schedule a football game with a program in the state of Mississippi not Ole Miss, then suddenly the whole MSU fanbase feels obligated to become an unhinged mob of 1960's war protesters.

 

[El Diablo Blanco]

we ought to play Alcorn next year and Valley the next. Put those 3 SWAC schools on a rotating basis. Play 3 other non BCS schools <span style="font-weight: bold;">at home.</span> That's should be 4 wins a year. All you would need is 2 SEC wins and you are bowling.

If a coach can't consistantly go bowling with that schedule, he is a moron.

 

[Croomcream]

but WHY would we even consider boosting Hattiesburg's economy and help pay for more Fedora billboards claiming to be the "flag ship" university...Well Mr. Fedora "HOW LONG HAS SOUTHERN BEEN A UNIVERSITY?" Greasy Dumba$$! USmmmmmm, take you 20,000 to 30,000 total average attendance and play anybody, anywhere,anytime and shove it.

 

[Bob Sacamano.sixpack]

The ninja set up the game with JSU. I think it's a good idea. Get your facts straight.

 

[Croomcream]

Hell let's schedule Alabama A&M and it will look like a spring game! Valley, Alcorn, and JSU will definitely kill our band BUT there's always a chance we could lose (see above) besides Division 1AA wins do not count or do not count as much towards bowl eligibility.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

but WHY would we even consider boosting Hattiesburg's economy and help pay for more Fedora billboards claiming to be the "flag ship" university...Well Mr. Fedora "HOW LONG HAS SOUTHERN BEEN A UNIVERSITY?" Greasy Dumba$$! USmmmmmm, take you 20,000 to 30,000 total average attendance and play anybody, anywhere,anytime and shove it.

If we play USM, it's not about what we do for them.

It's what they will do for us. (Or if you want to get sappy, what it will do for the state of Mississippi).

This messageboard has had countless arguments about the various gains MSU can make by playing USM.

But, in the end, the "nothing to gain" crowd always wins the argument.

Don't worry: After Mullen hears from aggressively opinionated fans like you who think playing USM is about the worse thing that could ever happen to Miss. State, Mullen will backtrack on playing USM.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

It doesnt matter if you lose to Maine or JSU, if you lose to a 1AA its bad but at the same time the chances of it happening are slim.

 

[El Diablo Blanco]

If Croom were still coaching I'd make us a 3 pt fav. over JSU.
Mullen may not be the savior, but I guarantee you he is better than Croom.
Croom has made people scared.
It's better now. I promise.

 

[muddawgs33]

LSU doesn't compromise their lofty position playing USL, UNO, La Tech, La Monroe and Grambling, god forbid! Hell, dem Cajuns would bring Hewey P. Long back to exorcise the gremlins from the gumbo mud over there!

Lsu has played Tulane the last 2 years, which is equal to playing La. Tech or Msu playing Usm.

As for Byrne scheduling Jsu, I can't fault Byrne for trying to get the most out of us playing a D1AA game. Hell, most D1AA games we draw what a little over 30,000. With Msu playing Jsu, I imagine we will have one of our largest crowds for a D1AA game. I also think it's smart that we are playing our D1AA opponent the 1st game of the season. Whether intentional or not, this will definitely maximize attendance for a D1AA game. Say what you want, but if we lose to Jsu, then we got bigger problems than scheduling.

 

[patdog]

LSU doesn't compromise their lofty position playing USL, UNO, La Tech, La Monroe and Grambling, god forbid! Hell, dem Cajuns would bring Hewey P. Long back to exorcise the gremlins from the gumbo mud over there!

Lsu has played Tulane the last 2 years, which is equal to playing La. Tech or Msu playing Usm.

And further, LSU has every one of those schools either on a past or future football schedule, except for UNO which doesn't field a football team. They signed contracts to play every I-A and I-AA school in Louisiana over about a 10-year period a few years ago.

 

[drunkernhelldawg]

The problem was, they were getting a lot more out of the game than us. We were right to drop the game.

I'd like to play them every three years or so, and I'd like the game to be the first or second game of the season. It is true that the young people in South Mississippi are not widely aware of Starkville's existence. They all know about USM.

 

[patdog]

3 games over a 7-year period. Games in Starkville in Years 1 and 7, game in Hattiesburg in Year 4. For all games, the visiting team gets 10,000 tickets to sell plus $200,000. This gives USM the big payday they say they need to do a 2-for-1 or a road buyout game without costing us much cash.</p>

 

[lannsd]

besides Division 1AA wins do not count or do not count as much towards bowl eligibility.

Hey guess what, you are wrong again. What a surprise. One Div IAA win can count towards bowl eligibility every year. It might help your argument if you didn't make things up. Just a thought.

 

[99jc]

<div style="margin-left: 80px;"> If we can't beat JSU ALCORN and SOUTHERN an a regular basis mabey we should get the HELL outta the SEC.
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[Ol Blue.sixpack]

3 games over a 7-year period. Games in Starkville in Years 1 and 7, game in Hattiesburg in Year 4. For all games, the visiting team gets 10,000 tickets to sell plus $200,000. This gives USM the big payday they say they need to do a 2-for-1 or a road buyout game without costing us much cash.</p>

$200,000 and 10K tickets? Seriously? Why don't you throw in and you can only play your scout team, too?

 

[MadBarrister]

you guys need to your ninja to tell the coach to worry about beating a team or two already on the schedule.

 

[OEMDawg]

But sadly they won't be playing the Bulldogs at their massive 30k stadium like sellout Lar had us do.

 

[PosterFormerlyKnownAsRFAA]

Georgia played Georgia Southern this year. They also played them in 2004.
Tennessee recently played Middle Tennessee.
Florida has played Central Florida and Florida A&M recently.

But, you were right about Arkansas!

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

These are in the last 4 years:

Florida
- FAU
- UCF

UGA
- GA Southern

LSU
- Tulane
- @ Tulane
- UL Laff
- Tulane

UT
- @ Memphis
- @ Memphis
- Memphis
* I know they play Memphis next year as well.

Arkansas had none. I threw in LSU as a good example.

 

[JimboDawgo]

Also, ask USM if they want to play JSU anymore...once was ENOUGH, <span style="font-weight: bold;">they almost got their a$$ beat</span> and it would have set them back 20yrs! Alabama doesn't play UAB, USA much less Alabama A&M (look at their mascot and colors if you ever wonder why we are no longer A&M!)!!! LSU doesn't compromise their lofty position playing USL, UNO, La Tech, La Monroe and Grambling, god forbid! Hell, dem Cajuns would bring <span style="font-weight: bold;">Hewey P. Long</span> back to exorcise the gremlins from the gumbo mud over there!</p>

Of all the errors in your post, I'm surprised no one has called you on these two yet, well, maybe not, there are alot of errors.

1. USM won 55-7, yeah, I guess that is kinda close to an *** whoopin.
2. Howie Long played for Villanova. I believe you're thinking of Terry Bradshaw who played for La Tech.
(edited to say wikipedia just informed me there was a Huey Long who was Gov of Louisiana in 1924-1932, and a US Senator thru 1935 Sorry if that's who you were talking about.)

From whats been said here in the past, southern apparently wants quite a bit of cash for us to play them, or ticket sales, something like that. I'm willing to bet if there price is way out of line with other non conference schools we don't have to worry about them getting scheduled. I really don't care either way if we play them, yeah it'll suck if we lose. But, it will also suck if we lose to Houston, or Tulane, oh, wait. Point is, it doesn't really matter who your non conference losses are to, we shouldn't lose any non BCS non conference games.

 

[Todd4State]

I'm going to reply to several:

First of all Coach- if we only score 40, I'll be disappointed. We need to score at least 50 on those clowns.

I still don't like playing Jackson State. We're basically enabling an in-state competitor, and there's absolutely no reason to do that. We can find a I-AA team to replace them like Samford, or heck just about any of them would be happy to play us. Are we really worried about attendance for a I-AA game in a year that we have both Alabama and the Egg Bowl at home? Not to mention a new coaching staff? Besides, if I remember correctly we had a near sellout for SELU last year and that was after we lost to La Tech.

Playing Jackson State is a mistake. All it does is fuel the fire for the USM people that say that we're "scared" to play them, and you say, why should we care about that? Well, because now it looks like Mullen is pushing for it to happen, and I wouldn't be shocked if it does happen in the next 10 years. And playing Jackson State DOES make us look a little hypocritical in this case. Playing USM doesn't help us at all.

 

[patdog]

What does the scout team have to do with anything?</p>

 

[patdog]

I can promise you that no matter how much we help them, they won't steal the first recruit from us or hurt us in any way. And the plus for us is that they will bring 10,000-15,000 fans to the game (at $40 per ticket plus concessions), rather than the 250-500 fans most other I-AA teams would bring. I think we need to play JSU, Alcorn or MVSU every other year and play an out of state I-AA team every other year.

 

[ranier wolfcastle3]

as an Ole Miss fan, I wish we had done it, and have been hoping for years that we would. Almost every team plays at least one "tune up" type of game, particularly if that program is in a rebuilding stage such. You don't want an entire schedule full of them, but you need one to build depth, rest starters, work on offense and defense, ect. Why not play one that is A) Local, and might actually sell some visitor tickets B) maximizes exposure- I have no idea who Ole Miss or USM play that weekend, but whoever it is, I would bet MSU gets the vast majority of media coverage in the state and C) gives the university a lot of positive publicity for giving a largely underfunded and african american school a big payday. Like I said, as much as I hate to say it, it's a brilliant move. Kudos to the Ninja.

 

[Croomcream]

JSU, USM, Alcorn, Valley or Delta State...just like Troy, the Maine and LaTech it ruins your whole year and effects recruiting IF YOU LOSE! YES, we should kick the crap outta either one of those schools on our WORST day but when you play them after an LSU and before Alabama for example its hard to get your team motivated to play a patsy! These teams are looking to make a name for themselves like Southern did in the 80's while Reggie Collier and Big Nasty was whippin' our a$$. The USM/JSU score was NOT 55/7, it was much closer...I'll check that and get back to you!

Howie Long, lol! Huey P. "Kingfish" Long former Governor!!!!</p>

 

[Croomcream]

know Tulane and Georgia Tech were members of the SEC at one time

 

[HubCtyDawg]

and I guess its something they could consider. But they're getting a home and home deal over a 3 or 4 year period with Kansas St, Virginia, GT. If Im not mistaken all those will start in the next few years. Those aren't bad institutions, and for us to come in behind that and offer a 3 for 1 deal is silly. I dont see why we cant play them home and home every year...and in my opinion there is not a real excuse why we cant.

 

[ranier wolfcastle3]

"AGAIN, there is absolutely nothing to gain by playing JSU, USM, Alcorn, Valley or Delta State..."

Aside from the revenues of an extra home game (a BCS or even mid major conference opponent is going to require a return visit to their home field)
Aside from the EXTREMELY likely event that a team gets to work on fundamentals, hopefully play some back-ups, rest starters, not get as beat up, ect.
Aside from possibly building some confidence on a team that probably doesn't have a lot of it (look what the La- Monroe game did for the rebs)

"just like Troy, the Maine and LaTech it ruins your whole year and effects recruiting IF YOU LOSE!"

Yeah, that LaTech game really seems to have killed your class this year. Oh wait- it's the best class you've had in about a decade- nevermind.

"we should kick the crap outta either one of those schools on our WORST day but when you play them after an LSU and before Alabama for example its hard to get your team motivated to play a patsy!"

So, you'd rather schedule somebody tough instead? You are actually trying to argue that it would be better to face someone tough BEFORE you play Alabama, or some top team AFTER LSU, because "motivation" may be a problem? What about the motivational issues of playing 12 straight tough teams (8 SEC, 4 Nonconfernce) under the Croomcream plan. I guess it is always better to have those moral losses on there than those pesky "W's".

Croomcream, and I mean this as sincerely as anything I have ever said in my life, I hope you become A.D. of MSU one day. I will donate heavily to your campaign.

 

[JimboDawgo]

http://sports.espn.go.com...teamId=2572&year=2002

And, I already edited to say my bad on the Howie Long deal. With all the other mistakes you've got in that post, I just assumed you mixed up one time football players who are now announcers. To me it fit better than bringing up a Governor whose been dead for 74 years.

As it's been said here multiple times, if we lose ANY non BCS non Conference game we've got bigger problems than scheduling.

One more thing, you are aloud to say ***.

 

[bbqbully]

Huey Long ran every aspect of the LSU football team from the governor's office, from hiring and firing coaches, calling plays, telling the coaches which players to use, even composing the fight song. He even led the marching band onto the field.

 

[JimboDawgo]

I thought about checking to see if there was a Hewey P. Long (sic) before I posted, but i figured nah, I know what I'm talking about. Sort of like that jackass is doing with "No, USM didn't beat JSU 55-7 it was much closer" I guess I should brush up on my 1920s Louisiana History.

 

[Croomcream]

the first meeting was much closer! I don't follow the mustard boys or the Sonic Boom team. Peace brother, we have the same goal...WIN!!! I just get sick of these US'em fans running their yap and now that greasy *** coach of theirs! Big Dan is helping make their case imho.

 

[Croomcream]

Comegy's (sp) teams are a little tougher!

 

[Todd4State]

I can promise you that no matter how much we help them, they won't steal the first recruit from us or hurt us in any way. And the plus for us is that they
will bring 10,000-15,000 fans to the game (at $40 per ticket plus concessions), rather than the 250-500 fans most other I-AA teams would bring. I think we
need to play JSU, Alcorn or MVSU every other year and play an out of state I-AA team every other year.

Does Wal-Mart help out the Mom and Pop stores that pose no threat to them?

I think we could draw about as good a crowd with some creative marketing, like give the unused tickets to area schools and their families. Again that shouldn't be an issue this year with the people we play and a new coaching staff.

Do you see Ole Miss, USM, or Jackson State looking to help us out? No.