I guess it matters how badly the state you govern is being hit by the virus. To me you cant have these blanket policies .. Whats fine for rural western NY isnt OK for NYC . Anyway I'd open Ky back April 27th . Schools , Sports , churches , restaurants time to open up .
If you are a Governor when you open things back up ?
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For KY:
Schools - closed until fall
Restaurants, Gyms, Barbers, small retail - First week of May (if not im rioting)
Churches - should probably stay closed for a while since they are proven hotspots for transmissions. If open would need to have plans for seating/communion/whatever.
Sports - hopefully football season will start on time, but who knows
Schools - closed until fall
Restaurants, Gyms, Barbers, small retail - First week of May (if not im rioting)
Churches - should probably stay closed for a while since they are proven hotspots for transmissions. If open would need to have plans for seating/communion/whatever.
Sports - hopefully football season will start on time, but who knows
Not yet - massive group meeting and events and concerts etc probably not till 2021
businesses I would slowly start opening up in middle may that can do it in small groups until widespread testing available
businesses I would slowly start opening up in middle may that can do it in small groups until widespread testing available
I'm just curious as to what the Governor wants to see in the data.
Yes, I understand flattening the curve and all that stuff...but most of the graphs he keeps showing are raw numbers. Those will most certainly continue to climb as we test more and more people, so the success or lack of of social distancing can't be measured by a graph of raw numbers that is mostly telling the story of how much we are testing, not whether we have slowed the spread of the virus. If that is the barometer this thing could go into the fall.
I know this isn't an original thought and smarter people within both state and federal circles are probably breaking down the numbers so that they do tell a more complete story.
Yes, I understand flattening the curve and all that stuff...but most of the graphs he keeps showing are raw numbers. Those will most certainly continue to climb as we test more and more people, so the success or lack of of social distancing can't be measured by a graph of raw numbers that is mostly telling the story of how much we are testing, not whether we have slowed the spread of the virus. If that is the barometer this thing could go into the fall.
I know this isn't an original thought and smarter people within both state and federal circles are probably breaking down the numbers so that they do tell a more complete story.
Quarantine the sick (obese, diabetic, cancerous, etc) and elderly and reopen society for the rest.
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I think this is a great way to frame the conversation. Politically there is an insane amount of risk and reward being early. If you are early and it's fine you become a legend, if you are early and it's a disaster you might as well leave politics forever. Most politicians won't say anything remotely controversial, so I expect everything to stay shutdown much longer than it should.
If I were Governor, I'd have some lame strategy of being the second gov to announce opening their state, but would actually open a week after the first state.
If I were Governor, I'd have some lame strategy of being the second gov to announce opening their state, but would actually open a week after the first state.
This Governor will likley be the last to do it. He's too busy chasing folks in parking lots.
Schools don't even matter at this point. Just shut it down until Fall.
Businesses.. probably June 1st, as much as it would suck. I was hoping for May 1st or even mid May, but just doesn't seem smart. There's no vaccine in sight, still running low on supplies, just don't see how we can go back to normal until we can keep flattening this thing out, and building reserves, for several more weeks.
Businesses.. probably June 1st, as much as it would suck. I was hoping for May 1st or even mid May, but just doesn't seem smart. There's no vaccine in sight, still running low on supplies, just don't see how we can go back to normal until we can keep flattening this thing out, and building reserves, for several more weeks.
Schools - out for the summer. One sick kid spreads it to his classmates and then 25+ families could be exposed.
Shopping - probably May. Keep the distancing measures in though. ‘
Other medical/dental/etc - whenever the availability of masks and cleaning stuff comes back around.
Restaurants - this is the tough one. Too many folks get their hands and/or mouths near your food, be it the cooks, servers, people at your table, people sitting close by. I don’t know the answer to that one.
Office stuff - work at home while you can.
Manufacturing/warehouse - I dunno. Seems like close quarters makes a possibly bad situation until it gets a little more under control.
Shopping - probably May. Keep the distancing measures in though. ‘
Other medical/dental/etc - whenever the availability of masks and cleaning stuff comes back around.
Restaurants - this is the tough one. Too many folks get their hands and/or mouths near your food, be it the cooks, servers, people at your table, people sitting close by. I don’t know the answer to that one.
Office stuff - work at home while you can.
Manufacturing/warehouse - I dunno. Seems like close quarters makes a possibly bad situation until it gets a little more under control.
I’d be listening to top doctors, scientists and whatever group of medical experts I had assembled to advise me. Then I’d go based on their recommendation, not a day sooner.
when I stop getting unemployment and that 6 hun a week stimulus....
Prob is the medical community cant agree what day it is . Serious , the " experts" are all over the map . There is no consensus and trials for a vaccine might take months. This cant continue much longer , unless you want to kiss what America used to look like goodbye -- thats happening anyway , with the hatred of our country on display from the democrat party. This crisis is only an excuse to see how much they can get away with . And its far far too much .
It is important to open this economy ASAP. Period. I grant you New York may be able to afford to stay in their little apartments but fly over country has to work. We need to produce. We can not afford for the food supply chain to go 3rd world on us. America can feed the world but the world can not feed us. If our food chain collapses there will be hell to pay around the world.
If we delay much longer you are going to see inflation go out of the roof. Pork suppliers are already feeling the pain If we have to pay $15.00 a pound for pork chops and $10 for a loaf of bread not having a runny nose will not mean much. Most of us have never gone hungry one day in our life. Continuing shutting down production may be popular in the medical profession but the consequences will make us forget coronavirus. Wait until you have to comfort a small child who is hungry and you can't afford groceries. And the USA can not help when there is no food on the shelf and our fields lay in waste.
Some parts of the nation can open schools now and open all parts of society. More states than not. So governors in those states should move forward now and open it up. Where I live we are on the brink of opening up and that includes our schools.
So to answer the question I open tomorrow at day break. The rest of the nation can make their decision as they see fit. Ranchers and farmers are ready to go.
If we delay much longer you are going to see inflation go out of the roof. Pork suppliers are already feeling the pain If we have to pay $15.00 a pound for pork chops and $10 for a loaf of bread not having a runny nose will not mean much. Most of us have never gone hungry one day in our life. Continuing shutting down production may be popular in the medical profession but the consequences will make us forget coronavirus. Wait until you have to comfort a small child who is hungry and you can't afford groceries. And the USA can not help when there is no food on the shelf and our fields lay in waste.
Some parts of the nation can open schools now and open all parts of society. More states than not. So governors in those states should move forward now and open it up. Where I live we are on the brink of opening up and that includes our schools.
So to answer the question I open tomorrow at day break. The rest of the nation can make their decision as they see fit. Ranchers and farmers are ready to go.
Agree. This current way cannot be sustained and they know it, they just don't care. All they want to do is use it to hurt Trump, which is beyond disgusting. People's lives and liveliehoods are at stake and they just want to keep making it hard on people.
KY Gov has been one of the worst imo.
Also, what's our breaking point? All numbers are dropping and will continue to drop as long as we do a great (but not perfect) job of social distancing. We are at, let's say 85% of s shutdown. We aren't at Italy or China levels, but we aren't doing what Sweden is doing either.
So if we keep offices WFH, close concerts and big gatherings for several months, can we open restaurants, stores and small businesses.. and STILL keep the virus at bay? Or does that cause it to ramp up. There's some invisible point, that no one knows, that if we keep certain things locked down, we can function normally. Have to find that point.
So if we keep offices WFH, close concerts and big gatherings for several months, can we open restaurants, stores and small businesses.. and STILL keep the virus at bay? Or does that cause it to ramp up. There's some invisible point, that no one knows, that if we keep certain things locked down, we can function normally. Have to find that point.
I am at high risk because of RA. So how long are you planning on keeping me locked up so you can go out and party?
The problem is the big cities where everyone is on top of each other. The whole country is having to live this way because of them. Look at the cases in rural areas and less populated areas. It's ridiculous to keep everything locked down.
Other countries are opening things back up and moving forward. But we have Governor's who are playing politics to hurt the POTUS and are using the opportunity to make a move.
Ther's a vaccine for the flu yet thousands die from it every year.
Not saying I agree with it. I just think so many have been frightened to the point of being over cautious.
I would think YOU'D want to stay in, no?.. No one is going to lock down the sick.. the hope is that they choose to take this a bit more seriously and with more caution.
Good point. I'm in Albany, only 2 hours north of the city. So New York definitely has a different response to this than many other states. I get that.
But, you can argue that what happened in NYS has caused ALL other states to start preparing in dozens of ways. If this hit Kentucky first, instead of Kentucky having a few weeks of lead time to prepare, does that change what the virus looks like in KY? I believe it does.
I do stay in as much as possible. My point is how long? Until vaccine is available? And that well may be the case, I guess. Just frustrated. I miss my friends and family.
NY and KY suffered their first deaths about the same day. Closed down about the same time as well.
So either way, the lockdown has helped KY a great deal. Could they open back up, and be fine, seeing as how that state is far less populated, both in total number and density, than NY? Maybe.
What really needs to be looked at is the results of states who took different or later action. TN and FL would be good ones to study - a couple days ago you couldn’t tell much difference from them being late to the party - TN death rate was much better than many many states.
Holy cow man just my thoughts no need to get crazy and personal like that Jesus chill out
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Schools no. No reason to. They don’t do crap the last couple of weeks if schools anyway. School is finished for the year.
It all goes back to trump. Good lord.
Where are the rural areas affected the most. Church gatherings.
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I really don't understand "Montana and Manhattan shouldn't be governed the same way, but if Montana ***** up authority goes to Washington DC"