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Indndawg

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a ramp for the playoffs
 

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I say we go back to ten games a year, no conference championship games, keep the same number of bowl games, and at the end of the year 15-16 teams can claim a National Championship.
 

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where you can play the next day, and only need 2-3,000 fans to make a cross-country trip to the game. You can NOT get rid of the bowls. However, my suggestion would go like this:<div>
</div><div>-First game of the season be the week of the last Saturday in August. That gives you 4-5 September Saturdays and 4-5 October Saturdays, and 3 November Saturdays to play 12 regular season games (may or may not be any bye weeks, it all depends).</div><div>
</div><div>-Have your Conference championships Thanksgiving Weekend.</div><div>
</div><div>-Begin the playoffs the first weekend in December with 24 teams, with the top 8 teams getting a bye. Second weekend, 16 teams play, 3rd weekend 8 teams play, 4th weekend 4 teams play.</div><div>
</div><div>-Have the top 7 Bowls rotate between the Quarterfinal, Semifinal, and Final game. Have the other fifteen bowls rotate the other early round games.</div><div>
</div><div>-Still have the other bowls, if they want to take the teams who don't make the tournament, or lose in the first round. DO NOT allow any teams who lose the Second round or better to go to another bowl.</div><div>
</div><div>Back when I favored a playoff system, this is what I proposed. Now, I hate that college football players have to kill each other for 20 weeks out of the year.</div>
 

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16-team playoff where each conference gets a bid (conference must have a minimum of 8 teams for an autobid - could be adjusted up). First two rounds on campus of higher seed. Semifinal rounds can go to bowl sites or to other sites based on bids. Final is played on a rotation or on sites determined by bids. Consolation game available as well. All teams that do not make the playoff semifinals can still play in a traditional bowl, though bowl organizers might not go for it.<div>
</div><div id="aeaoofnhgocdbnbeljkmbjdmhbcokfdb-mousedown">I liked the idea of moving the schedule up 1 week into August. Sure it will remove any possibility of ever having a Thanksgiving Day Egg Bowl, but a possible Thanksgiving night conference championship game might be nice. You'd be done with round 1 and 2 of the playoffs by mid-December and bowls would begin soon after.</div>
 

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So, off the top of my head:

Keep the BCS ranking formula but at the end of the regular season you take the top 8 rated conference champions for an 8-team playoff. No automatic berths. If the Big East or ACC champ is ranked behind eight other conference champs then they get left out.

Have the four first-round games played on Jan. 1 at the home of the top four seeded teams, two semis a week later at the home of the highest seeded winners and then champ game a week later at a neutral site.

Most bowls could still exist. The major bowls, like the Sugar and Rose would just get the second-place teams from their partner conferences. Other bowls, like the Gator or Chik-Fil-a may not really be affected at all - they'd still get to pick from eligible conference teams. I would add a rule that all bowls had to be played before Jan. 1 so they aren't conflicting with the playoffs.

One other point, right now the BCS folks like to say that every game counts but that's not necessarily true. Only a handful of games "count" each week and that number shrinks each week. With the above system more games in more conferences count since you're trying to win your league to make the playoffs. If you are out of playoff contention, you are still playing to improve bowl standing just like now.
 

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8 teams. Champions of the SEC, ACC, Big 10, Big 12, & PAC-12 get an automatic bid as long as each of those conferences has at least 12 teams and plays a conference championship game. One bid goes to the highest rankedconference championoutside those 5 conferences and two at-large bids. First round is 2 weeks after the conference championship games and hosted by the top 4 seeds. Seeds are adjust to ensure the top seed from a conference doesn't face a conference school until the finals. Second round is on New Year's Day with the 4 winners playing each other and the 4 losers playing each other in the Orange, Sugar, Fiesta, & Rose Bowls. Championship game in on Saturday night between Jan 10-17 at sites to be bid out like the Super Bowl & Final Four are.

Based on current projected BCS standings, it would look like this:

Round 1:
#13 Michigan St @ #1 LSU
#10 Houston @ #2 Alabama - Boise is #9 but they won't win their conference so Houston gets this spot.
#6 VA Tech @ #3 Arkansas
#5 Stanford @ #4 Oklahoma St.

Round 2:
LSU/MSU vs OSU/Stanford
Bama/Houston vs Ark/VA Tech
 

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but will just follow up with your point. By the way, OU has two losses so don't feel sorry for them.

I was going with 8 teams with the auto qualifiers for those conferences minus the Big 12 until they get back to a conf.championship game.

I like your layout of the games and bowls as well. I was thinking: force the "BCS" bowls (Orange, Sugar, Fiesta, and Rose) to move up one week to right before or right after Christmas. They have the option of moving up and hosting meaningful games or stay put and be worthless. Place the 8 teams in those bowls based on your seeding. Play semifinal games (haven't thought out yet where) on New Year's Day and NC game the following week.

This way, the season doesn't have to start early and the season ends at the same time as well. The only downfall to the playoff system as it stands now is the added 2 games to the top 2 teams. That will catch the most heat and add fuel to the "student athlete" argument we have been hearing recently.
 

alabamadog

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take the conference champions in the SEC, the Big Ten, the Big 12, ACC, Pac 12. For the sixth one I would want that massive 20 team conference to actually happen and take it as the sixth. This would have the problem of teams like last years Virginia Tech getting in. They went 8-0 in the ACC but lost to James Madison and Boise State. I want this system because if two teams go undefeated, they will get rewarded with a bye, and it is possible for a team like Houston to get their opportunity. It would also keep a team out like Alabama who could get in without winning a conference championship game.
 

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alabamadog[/b]]It would also keep a team out like Alabama who could get in without winning a conference championship game.
Better knock out that Big12 teamas well then. They do not have a championship game as it stands this year.

If all we are going to dois put conference championshipgame winners in theplayoff, there is no reason for a playoff at all.The BCScancontinue to do that for us.They get the clear-cut top 2 in theNC game 90% of the time.
 

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FrenchQuarterDawg said:
So, off the top of my head:

Keep the BCS ranking formula but at the end of the regular season you take the top 8 rated conference champions for an 8-team playoff. No automatic berths. If the Big East or ACC champ is ranked behind eight other conference champs then they get left out.

Have the four first-round games played on Jan. 1 at the home of the top four seeded teams, two semis a week later at the home of the highest seeded winners and then champ game a week later at a neutral site.

Most bowls could still exist. The major bowls, like the Sugar and Rose would just get the second-place teams from their partner conferences. Other bowls, like the Gator or Chik-Fil-a may not really be affected at all - they'd still get to pick from eligible conference teams. I would add a rule that all bowls had to be played before Jan. 1 so they aren't conflicting with the playoffs.

<span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline;">One other point, right now the BCS folks like to say that every game counts but that's not necessarily true. Only a handful of games "count" each week and that number shrinks each week. With the above system more games in more conferences count since you're trying to win your league to make the playoffs. If you are out of playoff contention, you are still playing to improve bowl standing just like now.</span>
<br style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline;">That's exactly right
 

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16 teams - 11 conference champions and 5 at large. Higher seed hosts until championship game.<div>
</div><div>Letting in the MAC/SB champs give a huge advantage to being a 1 seed rather than a 3 or 4, so teams keep playing hard no matter what: LSU still has incentive to keep playing hard.</div><div>
</div><div>Bowls still exist, but they're not part of the playoff system -- the playoff games need to be at home sites to make it easier on the fans,guaranteepacked stadiums, and really capture the college football atmosphere.</div><div>
</div><div>Also, the brackets can and would be set up so that rematches are impossible before the semifinals and preferably before the finals. </div>
 

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I have a big problem with asking the players to play 2,3,or 4 more games without getting any additional compensation. They already have to put there body on the line for up to 14 games a season now, so they can possibly earn big bucks in the future.

The solution is to allow teams to only schedule 11 games each year. The 12th game will be BCS week where a committee puts together the matchups for the final week. The Committee will not only pick the BCS pertinent games but will set some sort of regional or interesting matchup for all schools. They could have a big announcement show just like the Basketball. The committee will not be allowed to setup a rematch. They would use the BCS standing as they are and take into consideration any conference championship games that would be played the next weekend. Higher ranked team would get the home game.This way those teams, like Houston or Boise/TCU in the past, would have a shot at a good final matchup to be able to prove they belong. If you have an extra few undefeated teams they could be matched this week to eliminate those teams. This year with all the one loss teams there could be a clearer picture by making some of those two loss teams.

With this formula, you would still max out at 14 games for the players, but be able to have some flexibility to setup some matchups to put to rest the final questions.
 

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I'll say no thanks to having Rutgers and Kansas State playing for the national championship thanks to stupid upsets in early round competition.

For a playoff system, a plus one at the most.
 

patdog

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My format keeps access for everyone and also keeps the integrity of the regular season. There'd be plenty of 1st round blowouts in the Wetzel system. In mine, every playoff game is a damn good game in its own right, even if it weren't a playoff game.
 

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also... I would force a team like bamer, if they are in the mix, must play another game after regular season as part of the playoff.. it's not going to be fair to LSU, who may go undefeated to have to play an extra game against a quality opponent while the team they beat at bamer's house gets a bye week before they are forced to beat them for a 2nd time....

anybody who didn't enjoy this week's BCS busting games doesn't enjoy the true meaning of college football... the best regular season in all of sports.. every game has meaning for those challenging for the top spot...

you throw in a 16 team playoff scenario where the teams are meeting at bowl games in neutral sites is basically saying that weekends like this one don't really matter and doesn't think the game itself would lose any of its luster..

8 teams max... I think 4 would be plenty though... I'm not sure I seen too many, if any scenarios where you could honestly say that more than 4 actually deserved a national title shot at the end of the season...

a highly ranked team losing to another highly ranked team in the regular season shouldn't be able just walk off the field thinking/saying "we'll get another shot at them on a neutral site in a couple of weeks hopefully"... those matchups we wait on to see don't need national championship ramifications out of them.....they need to "count"
 

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but man the last two days are hard to argue with.

If you were going to do it, the only legit way to do it is a 16 team playoff, with the 11 conference champions and the top five at-large teams in a BCS-type formula.

Would look like this right now:

(1) LSU-SEC Champion
(2) Alabama - at-large #1
(3) Arkansas - at large #2
(4) Stanford - at-large #3
(5) Oklahoma State - Big XII Champion
(6) Virginia Tech - ACC Champion
(7) Boise State - at large #4
(8) Houston - Conference USA Champion
(9) Oregon - Pac 12 Champion
(10) Michigan State - Big Ten Champion
(11) Oklahoma - at-large #5
(12) TCU - Mountain West Champion
(13) Louisville - Big East Champion
(14) Louisiana Tech - WAC Champion
(15) Northern Illinois - MAC Champion
(16) Arkansas State - Sun Belt Champion

<span style="font-weight: bold;">First Round Matchups</span>
Arkansas State at LSU
Oregon at Houston
TCU at Oklahoma State
Louisville at Stanford

Northern Illinois at Alabama
Michigan State at Boise State
Louisiana Tech at Arkansas
Oklahoma at Virginia Tech

<span style="font-weight: bold;">Quarterfinal Matchups</span>
Houston at LSU
Oklahoma State at Stanford

Boise State at Alabama
Oklahoma at Arkansas
<br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Semifinal Matchups</span>
Oklahoma State at LSU
Arkansas at Alabama

<span style="font-weight: bold;">National Championship</span>
LSU vs. Alabama
 

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You must play at least 8 conference games, and 2 non conference games.

Plus a conference championship which makes 11

Then from the 8 conference championship games, the winners are ranked by the bcs based on conference record, strength, nonconference record, nonconference stength.

Then play an 8 team single elimination. THe rest of the teams that dont make the tournament can play a bowl game.

This is 10 games plus 1 plus 3 for the 2 luckiest teams. One more than is played now.

2 teams play 13 games

2 more play 12 games

Bowl teams play 11

Everyone else plays 10 and has time during the season to recover from injuries like it used to be.
 

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If Rutgers or Kansas State (who wouldn't make it in any playoff system unless it took 24 teams) would never go on the road 3 times and team top 10 teams. You really think Rutgers could win in Palo Alto AND in Stillwater AND in Baton Rouge?<div>
</div><div>And if somehow they did, then more power to them, but it's incredibly unlikely that any team would win thrice on the road, even if they were much better than Rutgers. However,guaranteeingeach conference a bid is a good idea, since it prohibits whining from any small school champion, ever.</div>
 

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Some people just want to 17 with stuff.
 

QuaoarsKing

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For the playoff fans and non-playoff fans alike:<div>
</div><div>Seed the 4 highest rated conference champions. Have 1 play 4 and 2 play 3. Winners play. If there are 5 or more undefeated teams, do some kind of play-in so everyone gets a chance.</div><div>
</div><div>It's not the most lucrative, and it's not necessarily the most fair, but it sounds like a valid compromise.</div>
 

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if you want to give the first five conference champions automatic bids, then have the sixth be an at large for the best non conference champion or a worthy fbs school I could agree with that. My point about Alabama is that they aren't going to have to win a conference championship game to get to the national championship game, and LSU is, which makes LSU's road to the national championship game harder even though they went undefeated. <div>
</div><div>The main thing is that if there was a playoff, I would like for it to have six teams. With the current state of conferences, my idea for selecting playoff teams admittedly wouldn't work until everything does stabilize. </div>
 

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I favor a plan that brings back the traditions of the New Years Day bowls, while allowing 8 teams a path to the championship.

- Similar to what others have said, I want an 8 team playoff that includes only conference champions plus any independents that are in the top 8 (by whatever method you use to seed the teams).
- First round on New Years Day. Conference champions are locked into their pre-BCS traditional bowls, SEC to Sugar, Big Ten/Pac-12 to the Rose, Big 12 to the Orange (I think), etc. I don't think the Fiesta had any tie-ins, so both slots would be open. Remaining playoff teams are slotted to open bowl slots based on their seeding. For example if SEC team was ranked #1, the #8 team would go to the Sugar.
- After bowl games, teams are reseeded with the top two teams getting home games in the semifinals. This of course would lead to the similar discussion and controversy that used to happen after the bowl games. I also love the potential of seeing Alabama have to go to Ann Arbor for a semifinal game in January.
- The semifinals would occur on a Saturday no earlier than 7 days after the bowl games. Championship game the following week (or the week before the Super Bowl) at a neutral site.