we are not going to win, IMO. It's not his fault but he's just not ready. I hope he's our future answer but I think for us to pull out a W next week it's going to be Towles.
If Barker is our QB against UL...
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Then we have no shot anyways...so you play for the future. Towles is awful of late and couldn't beat UL next week if his life depended on it.
What has towels done to convince you he is the better option? Comments like this are a joke...towels nearly let the eku game get away and has gone done hill since. It's evident that barker has a long way to go but the team as a whole is much more inspired. Bottomline you go with the freshman towels is done as a starter at UK he doesn't have it
Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. I can't even think of a comment to this opinion.
What's dumb about it? I was at the game. I didn't see a lot of separation between what Barker did tonight and what Towles has done all year. The WR's may be trying harder for Barker. Hard to tell anything with the weather and the opponent.
Barker has gotten his feet wet tonight and this game will allow him to build his confidence. He will be stronger because of it. Win or lose next week won't be on him, he'll be fine and stronger next week. Team seems more fired up with him at QB tonight and I like it. And, yes, I realize it's just Charlotte tonight but it's a building block.
I don't see how you can make an assessment that Barker is better or worse than Towles to be honest. I want a full game of Barker vs. UL to see what he can do when real bullets start flying.
Good lord, Jalen Whitlow, Morgan Newton...both far worse. Hell, there was a year with Curry when we literally didn't have QB who could lift his arm to throw a pass. O'Farrell just run a triple option without the 3rd option.
I don't see us beating Louisville next week. Even if Louisville plays mediocre we just haven't been playing well at all. Maybe Im just jaded by the last 4 games.I don't think it matters which QB we start. If the receivers are willing to actually make an effort for Barker then why not play him. I think he is the future of the position for us so may as well get him some experience.
Then again I didn't think we had a chance last year and we nearly pulled it off so who knows.
Then again I didn't think we had a chance last year and we nearly pulled it off so who knows.
A fair point, and I agree with Barker going forward, but he had not done much of the scoring or leading us to said scoring. He's played ok.
Watch the video of the game if you didn't see any different in the two QB's. Barker has a quicker release, makes quicker decisions, and has a much better pocket presence. Several times he tried to step up in the pocket and kept his eyes downfield. there was also a play where he immediately got pressure and started to move but only took a couple of steps towards the sideline and one step back to bye time, stopped and fired a first down to a receiver. Towles just doesn't do that instinctively after 15 starts....Barker has a LOT to learn and will take his lumps....but he is clearly better and the future.
We've tried Towles. In the right system/program, he could be the qb of a very good team. Unfortunately, it's not this one. Barkers going to make mistakes that Towles wouldn't, but he minimizes our o lines deficiencies significantly better than Towles and I think he gives us a punchers chance, which is a hell of a lot more than we've had most of the last couple weeks. Wouldn't be surprised to see him have anywhere from an awful to incredible game next week.
Fellas, we had over 400 yards rushing. IMHO, all we learned is that Barker can hand the ball off.
Does anyone here think Louisville will allow UK to rush for 250 yards next week?
If We get into third and longs I doubt we have a chance.
Does anyone here think Louisville will allow UK to rush for 250 yards next week?
If We get into third and longs I doubt we have a chance.
This is hilarious. All year long people have been going crazy about Barker not playing over Towles. Now he finally gets to play a complete game and we hang 58 and now people want Towles to play the next game. You cannot make this stuff up. LOL
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Every time Drew throws it can be picked...cant read zone defenses
I think Barker saw quite a few real "bullets" flying against Vandy and they were none too pretty..much like what we saw tonight. Towles has been pretty terrible as of late, but some of these people on here acting like Barker is Tom Brady after he's looked even worse than Towles the time that he's been out there just go to show that once someone gets an idea in their mind it's hard to convince them otherwise. They're the same people that wanted Barker to be the starter since the beginning of last season, and nothing is going to convince them otherwise, no matter how poorly he plays going 15 of 29 for a buck twenty and zero TD's against Charlotte. Come on.
Towles never singlehandedly almost let the EKU game get away. Barker will be fine but with the oline not pass protecting him, we would have had a rough time even tonight if we didn't have some great running backs. The oline has not been consistent in pass blocking all year for any QB. If we don't get this fixed or find a way to get Drew out of harms way, the Louisville game will be hard to win because ul will score points.
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And Barker puts the balls on the receivers hands. How many dropped balls did you see in this game? I saw one by Conrad. it will be very interesting to see how many dropped passes we see going forward. it's commonly accepted that Towles has a canon for an arm and is woefully inaccurate and inconsistent. That's hardly a recipe for receivers to not drop passes. I think I've seen more dropped passes by UK in the last two years then the 10 years before that. Accurate and catchable ball from Barker...would have been interesting to see what this season would look like if Barker had won the QB battle in the Fall
I'm starting to believe our fan base is the biggest problem the football program has. I was waiting for the Reese Phillips post to start.
My lord we have some undiscovered nfl level scouting talent on this board. Guys ready to make a prediction on Barkers play a game and a half into his career. You guys should work on Sundays
15 MPH swirling cold wind. in a game we won 58 to 10... Barker proved today that if he played the whole game against Vandy........ we win. Because he's a better team leader.
I don't think Towles should play next game but come on man. We hung 58 on Charlotte and how much did Barker contribute to hanging that 58? You could've stuck Max Smith out there and we would've won by just as many. I have nothing against Barker..hopefully he'll live up to his potential one of these days, but come on. Barker played a pretty atrocious game tonight. 15 of 29 for basically 100 yards, zero TD's (and a few throws that would be house calls if made against literally anyone but Charlotte). Come on. How about we start holding Barker to the same standard that Towles was held to, or is that not allowed on this board?
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Pretty incredible that in a game and a half he's only had one pick the result of a bad read...despite every single throw having been able to be picked. Didn't realize how porous the defenses we've played have been
One reason that I would hesitate to hold Barker to the same standard is because Barker is a freshman.
So his first start and he's as good as a two year starter? Can only go up from there, not real sure why you would think Towles is a better option lol.
Last year we did beat UT Martin 59-14. Not starting anything ... just saying.
He played an atrocious game? Did you watch it at all? 16/29. Didn't throw a pick. It's not an incredible stat line, but how is that atrocious?
Our running backs played out of their minds tonight. How many points did you expect us to score?
Yes towles was terrible through out the game and only when we were down on the ropes he decided to play. Honestly though it has nothing to do with "football intelligence" whatever that is. It's the concept that if you play someone new over a player who has killed your offense throughout the year the team is going to respond in a positive manner. Spirits are higher they play harder. Coaching intelligence is much more important, sparking and motivating the team.
I don't care if towles is better at this point or not I don't care if the oline is garbage. There is 1 game left for the bowl and they need to find a way to win it if it means going with a rookie in order to inspire.
Being at the game, and watching the poor pass protection still again, if we didn't have a run game tonight, it would have been a lot uglier. You can save your praise for Boom and JoJo.
I think I know the exact play you are talking about I had the same thought about how he handled the pressure as opposed to Towles who would have probably scrambled. I agree with the positives that you've pointed out about Barker, he did some good things. OTOH to be honest I think 2 or 3 of his passes were very poor decisions and if he were playing a better team they would likely have been picked. Other passes were off target but the wind had a big negative effect on passing this evening.
Not sure which QB I would go with at this point against UofL they both have their positives and negatives. Maybe start Barker and see how it goes.
I know who we hung 58 on and that is not the point of my post. The point of my post is that All Year every game there was Mulitple Threads before during and after the games about Barker needing to play. Towles is terrible ect: now Barker got his opportunity and now people are wanting Towles back.. To me that is hilarious. And BTW, I was not one of the ones that was for changing QB's until it got to the point that Towles was not going to get it done.
This QB argument is kind of silly. The team looked competetive and competent up until the suspension and the EKU game. Obviously this team's problems came from locker room drama. We've all heard about players mailing it in. For some to come out now and pronounce Barker the next coming of Joe Montana after beating this hapless bunch is sad, but predictable.
Actually UL has been garbage for a few weeks and let Pitt march up and down the field on them. Also are defense has been excellent considering the situation.
I like our chances to win, with either QB honestly, and think the coaches let it all hang out for this one!
I like our chances to win, with either QB honestly, and think the coaches let it all hang out for this one!