If Barker is our QB against UL...

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This QB argument is kind of silly. The team looked competetive and competent up until the suspension and the EKU game. Obviously this team's problems came from locker room drama. We've all heard about players mailing it in. For some to come out now and pronounce Barker the next coming of Joe Montana after beating this hapless bunch is sad, but predictable.

Who said Barker was the next Joe Montana?
But there was posters saying Towles was better than Montana and the next great QB at UK comparable to Couch.
 

GoCatsForever2k15

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Who said Barker was the next Joe Montana?
But there was posters saying Towles was better than Montana and the next great QB at UK comparable to Couch.

I've definitely seen more people bitching about fans overselling Barkers performance/abilities than I've actually seen fans overselling Barkers performance/abilities.
 
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Lumpy 2

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I don't see how anyone could make a judgement on Barker one way or another based on tonight's game. He played against the weakest competition we've had all year and it was also the worst weather conditions we've had.
 

Poetax

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I think I know the exact play you are talking about I had the same thought about how he handled the pressure as opposed to Towles who would have probably scrambled. I agree with the positives that you've pointed out about Barker, he did some good things. OTOH to be honest I think 2 or 3 of his passes were very poor decisions and if he were playing a better team they would likely have been picked. Other passes were off target but the wind had a big negative effect on passing this evening.

Not sure which QB I would go with at this point against UofL they both have their positives and negatives. Maybe start Barker and see how it goes.

Drew has to get another start, with another week he should get more comfortable but the OC has got to put him in situations where the poor pass protection doesn't do us in. With all the running we did ul shouldn't have much of a clue in what the passing game will be with Drew.
 

CatsFanGG24

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Barker kept a few drives alive w/3rd and 4th down completions...Towles has struggled to do so. Barker has pocket presence and awareness - sits when has time and escaped when needed to. Passed for a similar stat line in the completion % category as Towles usually does, however this game was by far the worst conditions of the year.

Barker starts vs UL - and you don't turn back. He is QB
 

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We will need both quarterbacks as Louisville's tacklers will be in the UK backfield causing pain and chaos throughout the game. I give the Cats a chance, but only if Barker plays the most minutes.
 

Blue63Madison

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What has towels done to convince you he is the better option? Comments like this are a joke...towels nearly let the eku game get away and has gone done hill since. It's evident that barker has a long way to go but the team as a whole is much more inspired. Bottomline you go with the freshman towels is done as a starter at UK he doesn't have it
This is harsh, but it's the truth. Towels had one of the worst seasons for a UK QB ever, and he was seemingly getting worse down the stretch. It's not fair to put Barker in this situation, but it's not his fault. Going back to Towles now would send so many wrong messages. Barker is our QB now, as he should be. Win or lose.
 

BBBLazing

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You talk about someone shaking while you hide behind a keyboard under some ficticious name.

You're the most balless coward I've ever seen on here.
several times you have called people out for hiding behind fictitious names. Is your real name gsayers?
 

Blue63Madison

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I don't think Towles should play next game but come on man. We hung 58 on Charlotte and how much did Barker contribute to hanging that 58? You could've stuck Max Smith out there and we would've won by just as many. I have nothing against Barker..hopefully he'll live up to his potential one of these days, but come on. Barker played a pretty atrocious game tonight. 15 of 29 for basically 100 yards and zero TD's. Come on. How about we start holding Barker to the same standard that Towles was held to, or is that not allowed on this board?
This post is so ... wow. I'm going to assume it's just trolling.
 
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we are not going to win, IMO. It's not his fault but he's just not ready. I hope he's our future answer but I think for us to pull out a W next week it's going to be Towles.

What are you basing that on. I was at the game, and under the conditions I thought he did a good job, especially being his first time as the leader.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 

willievic

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What's dumb about it? I was at the game. I didn't see a lot of separation between what Barker did tonight and what Towles has done all year. The WR's may be trying harder for Barker. Hard to tell anything with the weather and the opponent.

How many interceptions did Barker throw tonight? ZERO!

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 

mtn cat1

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What's dumb about it? I was at the game. I didn't see a lot of separation between what Barker did tonight and what Towles has done all year. The WR's may be trying harder for Barker. Hard to tell anything with the weather and the opponent.

As I've already posted, did we win? That is the one singular stat that is relevant!!!!!!!
 

Poetax

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How many interceptions did Barker throw tonight? ZERO!

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

Guys, this pettiness is stupid. First of all unless we are all totally idiots with the way we ran the ball tonight why would we throw any high risk passes which we didn't. When you get 129 yds on 16 catches you can tell they were short quick throws that the coaches wanted Drew to throw. Throwing the high risk long ball against a weak team like Charlotte would have been the worst coaching decision to date.
 

trueblujr

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A fair point, and I agree with Barker going forward, but he had not done much of the scoring or leading us to said scoring. He's played ok.
Actually we scored 59 in the first game last season. That being said, barker Needs to get the nod next week, and I think, the coaches meant this change to be permanent. At least for this year.
 

mtn cat1

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Fellas, we had over 400 yards rushing. IMHO, all we learned is that Barker can hand the ball off.

Does anyone here think Louisville will allow UK to rush for 250 yards next week?

If We get into third and longs I doubt we have a chance.

Mr Hot Dice, I have always liked your take on the FB Program and your overall assessment our X's&O's as well as the coaching prowess! However, I have to take exception to your statement Re. the qb position - going forward!!!!!

At this point in our season&the development of qb play, I would feel just as confident with our top manager if Barker is not allowed to finish the season!!!
Yes, I understand that is an absolutely absurd comment, however, I believe Patrick has been granted MORE than enough opportunities to demonstrate his ability!!!! I sincerely wanted Pat to be successful, just as I very much want to see Mark Stoops be successful!!!! As for Pat, I think his ship has sailed. From what I have witnessed - THIS SEASON - Coach Stoops is coming-up short of expectations!!!
 
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I think Barker saw quite a few real "bullets" flying against Vandy and they were none too pretty..much like what we saw tonight. Towles has been pretty terrible as of late, but some of these people on here acting like Barker is Tom Brady after he's looked even worse than Towles the time that he's been out there just go to show that once someone gets an idea in their mind it's hard to convince them otherwise. They're the same people that wanted Barker to be the starter since the beginning of last season, and nothing is going to convince them otherwise, no matter how poorly he plays going 15 of 29 for a buck twenty and zero TD's against Charlotte. Come on.

This is a woefully uninformed post. And I like PT but you're smoking crack if you think Barker at any point looked worse than Towles at his worst did. Barker looked better than Towles has in weeks in the first half tonight. We didn't pass at all in the second half but Barker played better than Towles probably would have.
 

Blue Bigfoot

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We've tried Towles. In the right system/program, he could be the qb of a very good team. Unfortunately, it's not this one. Barkers going to make mistakes that Towles wouldn't, but he minimizes our o lines deficiencies significantly better than Towles and I think he gives us a punchers chance, which is a hell of a lot more than we've had most of the last couple weeks. Wouldn't be surprised to see him have anywhere from an awful to incredible game next week.

Well Put!
 

BigBlueFanGA

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you might be the dumbest human ive ever heard of. Patrick Towles is horrible, Period. Reece is even 10 time better. Towles is the worst QB that's ever started for UK and its not even close, Stoops might be the worst coach at UK ever for sticking with Towles this long. ruined the season. just look at all 2000 fans in the seats, we are DONE
Ok, I think you're trying to take his trophy. You do realize PT is within a few games of being #4 all time in passing yards and is #8 in passing TD's. He has his struggles but making the comments you just stated is ridiculous, incorrect and foolish.
 
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Randy Bob

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This is Barker first start, he looked pretty good to me, not putting down Towles but the last few games he has not did that much.
 
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Tough to get much from this game due to level of competition and awful wind.

Barker still isn't ready, but looks to be the best option. Much faster decision maker. Goes through progressions much better. Pocket presence much better. A few times he stepped up to buy time, rather than trying to roll out and get sacked.

Barker needs to start against UL and play the whole game unless it's just a disaster. Then hopefully both QBs will grow leaps and bounds during the off-season.
 

OHIO COLONEL

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Win or Lose against UL....the QB competition and the fan base reactions to it should be interesting next Spring/Summer.
 
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wbryant316

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Louisville will beat us rather easily. Our OLine is god awful. They will run and pass all over our sorry D. They have a better coach. Barkers play will be irrelevant because of our chicken play calling
 
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qwesley

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The clear strategic choice is Barker. A year more eligibility, same class as most of the skill guys. Gives fans some hope. If he stayed with Towles and Barker transferred we would be extremely thin after next year.
 

UK90

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Yeah when have we scored 58 with Towles UNDER center? CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP!

In fairness, the reason we hung 58 was not because of Barker or the passing game. Instead, it was because Charlotte has about the worst run defense you'll ever seen in your lifetime. Pretty much any QB capable of handing the ball to a running back could've won this game for UK.

That said, we absolutely should stick with Barker next week. We've made the change, let's see where takes us and not be going backwards.
 
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Low information fans think that if you run the ball a lot that is a reflection on poor qb play.

This game will be won and loss on the ground. Kentucky has to rush the ball but most importantly get some heat on the qb. I hope we win but after watching this team all season if they don't come out focused and fired up they will lose.
 

K_TIME

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I think Barker saw quite a few real "bullets" flying against Vandy and they were none too pretty..much like what we saw tonight. Towles has been pretty terrible as of late, but some of these people on here acting like Barker is Tom Brady after he's looked even worse than Towles the time that he's been out there just go to show that once someone gets an idea in their mind it's hard to convince them otherwise. They're the same people that wanted Barker to be the starter since the beginning of last season, and nothing is going to convince them otherwise, no matter how poorly he plays going 15 of 29 for a buck twenty and zero TD's against Charlotte. Come on.
1. Drew was 5-8 with 1TD and 1 Int vs. Vandy. He didn't look atrocious at all. (Towles was 10-26 with 0 TD and 1 Int vs. the same Vandy team).
2. Drew didn't show much vs. Charlotte I'll agree...but UK was ripping off huge rushes that really never was a chance to throw is a bunch. Drew had one very bad pass that should have been an Int...but other than that, really never threw in harms way. I'll concede many of his completions were the 5 yard out patterns and passes to RB...but he did hit Juice/Badet on some solid intermediate routes for first downs.

Again, I didn't see anything that I would declare Drew as the answer to UK's problems...but he's not crapped the bed as Towles has done most of the last handful of games either. And to be fair, when you're playing as bad as UK has, other guys lose their jobs do...Cody Quinn, Ryan Flannigan, Marcus McWilson, have lost snaps to other players. And if we had any OL depth...I'm also positive there would be different faces there as well. It isn't that big of a deal that Drew is taking snaps in place of Pat right now.