If the schedules were reversed...
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Not sure yet. Texas is still an enigma, as is Auburn. Will know more about each after this weekend. I have a feeling that Texas is going to be worse than OM fans are thinking, and Auburn is going to be better, so it is a wait and see. I can confidently say that there is no way Ash connects on all those homerun deep balls against us, and chances are he wouldn't have tried, so that would have changed the whole complexion of the game for them. I am convinced that Russell would have made all the same passes that Wallace did, without the major mistakes(3 ints).
Possibly...although with your current defense the Troy game would be a
questionable win for you. I would give us 3-1 and UM 2-2 with ya'll playing at Troy.
questionable win for you. I would give us 3-1 and UM 2-2 with ya'll playing at Troy.
Not sure what to think about Troy, their offense looked good against us but they put up a whopping 14 points on North Texas last weekend. Granted it was on the road and they won with that total but still.
We are one of the few schools that has a winning record against the university of texas. We would have beaten them in Starkvegas this year to maintain that winning record.
I think State would be 3-1 or 4-0. I would suspect Texas would win, but we won't really know until we see them play somebody good and also get a better idea of how MSU will play against better opponents.
UM would be 2-2 to 4-0. JSU and USA a sure things. Troy I don't know about. Based on the way we made them look, I'd say they would be UM, but I think (hope) that was a combination of us not being up and holding back on defense. Auburn I would assume would beat UM, but while all of their losses have been respectable, they didn't exactly look good in their one win either. I think Auburn will end up looking like a pretty good team with a big weakness at qb, but it's hard to know for sure yet.
Auburn would shut that a$$ down
Sorry, you're aGAIN grasping for the elusive straw
Sorry, you're aGAIN grasping for the elusive straw
Who do you think the loss would be to? Troy? Talk about people grasping for straws...
Not to lump myself in, because there is a bunch of off the map homer responses in this thread, but...
We heard the EXACT same thing last year after our week 4 OT win against Louisiana Tech. The fact is, you don't have a CLUE how good/bad Troy is, just like we aren't sure how good Texas is. Like LT, Troy was nowhere near a pushover in their house. OM fans found that out the hard way last year...
Predicting an Ole Miss loss to Troy makes as much sense as predicting a MSU win over Texas. Is it possible? Absolutely, especially with a well-prepared Troy or State team. Is it likely? No. Almost every relevant stat favors Texas and Ole Miss.
i'm with your both teams would be 3-1, but the troy-om comparison is no where NEAR the msu-texas one. Both msu and texas have defenses stout enough to keep a game close. OM couldnt possibly predict if they would be able to hold back troy's offense.
On the road at Troy, you would be, at best, a 3-6 point favorite. With Texas in Starkville, we would have likely been a 3-6 point favorite and at worst a 3 point dog. Every relevant stat favors Texas? Like what stat?
Texas is nothing special, and that will become readily apparent over the next 3 weeks. OM fans have just built them into this unstoppable machine in your head to justify the *** whipping you got in Oxford. What will be your excuse when Ok State drops 40 on them tomorrow?
You are looking at the name on the jersey and making assumptions, instead of looking at facts and "relevant stats".
Texas is a decent big 12 team. Nothing more, nothing less.
Us beating you by 28 just after the half is somehow miraculously less impressive than Texas beating you by 28 at the exact same point in the game... Who knew?
Indentical records does not mean equal teams. Your forgetting we beat Auburn. What legitimate 1-a school have you beaten? You guys would and will lose big to Auburn. Your undersized lines will show up as the season progresses and this charade will finally come to end.
Total offense
Total defense
Sacks
First down defense
First down offense
Scoring offense
TFL
Time of possession
MSU is ahead in scoring defense (3 ppg) and turnover margin.
Those relevant enough for you?
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I guess you're assuming Troy could stop Ole Miss?
Troy: 13 offensive TDs
Ole Miss: 20 offensive TDs.
Like I said, stats favor OM and Texas. That doesn't always mean they win, but the probability is higher.
We've played 4 games. The entire Auburn and Troy games are relevant. Then about 2/3 of each of the USA and JSU games are irrelevant... so the data on us would be skewed. And the data on Texas be skewed considering they played a team who gave up 66 points because their defense plays like girls.
Call me in 4 or 5 weeks once you get some real data.
A defense that has given up only 93 more yards than your defense through 4 games.
No, they aren't.
Total offense - Only because they dropped almost 800 yards on you
Total defense - not the goal of State's defensive philosophy
Sacks - We haven't even tried to bring the heat to anyone yet, because we haven't seen anyone who could beat us with their arm
FD D - Wtf does that matter?
FD O - Wtf does that matter?
Scoring O - Only because they put up 66 on you.
TFL - Vanilla. Had 9 against Auburn, which we could easily repeat in every other game if that was our goal.
Time of Possession - Another irrelevant stat
Let's see where their stats sit after they face their first real team this weekend.
Can someone shoot this guy the reply tutorial?
Like I said, we've played our 2nd and 3rd team quite a bit 2 of the first 4 games. We also haven't payed an atrocious offense like Tulane.
Come back in two weeks with these stats and let's see how things look after we play UK and you guys get Bama and aTm. And yes, you can take per game averages then, since we'll only have played 5 and you'll have 6.
I've said it before and I'll say this again. Ole Miss is a different team this year. They are playing a different brand of football. Much like us in 2009, there are definitely positives to take from the eyeball test of your team.... but you're still not any good. I you get a 5th win, I'll be very surprised. I just don't see 2 more wins on your schedule.
Like I said, we've played our 2nd and 3rd team quite a bit 2 of the first 4 games. We also haven't payed an atrocious offense like Tulane.
Come back in two weeks with these stats and let's see how things look after we play UK and you guys get Bama and aTm. And yes, you can take per game averages then, since we'll only have played 5 and you'll have 6.
I've said it before and I'll say this again. Ole Miss is a different team this year. They are playing a different brand of football. Much like us in 2009, there are definitely positives to take from the eyeball test of your team.... but you're still not any good. I you get a 5th win, I'll be very surprised. I just don't see 2 more wins on your schedule.
Again, the GOAL of our defense is not to prevent giving up YARDS. Never has been under Mullen. Let me know when you win a game based on yards.
Doesn't change the fact that we are a better defense than Texas, for the 3rd season in a row, and that will become apparent as the season goes on and we are again a top 15 scoring d while they are somewhere just inside the top 40.
Your OM defense will have more TFL and Sacks than MSU does this year. It is in the Joe Lee Dunn scheme that you've got Dave Wommack trying to run with bad cover CBs, which is also why Ash burned you deep about 10 times in a row, literally every single time he wanted to...
We both have played one legit 1-a school. State looked impressive in a 28-10 victory over Auburn. TSUN looked horrible in a 66-31 loss to Texas. Nuff said.
We're not very good, but how does that change whether we would be 3-1 with your record or whether your team could stop Texas?
No. i'm saying um couldn't stop Troy. Um could score with Troy. Maybe. Slight maybe. Neither state out Texas could count on a high scoring game. Our defenses are more predictable. What would be is the amount of points Troy scored. that is to say a lot
I honestly do think we would probably both be 3-1 but I think we have a much better chance of beating Texas at home than y'all beating Troy on the road.
You say stop and then bring up offensive stats. Troy, at their place, i don't know if you know this but there's only been one BCS school to win there...their defense is by far better than utep, uca, and tulane.