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  • Our momentum continues, everything is still possible.
  • Questions surrounding our defense and offense will be answered.
  • We may garner more positive media attention.
  • We still won't know our ceiling.
I know that Oregon is not the same juggernaut they were with Mariota a few years ago. But, they are still a media darling, nationally respected team. This game will count nothing towards our conference standings, but a win should bolster confidence and bring positive attention to the program.

In terms of big-gameness, MSU was a much larger game imo. In terms of getting a win when we need it most, Oregon is that game. We live season to season, starting over every year hoping for more.

A loss to Oregon won't spell the demise of Husker football, but it will narrow the perspective of what this team can likely accomplish.
 
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It'll also mean we will likely get in the top 25 so our score and stats will be on the bottom line which is all I'm asking for.
 
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oregon isn't that good. i'll say it today so you don't try and call me on it later. their rush d is terrible and overall D is probably worse. they might outscore us but i think it's much more likely that we get a few turnovers and score a ton of points.

honestly, i think it should be corrected to "when" we win tomorrow.

just saying.

p.s. i predicted 85-83 in 5 OT's in the prediction thread because we will make mistakes too... but oregon is not a good team.
 
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red rover 70 said:
I more interested in seeing how long it takes for someone to say Oregon wasn't that good.
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I will say we simply don't know how to judge a win or loss tomorrow until we see how Oregon does in conference play. At the end of the season we can put the game in proper perspective, doing so after the game tomorrow would just be speculation.
 
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nebcountry said:
  • Our momentum continues, everything is still possible.
  • Questions surrounding our defense and offense will be answered.
  • We may garner more positive media attention.
  • We still won't know our ceiling.
I know that Oregon is not the same juggernaut they were with Mariota a few years ago. But, they are still a media darling, nationally respected team. This game will count nothing towards our conference standings, but a win should bolster confidence and bring positive attention to the program.

In terms of big-gameness, MSU was a much larger game imo. In terms of getting a win when we need it most, Oregon is that game. We live season to season, starting over every year hoping for more.

A loss to Oregon won't spell the demise of Husker football, but it will narrow the perspective of what this team can likely accomplish.
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It's a big game and the biggest home game for sure because the competition at home games goes down considerably the rest of the season. But there are games later in the season that are more important. I'd trade a win against Oregon for one at Wisconsin, for instance. And if you asked whether I'd rather beat Oregon but not win the B1G West or whether I'd rather lose to Oregon but win the B1G West, it's no contest-definitely the latter. The conference is much more important. So in other words, a win would be big, but there are more important games coming up, and a loss would be disappointing but not devastating because there would still be major goals still available to reach.
 
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It's a big game and the biggest home game for sure because the competition at home games goes down considerably the rest of the season. But there are games later in the season that are more important. I'd trade a win against Oregon for one at Wisconsin, for instance. And if you asked whether I'd rather beat Oregon but not win the B1G West or whether I'd rather lose to Oregon but win the B1G West, it's no contest-definitely the latter. The conference is much more important. So in other words, a win would be big, but there are more important games coming up, and a loss would be disappointing but not devastating because there would still be major goals still available to reach.
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See I normally would agree with this line of thinking, BUT.... I thought the same thing about BYU last year and had we beat them we would have had a completely different year imo. Beating Oregon doesn't mean anything in regards to the conference slate except that a win over Oregon gives us confidence that leads to wins in other games. The reason I think this is a must win type situation is because it sets us up for success in conference games. Lose this game and, imo, we drop one or two more before Wisconsin. Win this game and we are 7-0 going into Madison.
 
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See I normally would agree with this line of thinking, BUT.... I thought the same thing about BYU last year and had we beat them we would have had a completely different year imo. Beating Oregon doesn't mean anything in regards to the conference slate except that a win over Oregon gives us confidence that leads to wins in other games. The reason I think this is a must win type situation is because it sets us up for success in conference games. Lose this game and, imo, we drop one or two more before Wisconsin. Win this game and we are 7-0 going into Madison.
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No. I do not see that at all. I don't see how losing to Oregon is going to cost us other games we should win. No connection whatsoever. We lose this one and we should be and I think will be 6-1 going into Madison. Northwestern, Illinois, Indiana and Purdue-we're going to lose 1 or 2 of those solely by losing to Oregon? No, just no. I don't believe the BYU game itself had any effect on the rest of the season last year-it was HOW we lost it that was important. I could buy that a loss could set us up for future disappointment if we had a tough upcoming schedule, but we don't.
 
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If we win this game especially in the right way then we are in for a special season. And I say that cuz then you'll know that the players and the coaches heads are in the right place for future games.
 
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All I know is I hate the phrase "all our goals are still intact" uttered by the players and staff after every first loss the last too many years. Beating Oregon delays that excuse and like somebody else said, gets us in the top 25 ticker - so come on Cornhusker men - just win.
 
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red rover 70 said:
If we win this game especially in the right way then we are in for a special season. And I say that cuz then you'll know that the players and the coaches heads are in the right place for future games.
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This is my line of thinking.

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No. I do not see that at all. I don't see how losing to Oregon is going to cost us other games we should win. No connection whatsoever. We lose this one and we should be and I think will be 6-1 going into Madison. Northwestern, Illinois, Indiana and Purdue-we're going to lose 1 or 2 of those solely by losing to Oregon? No, just no. I don't believe the BYU game itself had any effect on the rest of the season last year-it was HOW we lost it that was important.
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What we do today impacts our tomorrow. I don't believe that winning or losing against Oregon means that we are destined to win or lose future games. It will show us where we are at. Are we gonna be the team that still needs to work on mistakes, finding a way to make things work just to win games, or are we gonna be the team that feels confident moving forward into the season.

The game against Wisconsin is definitely shaping up, especially with their win over LSU. Being in contention or being a spoiler is a world of difference to me.
 
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Oregon was in the mNC game in 2014. Last year they beat stanFord and usc. Yes they are good offense is very good
 
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nebcountry said:
This is my line of thinking.



What we do today impacts our tomorrow. I don't believe that winning or losing against Oregon means that we are destined to win or lose future games. It will show us where we are at. Are we gonna be the team that still needs to work on mistakes, finding a way to make things work just to win games, or are we gonna be the team that feels confident moving forward into the season.

The game against Wisconsin is definitely shaping up, especially with their win over LSU. Being in contention or being a spoiler is a world of difference to me.
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I can definitely buy that it gives an indication of how good we are. But as far as a loss directly affecting our ability to win a future game-I don't believe that.
 
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oregon isn't that good. i'll say it today so you don't try and call me on it later. their rush d is terrible and overall D is probably worse. they might outscore us but i think it's much more likely that we get a few turnovers and score a ton of points.

honestly, i think it should be corrected to "when" we win tomorrow.

just saying.

p.s. i predicted 85-83 in 5 OT's in the prediction thread because we will make mistakes too... but oregon is not a good team.
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Their defense has always sucked....
 
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nebcountry said:
  • Our momentum continues, everything is still possible.
  • Questions surrounding our defense and offense will be answered.
  • We may garner more positive media attention.
  • We still won't know our ceiling.
I know that Oregon is not the same juggernaut they were with Mariota a few years ago. But, they are still a media darling, nationally respected team. This game will count nothing towards our conference standings, but a win should bolster confidence and bring positive attention to the program.

In terms of big-gameness, MSU was a much larger game imo. In terms of getting a win when we need it most, Oregon is that game. We live season to season, starting over every year hoping for more.

A loss to Oregon won't spell the demise of Husker football, but it will narrow the perspective of what this team can likely accomplish.
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Factoid:
Mike Riley was 3-9 vs Oregon from 2003-2014.
Bankers Defense gave up an average of 40.75 points in this 12 game stretch.
 
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nebcountry said:
  • Our momentum continues, everything is still possible.
  • Questions surrounding our defense and offense will be answered.
  • We may garner more positive media attention.
  • We still won't know our ceiling.
I know that Oregon is not the same juggernaut they were with Mariota a few years ago. But, they are still a media darling, nationally respected team. This game will count nothing towards our conference standings, but a win should bolster confidence and bring positive attention to the program.

In terms of big-gameness, MSU was a much larger game imo. In terms of getting a win when we need it most, Oregon is that game. We live season to season, starting over every year hoping for more.

A loss to Oregon won't spell the demise of Husker football, but it will narrow the perspective of what this team can likely accomplish.
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I wouldn't say it'll answer questions about our defense in particular.

Its quite possible we win in a Callahan-eque 56-54 shootout, in which case, we'll be happy we won, but the heat will be on Banker in a big way still.

Obviously if we defensively dominate or have a steady showing, he may garner more appreciation.
 
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Their defense has always sucked....
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no... their defense has always been run ragged by their offense being so explosive. that's quite different from being genuinely awful. in their best years their D was at worst serviceable -- it just happens their offense was almost unstoppable and scored so fast that it hung the D out to dry often.

this defense is genuinely awful. there is absolutely zero reason for us to score less than 40.
 
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I'm actually going to slightly change what i said there -- i'm still sticking with the statement that there's no reason for us to get less than 40 points.

if we get 3 defensive turnovers and especially a score or two we should hit 60.

if i was doing an over/under on nebraska points and yards i'd start around 525 yards and 45 points.

oregon's d is that bad. they're 83rd in the country having played a 2-9 FCS team and a virginia team that's probably going 0-12. i'm not even sure that describes just how bad the defense is. that defense is beyond putrid even for the Pac-12.

that doesn't mean we will win -- if anything, we're fighting our own psyche as fans and players more than anything -- we have lost the "knowing" that we are good enough. you earn that -- you don't just wave a magic wand and say you have it. oregon still has that swagger and we want it.

this game could be a huge first step in taking that back.... but don't kid yourself, the D is god-awful.
 
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Factoid:
Mike Riley was 3-9 vs Oregon from 2003-2014.
Bankers Defense gave up an average of 40.75 points in this 12 game stretch.
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not to go all grammar nazi but your use of the word is beyond ridiculous and for some reason i'm amused at someone trying to sound intelligent by bringing up a random fact that is driven only by their agenda -- which makes you end up sounding so banally stupid...

the word is factette -- a small piece of true information. a factoid is a piece of unverified or inaccurate information.

edit: so i suppose you probably did use the correct word -- since you were only using it for an agenda it's by definition selectively accurate at best.
 
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Hopefully Banker has a little more talent on defense to work with then he did at Oregon State.
 
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Kleitusbpn said:
not to go all grammar nazi but your use of the word is beyond ridiculous and for some reason i'm amused at someone trying to sound intelligent by bringing up a random fact that is driven only by their agenda -- which makes you end up sounding so banally stupid...

the word is factette -- a small piece of true information. a factoid is a piece of unverified or inaccurate information.

edit: so i suppose you probably did use the correct word -- since you were only using it for an agenda it's by definition selectively accurate at best.
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I don't claim to be an English, vocabulary, or grammar expert by any means, but I'm pretty sure the 'beyond ridiculous' post in this particular exchange, belongs to you.
 
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In the 80's speed killed our very good teams in the Orange Bowl. We solved that problem in the 90's. But more recently the same problem has killed us, e.g., Melvin Gordon and Wisky. Oregon will test the speed of our linebackers and db's. That might be a very bad thing for us.
 
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Kleitusbpn said:
oregon isn't that good. i'll say it today so you don't try and call me on it later. their rush d is terrible and overall D is probably worse. they might outscore us but i think it's much more likely that we get a few turnovers and score a ton of points.

honestly, i think it should be corrected to "when" we win tomorrow.

just saying.

p.s. i predicted 85-83 in 5 OT's in the prediction thread because we will make mistakes too... but oregon is not a good team.
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I remember a few years back people (myself included!) saying Wisconsin wasn't that good either as we were all crowning ourselves as the B1G champs. Ugh.

Point being when a program like Oregon comes to your home, you better be ready no matter what the stat sheets say. Speed and talent can be very scary.

 
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I wouldn't say it'll answer questions about our defense in particular.

Its quite possible we win in a Callahan-eque 56-54 shootout, in which case, we'll be happy we won, but the heat will be on Banker in a big way still.

Obviously if we defensively dominate or have a steady showing, he may garner more appreciation.
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I was approaching it this way. If we can't stop them at all, our defense is not as good as we thought. If we dominate, our defense is better than we thought. Will there be particular positions that they can exploit. They've scored over 40 and over 50 in their first two games, what will we hold them too. We make fun of Pelini and wisconsin. From what I remember, a couple knocks on Banker's D is susceptibility to running qb's and spread offenses. The last team in the country you want to be weak against spread/running qb is Oregon with their hurry up no huddle.
 
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This Oregon team isn't as good as some of the past teams in this decade (2010-2014)let's not full our selves in thinking that they are but they are still very good on offense with a young offensive line and question at linebacker on defense.

Limit the big plays and stay even with them on turnovers and we will win this game..

Ohhh yea did I mention TA playing the smartest game of his career wouldn't hurt either.
GBR!
 
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