I'd rather lay a regional egg like we did over folding at the end like Vandy.
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now that all the dust has settled, only 1 of the 5 SEC teams that had to play on the road advanced to the Supers. Meanwhile all 3 SEC teams that hosted their own regional advanced.
I know we won at FSU and at GA Tech in the last few years, but if we want to win regionals on any kind of a consistent basis, we've got to start hosting them. I think we're on the verge of getting to that point in our program. But that's definitely the next step for us. 10 of the 16 teams in the supers hosted their regionals as the #1 seed this year. 10 of the 16 hosts also advanced last year.
I'm going to do a little research and start a new thread on the statistical importance of hosting and the likelihood of advancement...
Just using the data from this year, 62.5% of hosts advance, while 18.75% of 2-seeds advance, 12.5% of 3-seeds, and 6.25% of 4-seeds. I'm betting historically it skews even more toward the 1's.
Nevermind the fact that we'd have a greater homefield advantage than most, especially seeing how it's been a decade next year since we hosted a regional.
Just using the data from this year, 62.5% of hosts advance, while 18.75% of 2-seeds advance, 12.5% of 3-seeds, and 6.25% of 4-seeds. I'm betting historically it skews even more toward the 1's.
Nevermind the fact that we'd have a greater homefield advantage than most, especially seeing how it's been a decade next year since we hosted a regional.
And three of the best teams in the country. I think that has more to do with it than the fact that they were hosting.
If you have one of the 16 best teams in the country, you will host. We need to get to the point where we have one of the 16 best teams in the country on a semi-regular basis. That's the only way we're going to win any regionals other than an occasionaly every 6 years or so. We haven't hosted a regional since 2003. We have only won 2 regionals since 2001.
there was only a 3 game difference in the SEC standings between first place and seventh place (19 wins to 16 wins). There is much more to the difference of advancing than just they were the best SEC teams. Home field advantage is huge. MSU this season was 28-8 at home and 5-12 on the road. We were also 7-4 at neutral sites but that includes the run in Hoover (5-1) which is a pitcher's park very much like Dudy Noble. So for those keeping score at home that's the exact same players winning at a 78% clip at home while only winning at a 29% clip in true road games. And usually when you don't host IF you want to win the regional you have a high likelihood of having to go through the home team to do it. Heck, our team is built specifically to play in a bigger ballpark like Dudy Noble so for us either getting to play at home or not is a huge factor.
...is that we've designed our team around that park and we need some of the other team's fly balls to die on the warning track while we're bunting and squeezing out a few runs. We obviously played well at Hoover and I think that was a big factor. Then we get down to the softball field in Tallahassee and give up some long balls while our guys get greedy and swing for the fences and hit pop ups instead of doing what we do.
I think we're on the same page.
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</div><div>I believe getting back to being one of the best 16 teams in the country is more important than getting back to hosting. They go hand in hand so the argument is moot, but the post I replied to seemed to imply that the SEC teams that hosted advanced because they hosted. I think they advanced because they were three of the best teams in the country and would have advanced even if their regionals were played elsewhere.</div>
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</div><div>I believe getting back to being one of the best 16 teams in the country is more important than getting back to hosting. They go hand in hand so the argument is moot, but the post I replied to seemed to imply that the SEC teams that hosted advanced because they hosted. I think they advanced because they were three of the best teams in the country and would have advanced even if their regionals were played elsewhere.</div>
Being a #1 seed doesn't automatically mean you're the host.engie said:
#2 seeds have hosted many times. Not so much lately, but there were quite a few back in the early days of the current format, 1999-2002 especially. Off the top of my head, I recall these non-#1 host sites (not necessarily exhaustive or accurate):
1999: Auburn, Notre Dame, LSU, Rice
2000: LA-Lafayette, Oklahoma, Cal St. Fullerton, Minnesota
2001: Ohio St., Clemson, South Carolina, Tennessee
2002: Notre Dame, Arizona St.
2003: Southern Miss
2004: Oklahoma, Cal St. Fullerton
2005: Arizona St.
2006: Arkansas
2007: -none-
2008: Michigan
2009: -none-
2010: UConn
2011: -none-
2012: -none-
maybe a little caveat. If you lose your first game on the road in a regional you have virtually no chance at making it to a super. If your a host and lose the first one you still have a chance...on the road no way.
Several SEC and major conference schools hosted as #2 seeds in the early years. In the last 6 years the only #2s to host were 2 northern schools. I think the days of an SEC school hosting as a #2 are over. I think now, the only way that would happen would be if the #1 seed just didn't put in a bid to host or couldn't use an adequate facility. </p>
...if a super regional appearance is at stake, you've got to win that Monday game. Period.
If you are saying you would rather be eliminated by Samford early than get to Monday vs. FSU...you are full of crap.
One thing Vandy & Ole Miss does have on MSU is they actually showed up to their regionals ready to fight.
MSU showed up in Tallahassee & immedaitely began waving the white flag.
If you are saying you would rather be eliminated by Samford early than get to Monday vs. FSU...you are full of crap.
One thing Vandy & Ole Miss does have on MSU is they actually showed up to their regionals ready to fight.
MSU showed up in Tallahassee & immedaitely began waving the white flag.
