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There will be changes. But, I think you can count on him to make sure there is a good measure of consideration for tradition to go along with the forward thinking that is necessary.
he doesn't have a spot and wants one? Wouldn't the new provisions (whatever those might be) improve his chances to get one?
There will be changes. Now, with his well funded whatever campaign, he might be able to minimize the changes.
But, it is going to cost more. That's a given. And cb, I thought I saw one time that you actually agreed with that.
Beyond that, last I heard, the changes were still in the development stages. I think liability is a concern. You can thank the legal community and an entitlement generation for that. It's the same thing the KS charter yank was about -- it wasn't about underaged drinking, or morality, or anything like that. It was about minimizing legal liability. We have the same problem out there in the outfield. One of those contraptions falls in, or the decking falls in again, etc., there is big time liability. Can you imagine insurance people taking a look at that place? I'm not saying that's the way it should be. In fact, I hate decisions made because of insurance and liabilty. But, it's reality.</p>
But, it is going to cost more. That's a given. And cb, I thought I saw one time that you actually agreed with that.
Beyond that, last I heard, the changes were still in the development stages. I think liability is a concern. You can thank the legal community and an entitlement generation for that. It's the same thing the KS charter yank was about -- it wasn't about underaged drinking, or morality, or anything like that. It was about minimizing legal liability. We have the same problem out there in the outfield. One of those contraptions falls in, or the decking falls in again, etc., there is big time liability. Can you imagine insurance people taking a look at that place? I'm not saying that's the way it should be. In fact, I hate decisions made because of insurance and liabilty. But, it's reality.</p>
that if its changed, it will automatically be for the worse? I'm pretty sure Byrne has a grasp of our traditions. Besides that, so does Coach Cohen. There's nothing wrong with changing if its for the better.
to completely ignore the post and come up with your own interpretation.
I didn't say change for the sake of change. I said change for the better. You are just assuming it's for the worst. Typical. I am assuming this is more about you and maintaing your status in LFL than maintaining "tradition". Reminds me of the old farts that got pissed about losing their basketball seats.
I didn't say change for the sake of change. I said change for the better. You are just assuming it's for the worst. Typical. I am assuming this is more about you and maintaing your status in LFL than maintaining "tradition". Reminds me of the old farts that got pissed about losing their basketball seats.
those spots should cost 10x what they did when I was there. I believe they were $100-150 for a spot. While that is great that they are so affordable, the school could make a good bit of money off of those spots. I understand people with spots do not want this but that is just tough in my opinion. I have a group that would gladly pay 10x the going rate for a spot.
Some like CB will not like it but that is just the way things work. So far, Greg Byrne has been pretty damn impressive with the changes he has made. I don't expect anything less in this case.
Some like CB will not like it but that is just the way things work. So far, Greg Byrne has been pretty damn impressive with the changes he has made. I don't expect anything less in this case.
and what about the D Bag who owns about 4 spots and rents the others out he doesn't use. Yeah, the University just needs to stand by and do nothing while that guy profits
Change sucks. When I was at State with Will the Thrill and Raphy, you showed up when they opened the LFL and got a spot. Now the damn things are reserved/owned and those of us who didn't get in then are now left out! It can only get worse. Unless, of course they change BACK.
Typical. Disagree with you, and get called names. Pathetic. How about telling everyone why changes would be a bad thing? No, its much easier to just expect everyone to agree with you, act like a ***** when people don't, and then never support your own argument.
Every seat to baseball, basketball, and football games at MSU should be assigned by priority seating through the Bulldog Club. And each slot in the LFL should be auctioned off yearly. It's about raising money so that our teams can be competitive. So we can afford coaches. So we can afford to recruit. So we can afford to improve our facilities and program. And I am probably one of the older Bulldogs here. I just disagree with CB9.
and that's why CB9 is bitching, I bet. He's gonna have to shell out more money to keep his spot and he has his panties in a wad about it. Ironic, because he was one of the main ones telling people to step up their donations before.
Those that don't have a lounge have no idea how much work and expense goes into it every year. It's freezing its *** off when we set up and you damn near melt when you take it down. During the off season we have work days to make necessary repairs. All through the year I supply food and baseball water for 30+ of my closest springtime friends and all of their second cousins that have always heard about the lounge experience. All the while I'm paying the university a fee plus a required membership to the Bulldog Club (which I don't mind paying at all) to supply them with free seating for 30+ ticket purchasers. All of this doesn't include my tickets to the game. Hell, you pay a king's ransom to sit in club level for football games but at least you get free food and an air conditioned pisser. If the university wants to start making a ton of money why don't they figure out a way to fill the seats that they paid to build. It's like Washington wanting new healthcare when medicaid is broken. Fix what you have then lets talk.[b said:
Why do I do it? Because I freaking love it. I love watching 6 year olds get autographs from pitchers that throw in the mid 80's. I love giving the bullpen catchers leftovers after the game. There is no better place to be during baseball season.
Everyone that comes to my rig is envious and wants to be a part of it. I have found about 4 guys that are truly willing to put in the time to make it happen. 10% doing 90%. Good luck finding 4 guys every year. I can promise you that if the slots go up for auction or if the price is raised by 1000% in one year, the entire thing will be in shambles before Cohen makes a super regional.
Cowbell, pm me so we can talk.
They aren't taking my chair-back seats at DNF. They have my name on them and I will be sitting there for a long time to come. I would sue the school in a heartbeat if they tried to re-shuffle the baseball seats. My family paid for those seats when the stadium was built and we were told we could keep them as long as we kept buying tickets. That being said I would imagine I wouldn't lose the seats based on priority so it's probably not a issue.VinceVega70 said:
I just want to clarify.
And the reason I ask is because of what happened at the hump. Those were lifetime seats, if anything. But, family members of deceased seat holders continued to buy the tickets, as it would appear your post says. There is a differenence in lifetime seats and "my family gets to keep buying them."
Lifetime means that whoever made the original buy gets to keep buying them until they die. Not your spouse once you die, if you didn't write a joint check and put them in both names. Not your kids, not your grandkids, not your dog. Just YOU.
I know I seem like I am on a rant here. But, this is a pretty important point for seating.
First, did a family trust or something buy the tickets or something like that? Otherwise, it would appear to me that some one or some people in your family bought the seats. Now, I know that might be a little nitpicky. But, here's another question. As long as someone in your blood lineage continues to buy those tickets, you guys get them? That's pretty unbelievable. I have chairbacks, and I didn't know that was the deal.
And the reason I ask is because of what happened at the hump. Those were lifetime seats, if anything. But, family members of deceased seat holders continued to buy the tickets, as it would appear your post says. There is a differenence in lifetime seats and "my family gets to keep buying them."
Lifetime means that whoever made the original buy gets to keep buying them until they die. Not your spouse once you die, if you didn't write a joint check and put them in both names. Not your kids, not your grandkids, not your dog. Just YOU.
I know I seem like I am on a rant here. But, this is a pretty important point for seating.
I'm for keeping it the same, but then again, I don't really care about the people who don't have a LFL, make some friends with someone who does have one.
I'm tired of hearing that it's not fair, for people who didn't have a chance to get in on a LFL, too bad so sad.
The changes I can see will be to the effect of having to have your LFL inspected by a University offical to determine if there are any saftey concerns that would need to be addressed, that should help with liability issues.
I'm tired of hearing that it's not fair, for people who didn't have a chance to get in on a LFL, too bad so sad.
The changes I can see will be to the effect of having to have your LFL inspected by a University offical to determine if there are any saftey concerns that would need to be addressed, that should help with liability issues.
but in that mix, I think fraternities should be able to get spots at a lower price. I'm graduated and could care less but on most tuesday and wednesday nights early in the year when its cold, they are the bulk of the outfield. If you price out the college kids, it will be bad for the LFL
I developed an interest for MSU baseball in the LFL b/c my fraternity had a trailer out there. As a result I buy tickets and go to games when I otherwise wouldn't have.
1. I don't think the amount they are talking about would preclude most fraternities, particuarly when you consider what they spend on bands, etc.
2. I'm sure well healed alumni would permit their undergrad brothers to hang out in their spot.
3. There is a place in right field with no rigs, etc. designated especially for students.
4. Once I get my spot, I agree with you.
2. I'm sure well healed alumni would permit their undergrad brothers to hang out in their spot.
3. There is a place in right field with no rigs, etc. designated especially for students.
4. Once I get my spot, I agree with you.