If the collective board is having a "Melt Down" over the lack of a public hiring decision is it also capable of having a "Melt Up" later?

OhioLion

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Unless the resurrection of Joe Paterno happens or Nick Saban walks into the Lasch for his hiring presser, IMO this board is NOT having a “Melt Up”.
 

BocaBob

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Both can be warranted.

There's no denying the initial coach search did not pan out in the way the Athletic Department planned. I'm fine with joining in the rest of the internet and pointing out Kraft had a 50+ day run-up to get this right and failed in a way that is comically bad for a team that made the playoffs last year . . . no matter who the coach ends up being, it's not the guy that Kraft sold to the administration (Kalani) as who they should pull the trigger on for his vision.

Now, Kraft could also trip and stumble into an NFL coach that becomes available, or it's possible a coach no one is aware is unhappy at their current job is sending signals through back channels - it'd be great if PSU hired a candidate with a proven record of success, it'd also be great if Heather Graham came roller skating into my living room right now in a re-enactment of Boogie Nights, right now there is nothing that gives me the hope for either future but on the off chance a miracle happens you won't hear me complain about the end result.

Girl Why Dont We Have Both GIF
 

Ludd

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I don’t see any coaches worthy of melting up that are available. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am.
 

PAgeologist

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One thing I have really thought hard about throughout all of this is that the vast majority of football people are dumb. Not all of them, but the vast majority are. That goes for the media, coaches, fans, and certainly players. There is a reason most schools have a lower admission standard for football players and they get all the academic help needed.
 

TOC_Lions44

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The so called melt down is warranted. They just signed two players. Really not sure what fans are supposed to do here. Every other school hired a coach.

Unless Marcus Freeman or Dan Lanning is coming, no coach was ever worth waiting past last Sunday. If you hired a coach last Sunday then the class would have been a minimum of ten. Waiting until Sunday was fine. I never expected a hire before that, but it came and went.
 

razpsu

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The guys that are melting down have been noted by many. They made their bed. So if they post something good about the next coach or Kraft etc in the future, man that will be something to comment on.
 

KingLando

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Everyone is acting like the sky is falling.
We will be fine. With NIL and a lot of available scholarships, we will get athletes.
So sick of the talking heads who ripped Franklin for years now talking like he’s Saban. Screw them all.
Say it louder and repeatedly
 

WVilleLion23

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The guys that are melting down have been noted by many. They made their bed. So if they post something good about the next coach or Kraft etc in the future, man that will be something to comment on.
lol. Yeah, because opinions can’t change. 🙄
 

LionJim

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lol. Yeah, because opinions can’t change. 🙄
There’s no shame in saying, dang maybe I should have looked at this from a different perspective.

The only issue I might have is that people need to differentiate between things they understand and things they know nothing about. That’s an important life skill.

And people who say they are never wrong, put them on ignore. That’s another important life skill.
 

WVilleLion23

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There’s no shame in saying, dang maybe I should have looked at this from a different perspective.

The only issue I might have is that people need to differentiate between things they understand and things they know nothing about. That’s an important life skill.

And people who say they are never wrong, put them on ignore. That’s another important life skill.
Yep. And I feel like some of us are purposely being over the top with our bitching just because we can and perception wise it seems like such a cluster and that Kraft has f d this thing up. I mean it is a message board after all.

I know I sure as hell ain’t panicking about this search. It doesn’t impact my life or my wallet one way or another.
 
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Bwifan

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Now might be a good time to save / remember some of the epic posts and how certain posters will try to back track their previous remarks.
No melt down here. As unless they signed Urban or Saban any coach was going to be a roll of the dice. Success at 1 program does not guarantee future success at another program. I would rather PK take his time and get who he thinks is right and not hire someone out of sheer panic of getting someone signed. So they will sign someone and I will support them 100%, knowing that it was a gamble they would have success at PSU.
 

HarrisburgDave

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No melt down here. As unless they signed Urban or Saban any coach was going to be a roll of the dice. Success at 1 program does not guarantee future success at another program. I would rather PK take his time and get who he thinks is right and not hire someone out of sheer panic of getting someone signed. So they will sign someone and I will support them 100%, knowing that it was a gamble they would have success at PSU.
Stop making sense.

 

Bvillebaron

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No melt down here. As unless they signed Urban or Saban any coach was going to be a roll of the dice. Success at 1 program does not guarantee future success at another program. I would rather PK take his time and get who he thinks is right and not hire someone out of sheer panic of getting someone signed. So they will sign someone and I will support them 100%, knowing that it was a gamble they would have success at PSU.
Well if any other coach is a roll of the dice then there’s no excuse for Kraft not hiring one before letter of intent day after he fired Franklin on October 12th and had a jump start on all of the schools who fired coaches and hired replacements already with the exception of UCLA. I attended my first Penn State game when Rip Engle was the coach; had season tickets from 1978 until my wife started having serious health issues a few years ago; lived through the 2004-2005 down era (because Joe should have retired 10-15 years before he was fired in 2011); and the sanctions years. Maybe Kraft will prove me wrong and make a great hire (in which case I will gladly come on this post and officially apologize and eat crow), but I think he has done severe harm to the program which will take years to recover from.
 

Bwifan

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Well if any other coach is a roll of the dice then there’s no excuse for Kraft not hiring one before letter of intent day after he fired Franklin on October 12th and had a jump start on all of the schools who fired coaches and hired replacements already with the exception of UCLA. I attended my first Penn State game when Rip Engle was the coach; had season tickets from 1978 until my wife started having serious health issues a few years ago; lived through the 2004-2005 down era (because Joe should have retired 10-15 years before he was fired in 2011); and the sanctions years. Maybe Kraft will prove me wrong and make a great hire (in which case I will gladly come on this post and officially apologize and eat crow), but I think he has done severe harm to the program which will take years to recover from.
I am not laying this all at PK's feet. We all have no idea how much if at all the meddling PSU BOT has been involved. We don't know how things played out behind the scenes either and who if anyone else was involved and rejected candidates or demands by candidates. For me its not worth getting all worked up about. I gave up tickets several years ago and frankly PSU football has taken less of a role in my life. I will support whoever the next coach is, but I am not going to run around acting as if my hair is on fire screaming about why PSU doesn't have a coach. Until then I will wait to see who it is and welcome him aboard when he signs on with PSU.
 

Bvillebaron

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I am not laying this all at PK's feet. We all have no idea how much if at all the meddling PSU BOT has been involved. We don't know how things played out behind the scenes either and who if anyone else was involved and rejected candidates or demands by candidates. For me its not worth getting all worked up about. I gave up tickets several years ago and frankly PSU football has taken less of a role in my life. I will support whoever the next coach is, but I am not going to run around acting as if my hair is on fire screaming about why PSU doesn't have a coach. Until then I will wait to see who it is and welcome him aboard when he signs on with PSU.
Yeah sorry if I like to have fun on a message board.
 

Ludd

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No melt down here. As unless they signed Urban or Saban any coach was going to be a roll of the dice. Success at 1 program does not guarantee future success at another program. I would rather PK take his time and get who he thinks is right and not hire someone out of sheer panic of getting someone signed. So they will sign someone and I will support them 100%, knowing that it was a gamble they would have success at PSU.
Paints a nice picture, but only if you believe Kraft is taking his time to get the right person. I don’t think that’s what’s happening.
 

Bwifan

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Paints a nice picture, but only if you believe Kraft is taking his time to get the right person. I don’t think that’s what’s happening.
Yeah no one really knows that is why I am not getting nearly as worked up about it. All supposed "analysts" and people in the "know" have been wrong about 99% of the other than Sitake. On 1 hand I give PK and Neeli credit keeping any and all leaks contained. Sure it's fun to speculate or guess who the next coach will be, I just am not going to freak out with whoever it is or isn't. Or say this is going to take PSU 10 years to recover from this coaching change. I am going to let it all play out and enjoy my Christmas season. ;)
 

Ludd

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Yeah no one really knows that is why I am not getting nearly as worked up about it. All supposed "analysts" and people in the "know" have been wrong about 99% of the other than Sitake. On 1 hand I give PK and Neeli credit keeping any and all leaks contained. Sure it's fun to speculate or guess who the next coach will be, I just am not going to freak out with whoever it is or isn't. Or say this is going to take PSU 10 years to recover from this coaching change. I am going to let it all play out and enjoy my Christmas season. ;)
The Sitake situation is what confirms the rest of the speculation that Kraft doesn’t have anyone hired or close to being hired. Without that situation, I wouldn’t be nearly as concerned.
 

rigi19040

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Fans are upset. This is the time of year they should be bitching about the 10th-15th ranked recruiting class not being good enough.