If you are a Governor when you open things back up ?

anthonys735

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The BCTC site had openings when I looked a few days ago. I'd like an antibody test since I was traveling a lot during the winter, had a bit of a cold, and I've been in the office everyday.
 
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Andy has consistently stated that anyone who wants a test can get a test.

Antibody tests have to be ordered by your doc...I had one last week and am waiting on the results.

Andy has been wrong when he's said that.

We've got huge swaths of our state with no "on demand" testing or drive up testing. Nursing home operators have asked for a month to test all staff weekly and were told no. Andy announced last week that we would test all nursing home workers "over the next two months". What a joke.
 
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I just think it’s funny how much he complained about Tennessee but overall they are doing better than Kentucky.

It's really embarrassing. And it's sad the media didn't call him out for it. He did that and then turns around and tells people to stop the politics.

The work Bill Lee did in Tennessee saved lives. They protected their nursing homes with testing, testing and more testing.
 

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Andy can’t even publish guidelines for restaurants to reopen when all he needs to do is plagiarize another state’s guidelines. I would expect widespread testing anytime soon.
 
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It's really embarrassing. And it's sad the media didn't call him out for it. He did that and then turns around and tells people to stop the politics.

The work Bill Lee did in Tennessee saved lives. They protected their nursing homes with testing, testing and more testing.
I expect the University of Tennessee students to report to classes in August and their football team ready for kickoff. Their Senator, Lamar Alexander pretty much said that in the senate hearing this morning.

I wish Kentucky's governor would make a similar statement. Get the students on campus and get the team on the practice field this summer. Quit messing around and delaying. One thing is for sure, if Kentucky had a red state governor you would be the equal of Tennessee and Florida when it comes to handling this pandemic. But.....
 
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BernieSadori

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Weeks ago.

Restaurant (Verbena) in my neighborhood closed down for good due to Candy's policies.

Places can do the right thing without having someone destroying their livelihood. We aren't living in an either/or world.
 

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I'm sorry (not really), but if you get tested today, and it comes back negative...great. You are negative for that moment in time. Testing means dick at this point. We need the anti-body testing ramping up. FFS.
 
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I'm sorry (not really), but if you get tested today, and it comes back negative...great. You are negative for that moment in time. Testing means dick at this point. We need the anti-body testing ramping up. FFS.
We need it to ramp up with clarification that it's 80% accurate and only for non-symptomatic or previously symptomatic.
 
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I'm sorry (not really), but if you get tested today, and it comes back negative...great. You are negative for that moment in time. Testing means dick at this point. We need the anti-body testing ramping up. FFS.

Wrong. Testing is very helpful when making decisions about whether events should occur and the general risk of overcrowding hospitals. that's the point of the testing. Not to make everybody think that they're safe forever. But to asses the current risk in whether or not you have a large outbreak, testing is very important. Since most cases are spread by people who don't have symptoms, if somebody finds out they have it three days earlier they spend 3 fewer days spreading it.

Mass anti-body testing would be nice to have. Sure. But it's only helpful in figuring out if a community had an outbreak.
 

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Antibody testing would provide a better idea of true denominator and help preparation and planning...provide knowledge of what, how and when things truly happened.

We currently know tons of numerators - tested positive cases, hospitalization, icu, intubation, deaths...we do not have (in KY) a good idea of the denominator and how wide spread (or not), this was.
 
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Antibody testing would provide a better idea of true denominator and help preparation and planning...provide knowledge of what, how and when things truly happened.

We currently know tons of numerators - tested positive cases, hospitalization, icu, intubation, deaths...we do not have (in KY) a good idea of the denominator and how wide spread (or not), this was.

You can extrapolate out estimates of the spread based on other anti-body studies. But the reality is that even the "studies" coming out are not truly "random". They're testing people who seek it out or ask for it. Understanding the motives of those people is impossible.

If we apply the California estimate of 10x we still really haven't had that wide of an outbreak in KY.
 

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I'm sorry (not really), but if you get tested today, and it comes back negative...great. You are negative for that moment in time. Testing means dick at this point. We need the anti-body testing ramping up. FFS.
Bingo.
 

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Testing in Ohio isn’t that easy either. Had an employee who’s bf had a fever and was feeling sick. Told her we needed him to get tested - they drove around the city to multiple “drive thrus” and they wouldn’t test. Finally had an employees husband who runs an urgent care test him. I live in Columbus too. Widespread testing just isn’t here yet - I’d say probably middle of June.
 

anthonys735

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Like I said... no guidance. Which is so reckless because now they're all going to be rushing to meet the recommendations rather than prepared.

 
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Bill Cosby

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Like I said... no guidance. Which is so reckless because now they're all going to be rushing to meet the recommendations rather than prepared.



Meanwhile Ohio restaurants are popping back up on open table and I have reservations across the river for the next three weekends because no one in KY has any idea what’s going on.
 
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It might help if you were constructive or comment on the actual issues, regardless of your opinion, rather than always make a snarky remark.
I might take that comment serious if It came from anyone else. Thanks for the laugh.
 

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Very smart of Florida to open up their state for pro sports. They will bounce back much quicker than Kentucky will. I’m worried about our huge unemployment rate in an already poor state and how long it is going to take us to recover.
 

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Very smart of Florida to open up their state for pro sports. They will bounce back much quicker than Kentucky will. I’m worried about our huge unemployment rate in an already poor state and how long it is going to take us to recover.
Whether it is smart or not remains to be seen.
 

CatsFanGG24

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Age 50 and under is 63% of the KY population, 53% of the positive cases and 3% of the deaths.

187 nursing home residents dead - 58%

80 and over - 4% of total pop, 9% of cases and 52% of deaths.

The data shows a clear way to safely and securely open up work.
 

bigsmoothie

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Age 50 and under is 63% of the KY population, 53% of the positive cases and 3% of the deaths.

187 nursing home residents dead - 58%

80 and over - 4% of total pop, 9% of cases and 52% of deaths.

The data shows a clear way to safely and securely open up work.
Do you realize a huge part of the numbers being low are because of the things we have done.
 

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Do you realize a huge part of the numbers being low are because of the things we have done.
I don't realize that.

But I guarantee that garlic protects against vampires. I always have garlic around and haven't been bothered by a vampire, ever. See, it works.
 
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WildcatofNati

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I'm more interesting in knowing how this happened in nursing homes. This is bad. These places should have been protected. Who dropped the ball?
 

CatsFanGG24

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Do you realize a huge part of the numbers being low are because of the things we have done.
My numbers were proportional and percentages, not counts...so basically it has nothing to do with keeping the total counts low or high - it’s about how it effects the population and how you can move forward smartly.

The early shutdown is not really apparent in our death toll anyways - TN who was later than us and called out for being a bad example has 50 less deaths.
 

WildcatofNati

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The people who downplayed it from the very beginning.
Nonsense. Those people aren't responsible for the failure to protect the vulnerable in nursing homes. In New York, it's all on Cuomo. In Kentucky, I don't know who bears the blame, but I do know where the buck generally stops.