I'd like an answer RE: Macron

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You losers that have every ounce of your identities and energy tied up into political tribalism need to go touch some 17ing grass.. It's almost football season and we have some weeks of pool season left, you miserable sons of bitches. Go be happy. And if you don't want to be happy, go take your conspiracy theories and air your grievances on the twitters with the other miserable pricks. Our football team should be enough opportunity to ***** now that spring practice is here.
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Why does she need to "prove" anything to some random American nut pundit who isn't going to care anyway?

Just think about this logically - it is likely that there was a secret same-sex marriage and gender transition 50 years ago in France, 40 years before any of that was legal there, birth certificates and marriage licenses falsified, adoptions passed off as natural births, etc., and then on top of that the beneficiary of that conspiracy later became a prominent political figure, but nobody ever figured it out until random Candace Owens did? Doesn't that just seem ... far fetched?

Just take out the politics and ask if it seems likely, or if there's just too many moving parts.
Well if she is gonna sue people over it she’s gonna a have to show proof
 

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I agree with you to a point that we can sometimes be powerless against the tide. It's tiring, and wears you down. Conversely, going along with the tide will get you drowned eventually.

However, the machine telling me to turn my brain off and just accept the new rules is where intelligent independence diverge. Simply going along with insanity to get along is not in my DNA. Nor should it be in yours.
Fair enough. I view it a little differently in that the insanity is still insanity but the hype machine is designed to get us to behave in certain ways by asking us to believe that it's mainstream and we need to draw lines in the sand that even apply to our goodness or eternal futures. There's only so much I can do as one man and dwell on before it drives me crazy. So I choose to let the happenings of my local community drive my true feelings and actions. The national stuff I have to always take with a grain of salt. I still remember back in 2011 when the river got over 48 feet in Memphis. That impacted low lying areas but the media circus was perched up on the bluffs acting as if the city was going to flood imminently. I always suspected the national news desks were a lot of hype but that did it in for me. They are there for profit. They abandoned fair takes and balance many moons ago for more dollars.
 
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That's lazy. You know that male -> female transgender people don't have the anatomy to have children. They don't have it in 2025 and they certainly didn't have it in 1975. (I mean, I assume you know that.) Maybe that will change one day, but I'm talking about current realities.

Thus, a person (regardless of whether the person identifies as a woman or something else) who has given birth is "biologically female," end of discussion. Right?
I think his point is that would make Mrs macron a woman.

There are only 2 sexes. Woman and man. This cis is unnecessary.
 

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I can't tell what you're trying to say. Are you implying that boys participating in girl's sports is something the conservative media made up and is not really happening ? And just for the record where do you personally stand on the subject ?
Answered in other response. It's not made up at all. It's sensationalized to make it sound like it's an everyday thing for many people so that you click the bait for their profit. Quite a different take.

Boys leagues are boys leagues. Girls leagues are girls leagues. Coed leagues are coed leagues.
 

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"There’s been more green dildos thrown on the courts of WNBA games than illegals crossing the border in the past 3 months."


With Caitlin having to deal with jealous black lesbian haters and dildos hitting the court I might have to start watching the WNBA.
 
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Related note - I have noticed multiple women in power or adjacent power have recently been accused of being men.
Why?
- Michelle Obama
- Kamala Harris
- Brigitte Macron
- Queen Camilla
- NZ PM Jacinda Arderen

It's so odd.
Never seen anyone accuse Harris of being a dude.

Big Mike on the other hand.....
 

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But to your point, it's not a worry for us until it should be. I doubt it'll ever be a real world impact on us just like the vast vast majority. If it is, we would find a different league. And to those that are unfairly impacted they absolutely have a legitimate gripe. Leagues are leagues and need objective rules and not qualifications based on feelings. It's a really dumb hill for the left to die on. I'm not sure how many of them really support it to be honest. The ones I know in real life think it's insane and feel like the tail is wagging the dog - seems to be a theme on both sides these days.
This is certainly smart. Preparation ahead of time is certainly a terrible idea.
 

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As you can directly see, it's age-restricted, which means that you can't view it while logged out.


Anyway, I watched the first 10 minutes. I will concede that it was a little more calmly organized than I was expecting. However, I just don't really buy her central premise which was this:
"I have been alleging that Brigette Macron is a man for a while now, and the Macrons have sent me a cease and desist letter. So I asked them to fill out a 21-question questionnaire to get to the bottom of it, and they won't do it! Doesn't this prove that I'm right and she really is a man after all?"

I think it's more likely that they just don't want to dignify it with a response. Again, I'm just going to need an explanation of why anyone would participate in this conspiracy for 50 years and no one ever blew the whistle. It just seems like she started from a conclusion and worked back to find the evidence, rather than taking the evidence that's already out there and coming to a conclusion from that.

Later, she says that Trump has some kind of dirt on Macron about his sex life, and that it must be that his wife is actually transgender, but I think that's a stretch when it could just be a regular affair - I read some stat one time that every single president of France since WWII has had a sex scandal, and most of the French public just doesn't really care. It just seems like a stretch.

Finally she goes into a long aside about the Olympic opening ceremony last year and how Satanic it was, and I'm not sure what that has to do with anything - I guess she's trying to draw a connection of "France held a Satanic ceremony last year, therefore the Macrons love Satan, which connects them to the LGBT community." Again just seems like an unrelated stretch. Even if she somehow scooped everyone and is somehow right about Macron's gender identity, I'm not seeing a connection here.

This is the response I expected. Glad you didn't waste more than 10 minutes so you could get back to typing here.
 

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This is certainly smart. Preparation ahead of time is certainly a terrible idea.
How do you prepare for boys potentially playing in girls leagues when it doesn't even happen in your community? Lose sleep over an imaginary 14 year old boy in a whig playing basketball against my daughter, get big mad about it online and tell everyone they are an idiot for not focusing their energies on prepping for things that very likely never going to happen. There are far far better things to prep and plan for.
 

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Fair enough. I view it a little differently in that the insanity is still insanity but the hype machine is designed to get us to behave in certain ways by asking us to believe that it's mainstream and we need to draw lines in the sand that even apply to our goodness or eternal futures. There's only so much I can do as one man and dwell on before it drives me crazy. So I choose to let the happenings of my local community drive my true feelings and actions. The national stuff I have to always take with a grain of salt. I still remember back in 2011 when the river got over 48 feet in Memphis. That impacted low lying areas but the media circus was perched up on the bluffs acting as if the city was going to flood imminently. I always suspected the national news desks were a lot of hype but that did it in for me. They are there for profit. They abandoned fair takes and balance many moons ago for more dollars.
I can sympathize with this perspective.

Now imagine the silent majority standing on that same bluff, seeing what's happening, watching that same media telling us that women and men are the same and if you say anything to the contrary, you're a bigot, nazi, etc.

You're calling out the machine for it's abysmal coverage of one flood incident. Good, you should. Saying nothing is implicit approval. The more disrespect you swallow, the more you'll be fed.
 
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How do you prepare for boys potentially playing in girls leagues when it doesn't even happen in your community? Lose sleep over an imaginary 14 year old boy in a whig playing basketball against my daughter, get big mad about it online and tell everyone they are an idiot for not focusing their energies on prepping for things that very likely never going to happen. There are far far better things to prep and plan for.
You call out bull $h1t and vote for people who will stop it.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
 

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This is the response I expected. Glad you didn't waste more than 10 minutes so you could get back to typing here.
Well ... I went out of my way to watch your video with an open mind and gave an honest assessment of it, which is what you asked me to do, and this is your response. So much for olive branches, looking for "common ground," etc.
 

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Oh, to get back on subject for SheMateMe, I do not think she is a man.

I think she's simply being labled a man for slapping her effeminate husband like the biiitch he is.
 
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You call out bull $h1t and vote for people who will stop it.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
Voting doesn't prevent people from trying to be an idiot. Our sports leagues are divided by sexes. If someone wants to challenge that, you deal with it when you get there. Voting for someone that beats their chest stating they support the rules that are already in place simply appeals more to your emotions than actually doing anything that makes your life any different or safer. But whatever makes you feel special and important, darling.
 
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How do you prepare for boys potentially playing in girls leagues when it doesn't even happen in your community? Lose sleep over an imaginary 14 year old boy in a whig playing basketball against my daughter, get big mad about it online and tell everyone they are an idiot for not focusing their energies on prepping for things that very likely never going to happen. There are far far better things to prep and plan for.
I mean we don’t matter at all about how Mississippi state will play on the field but we sure will lose our minds over it. Sounds like we just need to shut down the message board getting upset over something so trivial as football.
 
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Classic SPS. Me getting my lil' pansies in a wad over my locked thread turns into 3 pages of everything under the sun.

I'm still in Candace's bunny hole. She definitely goes down some winding roads. If half of what she thinks is true is true, the people behind it would definitely act exactly like they're acting, so there's that.

I don't know what's true, but at the very least I strongly suspect Brigitte did indeed start as a dude. If some kinda definitive proof shows differently, I'll happily acknowledge it. I'd rather the world be less 17' d than more.
 
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I can sympathize with this perspective.

Now imagine the silent majority standing on that same bluff, seeing what's happening, watching that same media telling us that women and men are the same and if you say anything to the contrary, you're a bigot, nazi, etc.

You're calling out the machine for it's abysmal coverage of one flood incident. Good, you should. Saying nothing is implicit approval. The more disrespect you swallow, the more you'll be fed.
I think the silent majority crosses a large swath of political ideology (that likely angrees on more than they like to admit bc we are so programmed to hate each other based on who we vote for) and we are all waiting for the day that the polar extremes quit directing traffic and we resume something more sane in the middle 1/3 - but it never happens.

I don't know what the solution is. Turn off the tv or yell at the people that produce the content? At a point in time I would say voting has the biggest influence but my choices seem to cater to the polar extremes and not the silent majority. What do you do? I'm not a violent person so that's out...
 

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Well ... I went out of my way to watch your video with an open mind and gave an honest assessment of it, which is what you asked me to do, and this is your response. So much for olive branches, looking for "common ground," et

If I thought you gave it an actual open minded viewing, I'd throw olive branches all over you. I've got enough experience on here with you to know that wasn't happening. Even your summary of what you watched is dripping with your biases.

Your mind was never open to any kind of change. That was obvious from the start.

Look, I'm not at all sure she's right, but I will at least give it consideration considering the things presented.
 

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I think the silent majority crosses a large swath of political ideology (that likely angrees on more than they like to admit bc we are so programmed to hate each other based on who we vote for) and we are all waiting for the day that the polar extremes quit directing traffic and we resume something more sane in the middle 1/3 - but it never happens.

I don't know what the solution is. Turn off the tv or yell at the people that produce the content? At a point in time I would say voting has the biggest influence but my choices seem to cater to the polar extremes and not the silent majority. What do you do? I'm not a violent person so that's out...
In this system, say what you think, and-
If the politicians aren't listening
Vote with your dollar.
 

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I think the silent majority crosses a large swath of political ideology (that likely angrees on more than they like to admit bc we are so programmed to hate each other based on who we vote for) and we are all waiting for the day that the polar extremes quit directing traffic and we resume something more sane in the middle 1/3 - but it never happens.
I don’t disagree with this but men in women’s sports or women’s bathrooms isn’t the silent majority on the right. A large number of the right are vocal about that.

just think if a large number on the left were vocal about it. We’d shut that problem down before it gets bigger.

and it is already a problem. Maybe it’s not in your neighborhood yet.

lot of neighborhoods where racism doesn’t exist. Does that mean we should ignore racism simply because it’s not my problem yet?
 
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How do you prepare for boys potentially playing in girls leagues when it doesn't even happen in your community? Lose sleep over an imaginary 14 year old boy in a whig playing basketball against my daughter, get big mad about it online and tell everyone they are an idiot for not focusing their energies on prepping for things that very likely never going to happen. There are far far better things to prep and plan for.
I mean you could go ahead and create clear cut rules to prevent it.

I don’t have many murders in the neighborhoods I live in. Maybe we should legalize it there and see if we can get some!
 
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How can you have no opinion on whether someone who has given birth to 3 children has been a woman her whole life, or was actually born male and later transitioned into female? Do you think there's some ambiguity there?
No ****** no baby. That's the fact!
 

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and it is already a problem. Maybe it’s not in your neighborhood yet.

lot of neighborhoods where racism doesn’t exist. Does that mean we should ignore racism simply because it’s not my problem yet?
Give me an example of how I don't ignore racism if it doesn't exist in my neighborhood. I can say "racism is bad" and not be racist myself. But if I wore that badge you'd just call me a virtue signaler
I mean you could go ahead and create clear cut rules to prevent it.

I don’t have many murders in the neighborhoods I live in. Maybe we should legalize it there and see if we can get some!
The rules are already there. "This league is for girls". "Murder gets you X years to life". "Guns aren't allowed here". And on. It doesn't prevent anyone from being an *** hole and breaking the rules. It's up to you to determine what risk is going to keep you up at night. I proactively try not to put myself in positions where I could get robbed. That's a worry. Do I worry about boys in girls sports leagues? Nope. You're going to have to give me some numbers to prove it's a thing coming to a sports league near me. Otherwise my position it's sensationalized crap to get the loud vocal extremes in society to yell at each other.

Don't get me wrong, I do feel badly for anyone negatively impacted. If a girl only had 1 girls only league to choose from and they were allowing boys in it, that's an issue for fairness and safety and a failure of local league leadership. That's not debatable to me. My beef is why this is such a subject of the times for the parties at the national level when we continue to drive up deficits, continue forever wars (direct and indirect), have high cost of living, increased taxes via tariffs, inflation, high medical costs, immigration system failures and chaos, etc. These are the national level debates that should differentiate political parties. It's almost like they are allowing these side issues dominate discourse so we don't hold any of them accountable for the things that actually do impact everyone.
 

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Give me an example of how I don't ignore racism if it doesn't exist in my neighborhood. I can say "racism is bad" and not be racist myself. But if I wore that badge you'd just call me a virtue signaler
But you do say racism is bad. And you should. That doesn’t mean everything is racist though.

I think racism is bad. I don’t think the cops are systematically racist against black people bc stats don’t show that. One is true the other is virtue signaling. See the difference?

No imagine if all the people who say racism is bad also said dudes playing in women’s sports or using Womens bathrooms was bad what might happen?
 

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But you do say racism is bad. And you should. That doesn’t mean everything is racist though.

I think racism is bad. I don’t think the cops are systematically racist against black people bc stats don’t show that. One is true the other is virtue signaling. See the difference?

No imagine if all the people who say racism is bad also said dudes playing in women’s sports or using Womens bathrooms was bad what might happen?
I think that both of these are "bad". In a world of limited resources and time, racism would be far higher on the list of issues to be worried about than gender in sports. I think the masses would probably do the same. I think your issue with me and a lot of people is not that I don't consider it an issue, but that I don't consider it as important/impactful/pervasive of an issue as you do and much much less important on society's hierarchy of needs.

I'm willing to bump it up the list. Just give me some good numbers for context. How often is the is happening? Is it isolated to certain districts? Are there reasonable alternatives where one league allows it? I know at the college level there's something like less than 10 athletes that identify as trans and I'm still not sure that they are playing on teams that don't line up with their sex. High school level? Youth? Make me objectively call this a bigger issue than I'm saying it is.
 

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A subset of the conservative movement believes some of the most bizarre things (chemtrails, massive coverup of pedophilia, birtherism, Michelle O has a penis, Bill and Hillary had more kills than Whitey Bulger, vaccines killed tons of people and cause autism....) and has incredibly popular, well-paid grifters and advocates of these conspiracies theories who may or may not believe some of this stuff but they don't mind profiting off of it. The fever needs to break because it's nearly impossible to talk to someone who believes something you think is completely absurd. Can we ditch this stuff to deal with lefties and wokies instead? This stuff is gonna lead to mental illness. Tucker and Candace were once reasonable and sane.
I wish I could like this twice. Conservative used to mean "common sense" (at least to me). Now MAGA world has turned it on its head, and it's largely just wacko conspiracy theories and grifters.
 
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Did he ever get his answer? I wasn’t sure if it was solved in the 150 post thread that I’m sure opened a lot of eyes made people objectively view others perspectives. I bet we did a lot of good.
 
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