In some respects, I get it. Teams everywhere are looking for the next big thing and are wiling to jump on any head coach who has shown a pulse. See Mel Tucker. So, yeah, like you say, some modest raise/extension, but we certainly overreact.
If Beamer Leaves for V.Tech....
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In some respects, I get it. Teams everywhere are looking for the next big thing and are wiling to jump on any head coach who has shown a pulse. See Mel Tucker. So, yeah, like you say, some modest raise/extension, but we certainly overreact.
Gotcha. And it would be nice. And I’ve seen that mountain top with our men’s basketball team. You’ve seen it with our baseball team. And here we are, right back in our lane, with both programs.
I don’t much care about the fan’s desires anymore; I’ve been embarrassed at road games enough to where I had enough. I feel for our coaches and players though. The outside world sees it as a business. Inside there are life lessons and relationships being made and being built; the work and investment the players and coaches put in, whether it’s ultimately manifested in terms of winning games or not, affects each of them deeply and permanently for the most part. They are the ones I would wish success for.
In the meantime, Stephen Stills stated it eloquently; if you can’t be with the one you love….
I would assume this speaks to your shunning of the "win at all cost" mentality?
Frankly, I am highly aligned with him philosophically on most things.
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That’s the general idea yes. I played for Dick Sheridan in high school; Swinney is very similar. Other than that, I’d throw up in my mouth if I said anything else.I would assume this speaks to your shunning of the "win at all cost" mentality?
Frankly, I am highly aligned with him philosophically on most things.
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Which ones were Franklin's one or two good years that his agent leveraged? The back to back 9-4 seasons at Vandy or 2 of the 5 seasons at PSU where he got at least 10 wins?
Lea so far is 23-34 at Vandy in his 5th season. He was 7-6 last year. If he takes Vandy to the playoffs, that will be an accomplishment indeed. Franklin had 24 wins in 3 seasons.
However, Franklin's accomplishments there still dwarf Lea's at this point. Lea is winning right now b/c he has a QB who transferred there after playing a decade or so elsewhere and then sued b/c he wanted to keep playing into his retirement years.
Franklin led Vandy to back-to-back 9-4 seasons, 3 consecutive bowl appearances with 2 consecutive wins and 2 consecutive top 25 finishes WITHOUT any of the massive benefit from NIL or transfer portal or essentially unlimited eligibility that players have now. THAT was a monumental achievement. All he did at PSU was have six 10+ win seasons and five top 10 finishes.
Lea may very well be a great coach, but so far he has one decent season and is in the middle of his first very good season.
One word comes to mind: IMPRESSIVE.
He has won BIG at 4 different schools. He would win big here, too, I believe. If we have to say Sayonara to Beamer next year, he needs to be interviewed and seriously considered.
HE is the kind of coach we should have hired after the Muschamp gamble blew up in our faces. But, we decided to gamble AGAIN.
You must like him, too.
Anyone who has read my past comments, knows I praised and credited Beamer for producing a number 23 and number 19 teams. (NOTE: not everyone is going to nor should remember a faceless internet poster). My beef with Beamer is that here we are in his 5th season and we are struggling to have just a winning season. What it looks like, thus far, what we are getting from Beamer is an Up and Down, Up and Down program rather than a consistent winner like Josh Heupel, Eli Drinkwitz and Lane Kiffin are producing.
My biggest beef with this year, and I've been as "vocal" as I can be about on here (as if it matters what I say on here...it's cathartic) is that this season was 100% preventable. We are in this predicament b/c he retained a KNOWN major liability with Teasley and then made as uninspired of an OC hire as he could. If you upgrade our OL this season to even just mediocre, we are likely around 5-3 instead of 3-5. Throw in a better OC and we might be 6-2 or better. Of those, promoting Shula was the lesser evil as he was an unknown entity in that capacity. But the WHOLE world knew Teasley was awful. But we retained him AND gave him a huge raise.
That one decision resulted in a stillborn season.
On board with stock and 18 here.
It signals to me a coach that is still learning on the job. If I had one complaint about Shane, its that he should have spent a few years at a coordinator, or as a HC at a smaller school.
He needed to be involved with running a program before he was handed an SEC program.
It is frustrating to be finishing up year 5, a losing season, and hoping that the coach will learn and make the right decision this time.
It signals to me a coach that is still learning on the job. If I had one complaint about Shane, its that he should have spent a few years at a coordinator, or as a HC at a smaller school.
He needed to be involved with running a program before he was handed an SEC program.
It is frustrating to be finishing up year 5, a losing season, and hoping that the coach will learn and make the right decision this time.
If we have to make a change next year, I am encouraged that we now have a professional AD who was hired on his merits rather than rewarded for winning 2 baseball national championships.
There is smoke there. Fantastic hire for them if it happens. They will quickly become relevant.
Remember after the first 2 games when we were saying the offense was inept against VT and SCSU? Where are the folks who said, just wait - we will get better and finish strong?
Some poster kept smacking me around for not believing even after we rebounded from our ODU debacle last year.
He will not be available by this time next year.
Looks like VT is going to hire Franklin. I wonder if they considered Chesney?
How much of it was a true rebound as opposed to Sellers just doing some rather unexpected things?
Defenses definitely did not know what to do with him last year. I don’t know how much of his struggle this year you would call a sophomore slump…I know he’s not a sophomore, but it’s his second year as a starter…as opposed to defenses getting a better bead on him.
Here's a fact:
If we fire Beamer next season, there will be good, experienced, proven Head Coaches available. I do not know who they are. But if Jeremiah Donati's one time at bat in hiring a Head Football Coach is any indication, he will bring in such a good one. Sonny Dykes record at TCU since Donati hired him is 33-15.
If we fire Beamer next season, there will be good, experienced, proven Head Coaches available. I do not know who they are. But if Jeremiah Donati's one time at bat in hiring a Head Football Coach is any indication, he will bring in such a good one. Sonny Dykes record at TCU since Donati hired him is 33-15.
I think it's more than just a sophomore slump (and, yes, he's a RS sophomore). Ever since the bowl game last year, it has seemed as if he is playing tentatively. Even when he breaks open a run this year, it seems like he is immediately looking to slide or go out of bounds rather than predatorily using his athletic gifts to gain more yards. Obviously, you don't want your starting QB to take the same hits that a RB takes, but it just seems like there's a tentativeness there this year that wasn't there prior to the bowl game last year. Maybe it's all on him and he's overthinking the game on his own, but he sure looks like a guy that's been "coached down."
It's a combination. The defenses know how to defend him better and he IS more tentative this season because he doesn't want to get injured (I can't say I blame him).
Yeah, I mean it's not only his second year.
It is like a flip switched between the Clemson game and the bowl game and it's never switched back. He's had a few flashes this year, but nothing consistent.
The national rumor is that is who we would pursue if Beamer went to Va Tech.
I could go for him, even though I prefer an offensive-minded coach. Hell, Kirby Smart is defensive-minded.
I don't know if there are national rumors about who would pursue, but it seems like a promising future coach. Thing that would scare me off is what are the statistical odds that 2 consecutive head coaches from JMU would go on to be successful P4 coaches?
It would look like we're just trying to copycat IU and it probably wouldn't work.
