If Jeff Lebby wins his next 4 SEC games in a row

Walkthedawg

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We're not serious about football, it's pretty clear at this point. We just don't care.
Unfortunately you are absolutely correct. It’s like we have to field a team to simply stay in the SEC. And that’s the only reason. But we pay close to the same to watch it as other people do that actually enjoy watching it. We just watch a clinic of what not to do.
 
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Again if he were fired (which he’s not going to be) just how much confidence do you have with anyone in our athletic department or administration making another hire?

And all of you with your cute wish lists know none of those guys would be hired. It would be another coordinator hire like Lebby because no one in their right mind as a sitting head coach is going to come to this toxic cesspool of a job where you get fired every two years (or less). You’re just wasting keystrokes with the wishful thinking.
 

QuaoarsKing

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And all of you with your cute wish lists know none of those guys would be hired. It would be another coordinator hire like Lebby because no one in their right mind as a sitting head coach is going to come to this toxic cesspool of a job where you get fired every two years (or less). You’re just wasting keystrokes with the wishful thinking.
6 years ago, a bunch of posters said there was no way we would poach a sitting P5 head football coach.
6 months ago, a bunch of posters said there was no we we would poach one of the best baseball coaches in the country.
 
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6 years ago, a bunch of posters said there was no way we would poach a sitting P5 head football coach.
6 months ago, a bunch of posters said there was no we we would poach one of the best baseball coaches in the country.
The baseball comparison is so incredibly silly. Why did you even type that.
 

85Bears

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Again if he were fired (which he’s not going to be) just how much confidence do you have with anyone in our athletic department or administration making another hire?

And all of you with your cute wish lists know none of those guys would be hired. It would be another coordinator hire like Lebby because no one in their right mind as a sitting head coach is going to come to this toxic cesspool of a job where you get fired every two years (or less). You’re just wasting keystrokes with the wishful thinking.
There are good G5 coaches who could be hired and there are also good smart Coordinators who could be hired, both categories would be clear upgrades over Lebby
 

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The point still remains….I have zero confidence in Selmon or Keenum making a football hire.
The question isn’t could they make a good hire. The question is could they make a better hire than Lebby. It would be hard not to. No matter though, we’re going to run it back next year with Lebby & probably almost all assistants, if not all of them. I hope it turns out a lot better than I think it will.
 
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Called3rdstrikedawg

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The baseball comparison is so incredibly silly. Why did you even type that.
When it is the ONLY sport your entire Administration is serious about while we have some butt-hurt douchebags who got cut from their T-ball team so they hate baseball, it is proof that State CAN hire Top 3 Coach even if we can’t hire a Top 100 football coach or a Top 50 basketball coach.
 
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There are good G5 coaches who could be hired and there are also good smart Coordinators who could be hired, both categories would be clear upgrades over Lebby
Your reading comprehension sucks. I’m not saying there aren’t. All I’m saying is that I have zero confidence in a hiring process for football. Their hand will be forced when he goes 3-9 next year and we will probably see another spectacularly bad hire.
 

M R DAWGS

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His career SEC winning percentage will finally match Sylvester Croom’s .250 mark. Croom finished 10-30 in SEC play in 5 years.

I mean, what are we even talking about here with bringing him back? What impossible standard would he have to hit in 2026 to get to see 2027?
His career SEC winning percentage will finally match Sylvester Croom’s .250 mark. Croom finished 10-30 in SEC play in 5 years.

I mean, what are we even talking about here with bringing him back? What impossible standard would he have to hit in 2026 to get to see 2027?
Great post
 
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85Bears

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Again if he were fired (which he’s not going to be) just how much confidence do you have with anyone in our athletic department or administration making another hire?

And all of you with your cute wish lists know none of those guys would be hired. It would be another coordinator hire like Lebby because no one in their right mind as a sitting head coach is going to come to this toxic cesspool of a job where you get fired every two years (or less). You’re just wasting keystrokes with the wishful thinking.
I responded to your second paragraph. There are plenty of Coordinators who would be upgrades over Lebby.
 
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Perd Hapley

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The point still remains….I have zero confidence in Selmon or Keenum making a football hire.

That’s fine. But that Keenum / Selmon problem isn’t going away next year, either….so how does it affect what we should do right now?

The Lebby problem could be gone tomorrow. And Keenum / Selmon could then simply draw a name out of a hat that is highly likely to be better than what we have. How much better? Who knows. But Lebby is objectively the worst head coach - in any sport - in modern MSU history, through his first 2 years. Just check his winning percentage vs. everyone else. The risk / reward here is off-the-charts in favor of making a change ASAP.
 
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TaleofTwoDogs

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Again if he were fired (which he’s not going to be) just how much confidence do you have with anyone in our athletic department or administration making another hire?

And all of you with your cute wish lists know none of those guys would be hired. It would be another coordinator hire like Lebby because no one in their right mind as a sitting head coach is going to come to this toxic cesspool of a job where you get fired every two years (or less). You’re just wasting keystrokes with the wishful thinking.
True, but for $3 - $4 million a year I think our ROI for Lebby's 3rd year should be better than 23 out of 24 2026 recruits being 3 stars with the lone 4 star not even a consensus 4 star. You aren't going to win many games in the tough SEC with that type of tract record.
 
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POTUS

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Because it's an example of people on a message board confidently saying something that turned out to be wrong.
No because baseball doesn’t matter. The reason our athletic program sucks is that we’ve majored on a minor. Every dollar should be put toward improving football. All energy and effort should be directed there. That won’t happen, so we’ll be in CUSA sooner or later. We’re going to Oregon State ourselves because our fanbase says, “wait til baseball season.”

We could win 10 nattys in baseball and it wouldn’t be as good for the university as what OM is doing in one year in football.
 
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Indndawg

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6 years ago, a bunch of posters said there was no way we would poach a sitting P5 head football coach.
6 months ago, a bunch of posters said there was no we we would poach one of the best baseball coaches in the country.
Lets go back way farther. 2003 lets hope and pray The Kang doesn't retire. Post 38-0
2008: We can't fire 2007 SEC COY
2019: We can't fire a corch that had a 2-0 record vs OM
 

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You can’t fire him this year with all the openings plus the record improved. Not playing KT is a firable offense. Not bowl next year and it’s an easy decision
 

BTCMoonBoy

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6 years ago, a bunch of posters said there was no way we would poach a sitting P5 head football coach.
6 months ago, a bunch of posters said there was no we we would poach one of the best baseball coaches in the country.
Dopey
 

mcdawg22

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His career SEC winning percentage will finally match Sylvester Croom’s .250 mark. Croom finished 10-30 in SEC play in 5 years.

I mean, what are we even talking about here with bringing him back? What impossible standard would he have to hit in 2026 to get to see 2027?
If he wins his next four SEC games, he definitely deserves to be back.***
 
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TheBannerM

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No because baseball doesn’t matter. The reason our athletic program sucks is that we’ve majored on a minor. Every dollar should be put toward improving football. All energy and effort should be directed there. That won’t happen, so we’ll be in CUSA sooner or later. We’re going to Oregon State ourselves because our fanbase says, “wait til baseball season.”

We could win 10 nattys in baseball and it wouldn’t be as good for the university as what OM is doing in one year in football.
🗣️🗣️Louder for the people in the back.
 

josebrown

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Auburn fired a .660 coach that had 7 straight bowl seasons and a national championship because he couldn't beat Saban. It wasn't the right decision, but Auburn cares about football.

We don't care. We go from 0-8 to 1-7 and herald the improvement.
If you can’t see the improvement,, you’re blind!! **
 
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josebrown

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You can’t fire him this year with all the openings plus the record improved. Not playing KT is a firable offense. Not bowl next year and it’s an easy decision
Any coach that left creating those openings would be better than what we have now. I strongly disagree with that opinion. There are far more qualified coaches in America than there are openings in the P4.