If you give me Liberty, I will take Death...

dawgstudent · Nov 22, 2010

Yes, I am being picky.

dawgstudent · Nov 22, 2010

Yes, I am being picky.

dawgstudent · Nov 22, 2010

Yes, I am being picky.

jcdawgman18 · Nov 22, 2010

Win and go to Atlanta (most likely). Lose and we're walking in Memphis. Wouldn't be anybody's fault but our own.

dawgstudent · Nov 22, 2010

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jcdawgman18 · Nov 22, 2010

ETA: I'm embarrassed by this reply fail.

ExtremeDog · Nov 22, 2010

jcdawgman18 · Nov 22, 2010

It's only when you have 2 more wins that rules kick in to help you out.

bullysleftnut · Nov 22, 2010

if we lose the Egg Bowl then we *deserve* the Liberty Bowl.

And after the ****-tastic seasons we've had the last 10 years (sans 2007) I'll take it with a smile.

8dog · Nov 22, 2010

I know a team with 1 fewer loss can jump a team, but I haven't seen where a team with 2 fewer losses cannot jump a team.

FlabLoser · Nov 22, 2010

In a few months "we" (and by "we", I mean dawgstudent) go from "we should be able to make a bowl game" to "we're only accepting invites from good bowls". We are Sixpackspeak.com!

UpTheMiddlex3Punt · Nov 22, 2010

Sounds like a pretty good game.

FlabLoser · Nov 22, 2010

When Music City snubs us, we'll all have to boycott country music. (I'd still hit Faith Hill and pretty much every other female country singer though)

8dog · Nov 22, 2010

or been put in place to prevent that very thing.

Goat Holder II · Nov 22, 2010

Only thing I would argue is that the SEC West is so stacked this year. Either way, you still have to beat a 4-7 Ole Miss teams if you think you are deserving of the Peach Bowl.

8dog · Nov 22, 2010

You think if we go 7-5 with 4 losses to teams in the top 12 we should get jumped by TN at 6-6? Or Ky at 7-5 though we beat them?

boomboommsu · Nov 22, 2010

nm

dawgstudent · Nov 22, 2010

I am being picky.

ckDOG · Nov 22, 2010

Of course I'm glad we are bowl eligible this year. Post-LSU game ckDOG would probably kick my *** for being picky about bowl games at all. However, times have changed quite a bit since September 18 when we were 1 - 2. Our only losses are against high quality teams. We can compete against solid competition - there is no doubt about it. I want a chance at a game that will turn some heads around the country and establish some confidence going into next year should we win. A game against an average CUSA team will not give us that chance.

Sorry for being picky, but the Liberty Bowl can kiss my arse this year.

FlabLoser · Nov 22, 2010

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MedDawg · Nov 22, 2010

SMU and Tulsa have good offenses and not very good defenses.

Our best hope would be for UCF to lose to Memphis so USM goes to and wins theConference USA championship game, then USM heads to the Liberty Bowl. I think the SEC/CUSA deal keeps MSU/UM from playing USM in the Liberty Bowl.

Of course we have a better chance of going to the Sugar Bowl than Memphis beating UCF.Just beat OM this weekend and we will not have to worry about it. Worst case for us then would be Gator or Music City.

PBRME · Nov 22, 2010

bullysleftnut said:
if we lose the Egg Bowl then we *deserve* the Liberty Bowl.

And after the ****-tastic seasons we've had the last 10 years (sans 2007) I'll take it with a smile.

My words exactly.

o_1984Dawg · Nov 22, 2010

If we're 7-5 we'll be going to Music City or Gator. Not Memphis.

nashdog · Nov 22, 2010

Page 9 - bowl invitations.

Per NCAA Bylaw 30.9.2.1 an institution with a record of six wins and six losses may be
selected for participation in a bowl game if 1) the institution or its conference has a primary
contractual affiliation, which existed prior to the first contest of the applicable season, with
the sponsoring bowl organization. In the case of a conference contractual affiliation, all
conference teams with winning records must be placed in one of the contracted bowl games
before any institution with a record of six wins and six losses may be placed in a contracted
bowl game; and 2) all contractual affiliations have been fulfilled and all institutions with
winning records have received bowl invitations (either through a contractual affiliation or
as an at-large selection).
In the case of a conference contractual affiliation, all conference teams with winning
records must be placed in one of the contracted bowl games before any institution with a
record of six wins and six losses may be placed in a contracted bowl game. There shall be
no contingency agreements with other sponsoring bowl organizations intended to enable an
institution with a record of six wins and six losses to become eligible for those contests.

http://web1.ncaa.org/web_.../2009/09_PS_Football.pdf

tenureplan · Nov 22, 2010

We were 7-5 then and went to the Liberty.

state5 · Nov 22, 2010

Were we not 6-6 going into the bowl game?

tenureplan · Nov 22, 2010

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boomboommsu · Nov 22, 2010

I don't think that would apply to any bowl picks that are made "concurrently", which would be the Cotton/Outback and the Liberty/Birmingham, which shouldn't matter for us.

8dog · Nov 22, 2010

despite the fact that the rule seems to be written exactly so that a 6 win team can't jump a 7 win team, read this from last year:

http://www.columbiatribune.com/weblogs/behind-the-stripes/2009/nov/27/more-on-the-bowls/

That has to be the most poorly worded bylaw ever.

o_1984Dawg · Nov 22, 2010

BCS NC: LSU, 11-2
Sugar: UGA, 10-2
Capitol One: UF, 9-3
Cotton: Ark, 8-4
Outback: UT, 9-4
Peach: Auburn, 8-4
Music City: UK, 7-5
Liberty: MSU, 7-5
Independence: Bama, 6-6

AND South Carolina stayed home at 6-6.

I'm not saying MSU will never go to the Liberty Bowl again at 7-5. I'm saying we're not going to wind up there by being jumped by three 6-6 teams.

boomboommsu · Nov 22, 2010

or supposedly gave us an invite on here.

with that invite, the SEC can place any 6-6 team ahead of us, per "...and all institutions with winning records have received bowl invitations....".

i'm sure the SEC encouraged the Liberty to do that, setting Tenn and GA up to pass us.

Topgundawg · Nov 22, 2010

with all this bowl specific ****. If we move to the WAC we could be playing for a BCS bid. But who in the hell would want to go to our stadium and get a dose of 7 Alcorn State match ups. We will have our hands full with the Black Bears of the North. I still have not got that taste out of my mouth from the last time we played up there.

If we go to the Liberty I will be one proud Dawg. If we go to Nashville or Atlanta I will be just as proud. We have had a hell of a season no matter what happens Saturday.

Lets go kick ***.....

Go Dawgs.

McDawg · Nov 22, 2010

1. Fat Alabama chick on top of you, smothering you
2. Drunk Ole Miss fan hitting you on the head with his vodka bottle
3. Heart attack from too much pork
4. Delusional Auburn groupie thinking you really didn't say you'd take death beating you like a crazy fool
5. Other

Topgundawg · Nov 22, 2010

nashdog · Nov 22, 2010

I'm assuming this is written with the intent that no Conference Team get left out in the cold, rather than governing a selection order. So for example if our conference only had 7 slots, UGA and TN couldn't be selected instead of us, but if there are enough bowls, then it doesn't matter.

gravedigger · Nov 22, 2010

In the case of a conference contractual affiliation, all conference teams with winning
records must be placed in one of the contracted bowl games before any institution with a
record of six wins and six losses may be placed in a contracted bowl game. There shall be
no contingency agreements with other sponsoring bowl organizations intended to enable an
institution with a record of six wins and six losses to become eligible for those contests

Sounds like to me the invite isnt enough. the team must be PLACED.

goldeneye · Nov 22, 2010

According to BDJ, the SEC has diff rules. A team can not jump another team with 2 more wins than them. So basically a 6 win team can not be selected for a better bowl over an 8 win team.

DawgWild · Nov 22, 2010

I feel that we should appreciate any bowl we get but seeing how much we have improved this year i hoping for a bowl game in Atlanta. All of our loses have come at the hands of top tier teams who all will probably be ranked top ten end of the season. we should at least get the music city even with a loss to ole miss. We just need to take care of business against ole miss and hope all the other games fall like they need to end up in a better bowl. That avatar is hilarious by the way. Where did you get that?

dawgstudent · Nov 22, 2010

No 9-win team can lose a spot to a 7-win team but also, no 6-win team
can be picked over a 7-win team. But a 7-win team can go over an 8-win
team and an 8-win team can go over a 9-win team. Make sense?

So you can have 1 less win as long as you don't have only 6 wins. 6 can't go over 7 but - 7 can go over 8 - and - 8 can go over 9.

boomboommsu · Nov 22, 2010

...that State has been placed, in a bowl TBD.

i wouldn't worry about it too much. i don't think the SEC wants to appear to be anymore of a rigged joke than it's quickly gaining a rep for.

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