IHSA Dream Season
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As far as recruiting, the program and tradition speaks for itself. I have seen more recruiting in public schools by far... kids use relative addresses to go as they choose.
As far as recruiting, the program and tradition speaks for itself. I have seen more recruiting in public schools by far... kids use relative addresses to go as they choose.
Thank you
Your circular rhetorical questions mean nothing. They prove nothing. I answered them as directly as I could with the detail they warranted. It would be impossible for me to answer YOUR questions to a degree that is satisfactory to you because we do not share the same viewpoint. I did answer them, however.
In a few short posts, I can see that your main strategy is to respond to questions or new ideas with more and more questions of your own until the discussion is so far off track that it becomes pointless to continue. You don't answer or provide any positive feedback to any ideas I proposed other than say that, you are a fan of the football enrollment idea, as am I. So I guess that's something. Thanks.
For the last time, I think ICCP is amazing. What playoff class they end up in is not their creation. Its the IHSA's rules. Apparently you are a fan of the IHSA and their rules because my point was that they are outdated and draconian and miss the boat. I think they could be improved to make the games more competitive throughout the classes without singling out the private schools. I kind of thought you were on the same page. I guess not.
ICCP will go out and play who the IHSA determines and by about 6:00PM next Friday they will go down as one of the best 3A teams in IHSA history.
My son is not old enough to play high school ball, but if he was it would be for a 7A team that got "upset" in the 2nd round. Unless I send him to Bishop Mac.
ICCP will beat Monticello by as much as they see fit. Monticello supposedly has a good pass game and they might score a few points, but they will absolutely not stop ICCP from scoring at will.
If I was the Monticello coach, I would not punt.
you are moving the goal post again. it was stated that no other team has won all their playoffs by 30 points which was an indication that ICCP should not be in their current level.
I was pointing out that Monticello has won their games by 30+ (well ok 27 is close enough) and that is in the same bracket. My point was that the two teams play each other now so lets see just how unfair it is.
Moving what goal post?
I predict that ICCP wins and wins big. By more than 30. The only way this game will be closer than 30 points will be because Monticello leaves in their starters to score a couple late TDs against ICCPs second string.
I will predict ICCP 56, Monticello 14.
man you guys are just not comprehending.
pr is typically a 7a school most years. they move up and down.
so do not use pr ever again. you can use schools that teeter on both classes because just like that play in 6a win move to 7a lose or win. but they are moving.
same as providence or any school that is on the border of biggest or smallest in a class.
5a/6a talent - means depth witt/normdog get over yourself.
7a/8a talent - means more depth.
as you all know me. I am not one that moans about the differences between the public/private.
but, as you ALL know. the depth of the private(unboundaried schools) is much greater.
in a typical 3a school, you carry oh lets say 45kids. now 22 have to play the game. your depth chart on linebackers is 2max, running back 2max. in your typical in unboundaried school your depth is at 3or4, your 2or 3 is a starter at most schools. so yes depth is a main factor in the equation.
I get it, all schools that are able to produce year in and year out should be moved into that class that suits them the best. but, lets for now remember that just because you are in 8a you are currently not the best of anybody yet. because we do not play for that. we play for a trophy in each class. do I believe la is the best yes, but it cannot prove it.
and your smug remark should they be playing colleges. yes they should be traveling to different states representing Illinois right now. they are that damn good. you want your teams to play the best competition they can play. beating each week a team by 30+ is NOT COMPETITION.
we(Richards) in our conference, talk about this every week. we cannot get a competitive game in our conference most years. does it hurt us come playoff time absolutely amongst other things. we need to be playing better teams each week. does it feel good to cream your opponent yeah, does it make you any better next week NO, especially if you are not using that time to practice during those games, the stuff you need to get better at.
now get off your soap boxes. and realize he has made the same argument for ALL schools.
Many people are comparing wins by point differential, the advent of the spread offense and coaching has lead to this. Wilmington attempted 19 pass plays all year prior to their game with Ic. With a mistake against a spread o easily could lead to a quick touchdown
When you run the wing t offense a mistake could lead to a 7-8 yard gain.
I am interested to what the Ic coaching staff looks like??? Head coach played on the 2002 state team, I know that they have a former NFL player and current ESPN w
I am interested to what the Ic coaching staff looks like??? Head coach played on the 2002 state team, I know that they have a former NFL player and current ESPN w
Doesn't make sense. A mistake could lead to a 7-8 yard gain or a 80 yard touchdown against both (and any for that matter) type of offenses.
I've watched plenty of games. Spread offense can work great, but you have to have the right athletes to run it.
In small school ball, if you have the athletes to run spread it is a pretty decent advantage on that side of the ball. On the other hand, I've seen sub par teams try to implement the spread with disastrous results.
I've watched plenty of games. Spread offense can work great, but you have to have the right athletes to run it.
In small school ball, if you have the athletes to run spread it is a pretty decent advantage on that side of the ball. On the other hand, I've seen sub par teams try to implement the spread with disastrous results.
Wilmington would crush Monticello with weaver(stud) and coach Reents pounding the rock. That would be another blowout, Wilmington won the state title in 2014, and played their physical nasty style of play. If ICCP didn't make playoffs in 2013 . Coaching and schemes look to be a huge difference in some cases.
Prairie ridge is a great example of solid coaching and scheme, no one likes getting 71 points put on them, they execute and should be rewarded for their efforts. Go to glazier coaching clinics and see what staffs are working to get better or drinking beer in their hotel rooms.
Wilmington culture is one of hard work, physical play and execution. Football is life there, and when you play them you feel it. I believe the same as prairie ridge and Many other schools ( public and private) If more schools have that approach there will be a much more competitive ihsa.
1a-8a better coaching benefits the kids, there is a huge disparity in many cases, guys cashing checks and not investing themselves fully in their program.
Reents (Wilmington) is an all in type of coach you need to be successful , didn't happen this year but they will be back.
Prairie ridge is a great example of solid coaching and scheme, no one likes getting 71 points put on them, they execute and should be rewarded for their efforts. Go to glazier coaching clinics and see what staffs are working to get better or drinking beer in their hotel rooms.
Wilmington culture is one of hard work, physical play and execution. Football is life there, and when you play them you feel it. I believe the same as prairie ridge and Many other schools ( public and private) If more schools have that approach there will be a much more competitive ihsa.
1a-8a better coaching benefits the kids, there is a huge disparity in many cases, guys cashing checks and not investing themselves fully in their program.
Reents (Wilmington) is an all in type of coach you need to be successful , didn't happen this year but they will be back.
I agree to athletes make a huge difference, truly developing a program and a system in a small town leads to developing one or two trigger men that can make a tremendous impact on a game. Rochester. Prairie ridge. ICCP, Maine south.
Schemes create or detract from the talent pool.
Disastrous offense is when your schemes don't match with your developed skill set of your players.
doctor_d:
If nothing else, your responses demonstrate your inability to read and interpret the meaning of my posts. I am among the most passionate opponents of everything IHSA.
You refused to answer simple questions and in one post, laughably, you invented a definition for "5A/6A talent."
You are quite the curious newcomer to this forum.
If nothing else, your responses demonstrate your inability to read and interpret the meaning of my posts. I am among the most passionate opponents of everything IHSA.
You refused to answer simple questions and in one post, laughably, you invented a definition for "5A/6A talent."
You are quite the curious newcomer to this forum.
go dogz:
I am not sure whether to congratulate you for posting while sober or dismantle what appears to be a spirited defense of doctor_d.
Typically, you post in the dark of night by candlelight and after a night of guzzling Old Milwaukee or nail polish, depending on what suits your Bohemian lifestyle and where you are in your apartment. I suspect you often mistake the medicine cabinet for a refrigerator.
When not banned for your profanity-laced, drugged-up posts, your posts often qualify you as a backbencher. Should you post again, please, by all means, submit during the day as to spare us from your usual non-stop, alcohol-fueled horror show.
hahaha witt you smug bastard. just because you have nothing to say that has basically anything meaningful you name call. just like you. always think you are better than everyone else. you are really a piece of work. go back into your hole.
go dogz:
This is high praise coming from you. I would offer to send you a case of Antarctic Nail Ale or Jacobsen Vintage in place of Keystone Light, but you would use it as after shave.
Until I find a different solution, stick to quaffing nail polish and avoid posting.
hahaha man oh man you are really taking a beaten over there by yur olelady huh.
once you become the man of yur house come talk with me. until then sip yur wine.
and talk amongst yur lady friends. they all believe in you.
as for now, let the men discuss football.
you can discuss nail polish with the neighborhood ladies this weekend...
Is this the twilight zone? YOU kept pestering me for MY definition.
Is there a better definition? How about Webster's? Urban dictionary dot com?
Or is it that you just didn't like or understand the phrase?
You are correct. I am curious of the depths of your arrogance and ignorance, but I feel there is nothing left to discuss. I do not feel as if it is possible to reach common ground with you as you have demonstrated that anyone who is not the staunchest of private school supporters is the enemy.
If you indeed represent the mindset of a typical private school supporter, I sadly suppose that those who predict a complete class separation are correct.
This sums it up nicely. You feel slighted and you choose to lump all those that do not share your vision, venom and vitriol as adversaries. You have no interest in any attempt to achieve some type of competitive balance via common ground. I also get the impression that you are a Loyola guy. Forgive me, I haven't been here long. It is my presumption that when it comes to the smaller classes, you know little and care even less.
I have stated my thoughts on the subject. You chose to ignore them as you obviously couldn't get past the fact that I do not take incredible joy in watching any private school crush any public opponent.
Even your pal ramblinman has stated that the current system could use some overhaul to make things more competitive.
https://edgytim.forums.rivals.com/threads/first-round-blowouts-and-running-clocks.11618/
I agree with his premise, but not his methods to remedy the situation.
I do think it is unnecessary to penalize ALL private schools for the success of a few without implementing similar rules for ultra successful public programs. In addition and somewhat conversely, I would like to see the classes, ALL classes, be more competitive on a regular basis.
Have a great weekend. BTW, I'll take the case of Antarctic Nail Ale if you have an extra one lying around.
How about four private and four public classes. They each stay in class through the Private and Public state championships. Then hold a Private vs Public state Super Bowl. Four games, one day. Privates might require fewer rounds of playoffs due to fewer schools, but they can play an extra regular season game. In my demented world it doesn't matter because you only face them in a Super Bowl anyway.
That way Public schools can say they won Public State Championships before they have to face the beasts of the Privates. We can even keep all the Privates on one side of the stadium at the Super Bowl all day so they don't have to mingle with the unwashed masses.
Oh never mind.... we have to play the greatest team Illinois has ever produced tomorrow.
That way Public schools can say they won Public State Championships before they have to face the beasts of the Privates. We can even keep all the Privates on one side of the stadium at the Super Bowl all day so they don't have to mingle with the unwashed masses.
Oh never mind.... we have to play the greatest team Illinois has ever produced tomorrow.
agreed...I was trying to redirect to something else, but decided it better to just start a new thread.
It began with the original poster being uninformed and incorrect. It didn't start on a good note, but I don't think it's become much worse.
4 private classes is excessive. 4 public may be too few when you get to the smaller schools.
I think 2 and 6 is fine
Now that I think about it...5 is plenty for the Publics. Maybe 3 Privates and we have 3 Super Bowl games.
Suppose you could make as many as you want, just wouldnt be champ vs champ.