Hypothetically, it would make sense for a 5-7 team that played one of the nation's toughest schedules in the toughest conference to get offered a bid if there were no other .500 teams. However, it would also be a bit embarrassing to be known as the only losing team in America to go to a bowl. I don't know the answer on this one.
If we go 5-7 and get a bowl bid, do we accept or decline?
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Hypothetically, it would make sense for a 5-7 team that played one of the nation's toughest schedules in the toughest conference to get offered a bid if there were no other .500 teams. However, it would also be a bit embarrassing to be known as the only losing team in America to go to a bowl. I don't know the answer on this one.
First of all I think we should decline becasue we did not deserve to go and the only reason why we got the invite is because there was not enough teams at 6 and 6 to pick from
Second of all I think we should accept, i want to go to a bowl game and it would be fun and it could help recruiting but it would not hurt it.
I think we will be 6 and 6 and it will not be a issue.
One other thing about the issue of too many bowls and not enough teams with winning seasons.I think the bowls should consider Div I AA teams that got into the play off's but lost.
Second of all I think we should accept, i want to go to a bowl game and it would be fun and it could help recruiting but it would not hurt it.
I think we will be 6 and 6 and it will not be a issue.
One other thing about the issue of too many bowls and not enough teams with winning seasons.I think the bowls should consider Div I AA teams that got into the play off's but lost.
Yeah, lets turn down the money and chill at home. No need for extra practice reps for our awesome quarterbacks (or anyone else for that matter). It's also a great idea to piss off the players by telling them they don't get a free trip and schwag because some moron fans might be a bit embarrassed that we got invited to a bowl after only going only 5-7.
Do some of you even realize what you type sometimes?
Do some of you even realize what you type sometimes?
The only team ever to get in with a losing record was North Texas in 2001, and that was only because they won the Sun Belt that year.
I could be wrong, but since the BCS was created, I don't think there has ever been not enough teams.
You go if for nothing more than the extra practice. Maybe we could practice special teams and ball security for that entire 3 weeks of extra practice.
I counted 64 current teams with a 3-0 or 2-1 record. Obviously that will change thru the course of the year, but for us to even have a shot, that number would have to stay below 68.
May not be great exposure, but it's a hell of a lot better than having none during the month of December or January. And who the hell are we to turn down a bowl opportunity if we get one? We've been to 1 in the last 10 years. I think we would practically be begging someone to give us a shot.
that if there's not enough 6-win teams to fill all the bowl slots, they're not going to cancel a bowl. They're going to allow a 5-7 team to go, whether there's a formal rule allowing it or not. And it's not a matter of IF it will happen, it's a matter of WHEN. There are70 bowl slots, not 68 (I'm guessing you forgot to count the BCS Title Game). I think last year there were only about 4 bowl eligible teams that didn't go to a bowl. And as Hanmudog points out, there have been more I-AA upsets this year than there were last year.
Of course you take the bid.<div>
</div><div>How would this be any different than undeservedly getting in to the 2006 NCAA baseball tournament (the year we were ranked #1 and tanked) thanks to LT?</div><div>
</div><div>You take what you can get, even if it's more than you deserve. The money, exposure, etc., far outweighs the "embarrassment" of being a 5-7 school in a bowl (which is lessembarrassingthanbeing a 5-7 team at home).</div>
</div><div>How would this be any different than undeservedly getting in to the 2006 NCAA baseball tournament (the year we were ranked #1 and tanked) thanks to LT?</div><div>
</div><div>You take what you can get, even if it's more than you deserve. The money, exposure, etc., far outweighs the "embarrassment" of being a 5-7 school in a bowl (which is lessembarrassingthanbeing a 5-7 team at home).</div>
There aren't conference tournaments in football. Winning a conference tournament in basketball is an accomplishment. Going 5-7 in football is not.
I don't care about the $300k payout split 12 ways. And I certainly don't want the exposure of being the charity case bowl team.
The extra practice argument is the only real argument I can think of. Again, losing should not be rewarded and I'm not sure the benefits of practice outweigh the embarrassment of being handed a bowl invite for no reason other than a math issue.
How can I be the only one does doesn't view that as embarrassing?
I don't care about the $300k payout split 12 ways. And I certainly don't want the exposure of being the charity case bowl team.
The extra practice argument is the only real argument I can think of. Again, losing should not be rewarded and I'm not sure the benefits of practice outweigh the embarrassment of being handed a bowl invite for no reason other than a math issue.
How can I be the only one does doesn't view that as embarrassing?
They would never do that. There is way too much money involved, along with contractual obligations, so no, they would never cancel a bowl. I'm just saying we need to be realistic. 1) Of course we would take a bowl invite if we got one. We aren't Notre Dame. We take what we can get because it's been pretty bad around here for a while. 2) We don't need to be throwing out the "We can get a bowl if we are 5-7." It's week 4. There are 9 games left. I think we should cross this bridge in 8 weeks when the season is almost over and we see how things shake out.
you accomplished winning 5 games...Georgia was 4-12 in the SEC when they won the Tourney- come on- going to the NCAA Tourney with a losing record is no better than going 5-7...
And it's a no-brainer- you go.
What about the exposure if you win the bowl game? That's right in the primetime of recruiting- you dont think thats a bonus?
And it's a no-brainer- you go.
What about the exposure if you win the bowl game? That's right in the primetime of recruiting- you dont think thats a bonus?
and its really not about the bowl game in and of itself. We are trying to develop a program and you don't turn down the chance of another 3 weeks of practice time for the young guys on the team if you get the chance.
or at least get to watch us play. I will be dissapointed if we do go 5-7 but we still need to accept the invite if we somehow got one.
"Is it me?"
Great bit.
I'd vote for accepting whatever paltry bowl bid we can squeak into, no matter the technicalities invoked or the supposed PR embarrassment that results.
After all, if Bammer, LSU, Arkansas, and potentially Auburn ALL finish in the top 10, which could happen, with Bama winning the NC, then most of what the announcers would talk about is how 5-7 in the SECW isn't *that* bad.
Great bit.
I'd vote for accepting whatever paltry bowl bid we can squeak into, no matter the technicalities invoked or the supposed PR embarrassment that results.
After all, if Bammer, LSU, Arkansas, and potentially Auburn ALL finish in the top 10, which could happen, with Bama winning the NC, then most of what the announcers would talk about is how 5-7 in the SECW isn't *that* bad.
And go have a good time, make some money and enjoy some post season play.
However, I'd rather be 7-5 and get a bid if we are going to group-wish for something.
However, I'd rather be 7-5 and get a bid if we are going to group-wish for something.
hatfieldms said:
I think the short term embarrassment would definitely be worth the long term benefits when you look at it that way.
I will say this however, if we are in the midst of a 4 or 5 game losing streak then my enthusiasm for going to a bowl would be nil. Last year we had some good momentum after winning the Egg even if we did end up 5-7.
I played for Oak Grove in '94 and we ended up a win short of making the playoff's for the first time ever. We got invited to play in the Paper Bowl vs Lawrence County and our coaches left it up to us whether or not we played in it. It seemed that they would rather not because we missed our goals; and even though we voted to play in it, we played the flattest that we had all year due to some players giving up and us knowing that our coaches had no faith in us.
My point is that while I would say go play for the extra practice time, it could be detrimental to be the team that shouldn't have gotten in that got beat by the second worst bowl team in the country. I dont think that stigma along with a 5-8 record would help recruiting much.
edit - played in '94 graduated in '95
My point is that while I would say go play for the extra practice time, it could be detrimental to be the team that shouldn't have gotten in that got beat by the second worst bowl team in the country. I dont think that stigma along with a 5-8 record would help recruiting much.
edit - played in '94 graduated in '95
