If you are a Governor when you open things back up ?
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Lol, the Midwest Pact is dead. We're dead in the water. Everywhere around is a month ahead if not more. No reasonable explanation at this point.
Kentucky has been reporting inflated ICU numbers the last week or so. They weren’t getting discharge info. 98 in ICU as of today. 4.5 million pop.
How much confidence does this bring you??
We are shut down due to a health crisis and our government doesn’t know how many current icu or hospitalized people from said health crisis...[laughing]
We are shut down due to a health crisis and our government doesn’t know how many current icu or hospitalized people from said health crisis...[laughing]
You cant make this **** up. Herd the sheep into their own quarantine pen and let the rest of us get back to living our lives. Beshear has been a complete clown.
I had looked at every post that Crawford made with the numbers and was getting worried about how many were in ICU. IHME shows we have 449 ICU beds. Monday's number was 277 in ICU. I mean if you were the Governor wouldn't that be something that would scare you. Now it is at 98. This is the guy that is deciding when things start back up.
You’d think that’d be something as Governor you’d request to have in the morning and right before your press conference...how many in, how many out. That’s the first thing.
But if you’re not doing that, you’d think some alarm bells would be ringing as ICU numbers continue to rise day 60 of lockdown.......
Here is what Eric Crawford had reported each day in May:
5/20-98
5/19-269
5/18-277
5/15-218
5/14-220
5/13-215
5/12-215
5/11-220
5/8-210
5/7-199
5/6-190
5/5-189
5/1-178
I mean if it was going up every day you would think that it would sound an alarm. I was wondering why the hell more wasn't being made of 277 in ICU. I was thinking to myself are we in trouble in Kentucky? Why are there so many in ICU.
What irks me is ICU beds were a key resource for flattening the curve and it wasn't even tracked that closely.
ICU and currently hospitalized were the 2 numbers I have been paying attention to the most since I realized the total positive and death numbers fluctuated with the amount of tests for the day. I'm sure Raggedy Andy had some goofy look on his face when he announced the screwup.
This is basically a hoax. The virus is not a hoax- the reaction is, time to open henceforth.
We’ve been duped. And I mean the voters in Kentucky. Myself included. Duped. Super duped.
Thing is most people haven't taken the 20-30 minutes to do minimal research to cross reference the horse **** they're being fed by our politicians and the media. So they just eat it up and are terrified.
Read 2 or 3 pages of the China virus thread and if you're still skeptical, you're a hypochondriac.
Read 2 or 3 pages of the China virus thread and if you're still skeptical, you're a hypochondriac.
Looking at this shows that it wasn’t a one week overlook. Wtf were they ever looking at/doing? How long have they been doing this?
Not sure what would be worse - the incompetence or purposefully misinforming the public.
From yesterday...the guy had absolutely no idea:
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Pretty clear that a gubernatorial recall bill or amendment should be introduced in Kentucky. He’s a travesty.
It's just further proof that Andy Dad Jeans was a fish out of water in dealing with this, as was Mayor Gorton. Given the #'s that Lex has had for weeks, we are wayyyyyy behind the recovery curve, and quite a few businesses and restaurants are already locking the doors permanently. That may not have happened a couple of weeks ago.
Andy adjusting dates for various activities is another sign he has received pressure from higher powers and/or organizations that are feeling the financial pinch. The Ky Restaurant Assoc. blasted him a couple of days ago for the 33% capacity plan, so I think that will jump up to 50% or be nixed altogether soon, especially since Tennessee went that route.
From my understanding. The FMC prisoners in Lexington, being treated at UK, is the reason for their spike. These are critically ill patients, who may not even make it. UK was tracking less than 10 inpatients all along, but after the prison outbreaks, they're currently at 29, and have been for last 2 weeks. Also, the LTC patients that UK has had, they aren't allowing them to return to the LTC, so they just sit at UK waiting...again, artificially inflating the numbers.
Have some of the wings and fresh pork rinds for me. And a few beers.Against the Grain is opening back up this weekend. So happy
Our region in New York is in Phase 1. Already planned a trip to the Adirondacks in late June. Time to reopen.
That is the plan. They are only opening their patio and it's gonna storm on Saturday. So the second I'm off work tomorrow I'm driving down there. And since they actually know what they are doing when it comes to beer the drafts will be good. When I went out last Saturday the restaurant only had budweiser on tap because the rest of their kegs were dead.
Small business owners and people in general are fed up. NYC group of 300 businesses are opening tomorrow. Ha. Good form them. Their Government made mistakes dealing with the virus and they're the ones paying for it.
https://www.pix11.com/news/coronavi...ers-plan-to-reopen-with-or-without-permission
https://www.pix11.com/news/coronavi...ers-plan-to-reopen-with-or-without-permission
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I say again, his handling of this and the actual running of the government has been the worst in the nation.
Terrible testing which cost lives in LTC facilities. Especially early on. Terrible delivery of unemployment benefits. Highest unemployment rate in the country. No re-opening plan. Completely arbitrary decisions. Lake Barkley and Cumberland Lodges must remain closed? To house "low acuity patients"? WTF? Neither facility has ever had more than six people staying in them at one time. A complete joke.
Terrible testing which cost lives in LTC facilities. Especially early on. Terrible delivery of unemployment benefits. Highest unemployment rate in the country. No re-opening plan. Completely arbitrary decisions. Lake Barkley and Cumberland Lodges must remain closed? To house "low acuity patients"? WTF? Neither facility has ever had more than six people staying in them at one time. A complete joke.
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Cincinnati is allowing wedding receptions and banquets up to 300 people on June 1. WTF is the point in even limiting it if you’re letting 300 people in a room. It’s really all about control at this point and keeping some ridiculous sense of danger in people’s minds. Can’t just let them get back to life as it was or they might suspect the restrictions were worthless from the get go.
Look, I've been critical of a lot of the actions, especially arbitrary ones by Governor Beshear. But there is VERY VERY strong empirical and real evidence that large gatherings accelerate the spread. Especially those where signing/yelling happens. There is the famous AC Milan soccer match where 30,000 out of the 80,000 people ended up with it. The countless church services accross the country where dozens of people get the viruses.
We can have these events, but we have to be VERY smart about it. Wearing a mask to the store probably doesn't help much. Wearing a mask to these events where the spread is through the air by talking/yelling/singing is is helpful.
Ohio/IN opening back up pools, bars, large gatherings, restaurants 50%, etc.
Ky won't have pools at all, bars until July, 50 person gatherings until July, unfeasible Day Care restrictions starting June 15th.
Oh... and our UE pool just ran out so we're going to have to borrow money from the fed. Lol.
Just a reminder we're still averaging less deaths than normal for this time of year.
Midwest Pact
Ky won't have pools at all, bars until July, 50 person gatherings until July, unfeasible Day Care restrictions starting June 15th.
Oh... and our UE pool just ran out so we're going to have to borrow money from the fed. Lol.
Just a reminder we're still averaging less deaths than normal for this time of year.
Midwest Pact
So got the guidelines today for when I get my hair cut
stay in my car until they call me to come in
wear mask
once I enter building they will take my temperature while “maintaining social distance” if that’s even possible
try not to have too much conversation
damn [roll]
stay in my car until they call me to come in
wear mask
once I enter building they will take my temperature while “maintaining social distance” if that’s even possible
try not to have too much conversation
damn [roll]
800,000 unemployment claims and many cant get paid, confusing rules on reopening, and we cant even track a couple hundred people in the ICU properly. The shine is starting to wear off of Beshear, he is now more middle of the pack in approval rating after being at the top initially, I expect that to drop significantly the as time goes on and the impact of his decisions really start to show. Just got an email today that our neighborhood pool isn't going to reopen because is isn't considered an 'aquatic center' lol, that's going to go over really well.
While our CC pool is not opening up this weekend I have a feeling they will just say eff it and find a way to do it before long from what I hear. Good. Won’t be the only one.
....and as an elite youth football coach by gawd that dweeb better have the sports handcuffs taken off. America draws the line at football, period.
Show’s over, Andy.
....and as an elite youth football coach by gawd that dweeb better have the sports handcuffs taken off. America draws the line at football, period.
Show’s over, Andy.
That’s easy to say, but it costs money to open back up at the risk of losing your ability to do business, then having to pay to defend yourself.
People talk about Cameron like he’s the second coming, but where the hell is he in all this? He was only involved in lawsuits so far when he was sued. As incompetent as Beshear is at being governor, he was pretty damn good at being a pain in Bevin’s ***.
Being named as a defendant in a lawsuit and petitioning to switch sides is much, much different than what Beshear was doing. If Cameron is just waiting around sitting on his *** until people sue him while Beshear destroys KY, I don’t get the hype.
Good points, although I do believe Cameron is trending upward because of these court wins. They carry a lot of weight.
I am more disheartened by Thayer and the Republican super majority who had the ability to negate some of these "decisions" that Dad Jeans made, especially with the KY Restaurant Association bleeding out as a result of the delays and % capacity rules.
I’m not really one to defend the actions of the Kentucky legislature, and certainly not Thayer, but under Kentucky law, don’t they have to be called into session by the governor if they’re going to meet and do anything?
I suspect the KY legislature and Cameron are OK letting Beshear hang himself from a political standpoint. That’s the exact opposite type of leadership we need in a time like this. Get the state back on track and the politics will work themselves out.
If you're expecting Cameron to act like a petulant child running to the principal's office every time the Governor makes a decision, similar to his predecessor, you're going to be disappointed. Cameron is McConnell's apprentice. He's only going to pick fights he can win. Not to mention until recently most of the Governor's decisions were heavily supported, so trying to make a move wasn't the best idea.