If you are a Governor when you open things back up ?

[truebluewildcat_rivals34254]

Rolling openings

Parks n Rec, Gyms later this month or early in May

Barber shops, hair salons, massage parlors, etc...shortly after

Fast food and dine in restaurants ...Any other "non essential" types of businesses mid May

I would hold off on Bars, concert halls, etc till late May

I'd keep the actual physical structure/building Nursing homes closed...allow for outside visitation where people can keep their distance...revisit that late fall if there aren't any second round corona flare ups

Schools I would keep closed til next Spring or go half capacity...kids with last names A-L go Monday, Wednesday...M-Z go Tuesday thursday...

Going forward I think most businesses, activities, etc will for the most part return to normal without a whole lot of fuss or drastic change...Schools however need to really renovate how they do things. During good times school houses are cesspools.

I would look at giving all education employees and students, more sick days, and mandate that if you so much as cough or sneeze you do not come in until you've been cleared by the doctor via a full head to toe physical.

If I were the fed and dept. of Ed. I'd look into really redoing the calendar. Instead of 2-3 summer months off when generally most people are healthy...how about taking flu season off every year. November-March give or take.

Generally speaking, I think more and actual mandated sick time is key going forward for all industries. If you're sick, go home, work from home if you can, get cleared by a doctor before coming back.

 

[wkycatfan_rivals376690]

When is becomes a political disadvantage to keep things closed. #sarcasm

 

[bigsmoothie]

I think if the test to see if you had already had it could easily be done and people could see where they stood it would make s the difference.

 

[wildcat1973_rivals160373]

May 15. Gives the virus another full two 2-week cycles to work through the population.

At that point open up non-essential businesses with COVID guidelines.

No school until fall.

No sports crowds for another 90 days, with a goal of August 15, which gets into the fall sports cycle. Sports can operate before that but no crowds and with COVID guidelines.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

What really needs to be looked at is the results of states who took different or later action. TN and FL would be good ones to study - a couple days ago you couldn’t tell much difference from them being late to the party - TN death rate was much better than many many states.

I haven't been following those states closely, other than Florida being behind the ball on a lot of this. Can you elaborate?

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Rolling openings

Parks n Rec, Gyms later this month or early in May

Barber shops, hair salons, massage parlors, etc...shortly after

Fast food and dine in restaurants ...Any other "non essential" types of businesses mid May

I would hold off on Bars, concert halls, etc till late May

I'd keep the actual physical structure/building Nursing homes closed...allow for outside visitation where people can keep their distance...revisit that late fall if there aren't any second round corona flare ups

Schools I would keep closed til next Spring or go half capacity...kids with last names A-L go Monday, Wednesday...M-Z go Tuesday thursday...

Going forward I think most businesses, activities, etc will for the most part return to normal without a whole lot of fuss or drastic change...Schools however need to really renovate how they do things. During good times school houses are cesspools.

I would look at giving all education employees and students, more sick days, and mandate that if you so much as cough or sneeze you do not come in until you've been cleared by the doctor via a full head to toe physical.

If I were the fed and dept. of Ed. I'd look into really redoing the calendar. Instead of 2-3 summer months off when generally most people are healthy...how about taking flu season off every year. November-March give or take.

Generally speaking, I think more and actual mandated sick time is key going forward for all industries. If you're sick, go home, work from home if you can, get cleared by a doctor before coming back.

Gyms are going to be a tough call. I personally won't be going to one anytime soon. I can get most of my workout done from home. When you think of the pools, locker rooms, gym equipment that hasn't been wiped down, and sweat molecules.. no thanks.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Bars and restaurants are going to be the important one. That's a huge work force and something that honestly will help improve mental health. If you can get those open, and possibly cap the # of patrons, it will go a long way into make this bearable. A lot of people won't mind things being shut down and social distancing most of the time, if they can get out for a beer.

 

[truebluewildcat_rivals34254]

Gyms are going to be a tough call. I personally won't be going to one anytime soon. I can get most of my workout done from home. When you think of the pools, locker rooms, gym equipment that hasn't been wiped down, and sweat molecules.. no thanks.

Oh for sure...

However, the one argument for gyms is that they had pretty strict cleaning/sanitizing mandates prior to corona...then in addition to what they have to do, patrons have easy access to disinfectant spray bottles to wipe down workout stations.

Also, though it is not scientific, I am banking on most people at the gym being healthy generally speaking because they're obviously fitness types but also because I know when I'm sick I don't go to gym because I just don't feel well nor have the energy.

Gym at the end of the day is an option...you don't have to go, especially if you are sick...

School and work on the other hand, are a must and people go even if they are sick for fear of missing school or missing work (pay)...

I would however like to make an addendum...the high risk demographics should be highly encouraged to avoid gyms for the time being, or maybe gyms could have an old-timers block of the day where only the elderly can come...

 

[anon_q409idbs5m40a]

Gyms are going to be a tough call. I personally won't be going to one anytime soon. I can get most of my workout done from home. When you think of the pools, locker rooms, gym equipment that hasn't been wiped down, and sweat molecules.. no thanks.

Right about this. Oddly enough, about a month before the virus hit I read an article about how gyms are the worst venue to pick up all kinds of viruses and related illnesses, such as the flu and colds. I've seen repeated instances in the gym where I go with guys not washing their hands after using the restroom then lifting weights with no gloves.

 

[UKGrad93]

A lot depends on our ability to test and trace people that become sick and our ability for hospitals to handle the influx of patients.

Right now a lot of hospitals are going broke and are somewhat empty. Let them start with bringing back some elective surgeries that have been put off.

Businesses need to follow guidelines of X people per square foot (not sure what that number should be).

No mass gatherings until the curve has been flat for a few months. Even then, probably adhere to a rule of how many people per square foot.

We also need to continue evaluating the usefulness of wearing masks and face shields.

Or

F*** it. We all gotta die sometime. Open it back up. Based on the numbers, 95% will survive. Mostly older people will die, thus solving our SS problem. More higher level jobs become open for the younger generation to move up to. A good number of younger people will die, it every generation must make sacrifices.

 

[truebluewildcat_rivals34254]

Another key thing is the fact that for the most part a wide swath of the middle of the country can probably get going sooner and lax "social distancing" sooner than the port cities and metropolises on the coasts.

I think the coasts probably should be kept on pretty tight "social distancing" protocol through the end of the year.

No travel to and from. No major events, gatherings...if sports resume they need to move games away from the coasts and big cities.

Their nursing homes and highly susceptible demographics need to be very closely regulated and watched til next spring.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

Not saying I agree with it. I just think so many have been frightened to the point of being over cautious.

I completely agree with that.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

Good point. I'm in Albany, only 2 hours north of the city. So New York definitely has a different response to this than many other states. I get that.

But, you can argue that what happened in NYS has caused ALL other states to start preparing in dozens of ways. If this hit Kentucky first, instead of Kentucky having a few weeks of lead time to prepare, does that change what the virus looks like in KY? I believe it does.

The problem in NYC is the Mayor there. Completely unprepared and unable to take care of his city. He was seen on live TV a few weeks before telling people it's not that big of a deal and anyone under 50 would be safe. For people to still go out and live their normal lives. How completely irresponsible? He should be held accountable for his actions and words. Yet nary a thing.
We do have all of these so called "reporters" blaming all of this on Trump. The Mayor of NYC should be impeached out of office for incompetence.
Our media is completely useless and untrustworthy.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

The problem in NYC is the Mayor there. Completely unprepared and unable to take care of his city. He was seen on live TV a few weeks before telling people it's not that big of a deal and anyone under 50 would be safe. For people to still go out and live their normal lives. How completely irresponsible? He should be held accountable for his actions and words. Yet nary a thing.
We do have all of these so called "reporters" blaming all of this on Trump. The Mayor of NYC should be impeached out of office for incompetence.
Our media is completely useless and untrustworthy.

Eh, I'm conservative, and I think he's done a pretty good job. Most of New York agrees, even my fellow repubs. Now, I don't like his policies, not sure I'd ever vote for him. But by and large, the nation is impressed with him. He's able to talk to the people better than Trump can, and aside from fighting with Trump, Cuomo has kept his cool.

Every politician, on both sides, was downplaying this thing a month ago. What annoys me most is that the MSM seems to just harp on the republicans that down play it. So I agree, Cuomo and other NY leaders were no different. I wish the media would call this out more.

But NYC had to shut down, and even the outlying areas as well.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

It all goes back to trump. Good lord.

I know, far be it from the media to blame all of this on Trump.....amirite?

They begged him to shut the country down.....he did

Now he is talking of opening it back up.....you can't do that you have no right....clowns

They were more upset over him calling the Chinese virus....they are the problem

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

Where are the rural areas affected the most. Church gatherings.[/QUOTE
But State parks and gold courses are good to go though right? Just only recently decided to address that. Those were open daily until just a few days ago.
That allowed out of state travel. Wonder which one put more people at risk, church meeting once a week or parks and golf courses that were open daily?

 

[Spica Orbit]

Restaurants - this is the tough one. Too many folks get their hands and/or mouths near your food, be it the cooks, servers, people at your table, people sitting close by. I don’t know the answer to that one.

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You don't have to worry about the food at restaurants, it's a respiratory virus, you can't get it by eating prepared food. It's the people sitting near you that you need to worry about. And the servers, if they cough or sneeze, but if they have symptoms like those, they shouldn't be working anyway.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

Do a test area.......... whats the most disposable part of KY to you guys? open that region up and see how big the wave gets .......... if its minimal ... then open up another region of the state or the rest of the state.

The question is......... would you guys shut things down again if there is a good sized wave of cases and deaths or just say eff em .... who cares?

 

[LadyCaytIL]

@Cawood86

when there is an outbreak from a golf course or state park........ then shut it down. There have been many outbreaks from churches across the country.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

Eh, I'm conservative, and I think he's done a pretty good job. Most of New York agrees, even my fellow repubs. Now, I don't like his policies, not sure I'd ever vote for him. But by and large, the nation is impressed with him. He's able to talk to the people better than Trump can, and aside from fighting with Trump, Cuomo has kept his cool.

Every politician, on both sides, was downplaying this thing a month ago. What annoys me most is that the MSM seems to just harp on the republicans that down play it. So I agree, Cuomo and other NY leaders were no different. I wish the media would call this out more.

But NYC had to shut down, and even the outlying areas as well.

I'm not arguing NYC didn't need to shut down. They just have awful leadership.

I have a problem with a Governor having the State Police go write down people's license number and give them an order of quarantine and use that as a threat.

That's too far.

 

[wildcat1973_rivals160373]

The question is......... would you guys shut things down again if there is a good sized wave of cases and deaths or just say eff em .... who cares?

We were told by our Governors that we were Sheltering-in-Place to flatten the curve. Well, the curve is flattening. And once it has flattened, then they should open back up the economy (with restrictions of course). Otherwise, they were lying to us the whole time and there was a bigger agenda than just “flatten the curve”.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

@Cawood86

when there is an outbreak from a golf course or state park........ then shut it down. There have been many outbreaks from churches across the country.

How do you nothing happened from parks or golf courses?

 

[LadyCaytIL]

How do you nothing happened from parks or golf courses?

The same way they can trace it to a walmart or church.... they ask you a ton of questions on how you might of gotten it. and the gov or news would of mentioned an outbreak from a golf course or park.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

We were told by our Governors that we were Sheltering-in-Place to flatten the curve. Well, the curve is flattening. And once it has flattened, then they should open back up the economy (with restrictions of course). Otherwise, they were lying to us the whole time and there was a bigger agenda than just “flatten the curve”.

if you open it up too soon, it will no longer be a flattening... but instead curving back upwards with new spike in cases. They want to be on the declining end before they risk things.

 

[bigsmoothie]

The problem in NYC is the Mayor there. Completely unprepared and unable to take care of his city. He was seen on live TV a few weeks before telling people it's not that big of a deal and anyone under 50 would be safe. For people to still go out and live their normal lives. How completely irresponsible? He should be held accountable for his actions and words. Yet nary a thing.
We do have all of these so called "reporters" blaming all of this on Trump. The Mayor of NYC should be impeached out of office for incompetence.
Our media is completely useless and untrustworthy.

Man the president said several times it was nothing, would be gone in a few days, warm weather would knock it out, have only 15 cases and in a few days it will be zero. He should be held accountable for this. Purposely downplayed it. Or didn’t care.

 

[Spica Orbit]

Man the president said several times it was nothing, would be gone in a few days, warm weather would knock it out, have only 15 cases and in a few days it will be zero. He should be held accountable for this. Purposely downplayed it. Or didn’t care.

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Watch CNN much? The medical experts said the same thing.

 

[bigsmoothie]

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Watch CNN much? The medical experts said the same thing.

No I don’t. You must though

 

[bigsmoothie]

I'm not arguing NYC didn't need to shut down. They just have awful leadership.

I have a problem with a Governor having the State Police go write down people's license number and give them an order of quarantine and use that as a threat.

That's too far.

But it not too far for certain churches to ignore the governor and hold services? Get that money.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

The same way they can trace it to a walmart or church.... they ask you a ton of questions on how you might of gotten it. and the gov or news would of mentioned an outbreak from a golf course or park.

SO they traced down all of the out town visitors and talked to all of them? Mammoth Cave alone has visitors from everywhere.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

SO they traced down all of the out town visitors and talked to all of them? Mammoth Cave alone has visitors from everywhere.

who is coming into Kentucky to visit a state park or golf course at a time like this? and they shut mammoth cave down early on.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

Man the president said several times it was nothing, would be gone in a few days, warm weather would knock it out, have only 15 cases and in a few days it will be zero. He should be held accountable for this. Purposely downplayed it. Or didn’t care.

I believe Trump baneed travel from China in January. Blasio was seen on TV in Feb making his claims that I stated earlier. There were no cases in the virus in the US until mid January. I would say that's a fairly quick response.

 

[bigsmoothie]

I believe Trump baneed travel from China in January. Blasio was seen on TV in Feb making his claims that I stated earlier. There were no cases in the virus in the US until mid January. I would say that's a fairly quick response.

I give up. If you can’t see I can’t make you see it.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

But it not too far for certain churches to ignore the governor and hold services? Get that money.

Get what money?

 

[Tannerdad]

Mamouth Cave is closed. Has been for a while.
Parks are closed. The cabins in the Ky state parks are being used to house healthcare workers.
Golf courses are open(thank God) with a ton of restrictions applied to them.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

Get what money?

its called Tithe

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

who is coming into Kentucky to visit a state park or golf course at a time like this? and they shut mammoth cave down early on.

Late March I believe. I don't know who would but people did.

 

[WildcatFan1982]

if Memorial Day passes and we can't have BBQs I'm going to be very upset.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

I give up. If you can’t see I can’t make you see it.

Did I get the dates wrong?

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

its called Tithe

Oh, so you think all these churches were just having out to get money......[jumpingsmile].

Why were liquor stores allowed to be left open then?

 

[Tannerdad]

Late March I believe. I don't know who would but people did.

Yep. Dale Hollow campground received complaints because of a large amount of campers, including some cars with NY plates. It was closed down soon after.