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Frances Drebin

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...when Tyler Hansbrough is done in college. He's a very good college player but I'm really sick of hearing him be fellated by the WWL. The world will be a better place when he's toiling in NBA obscurity alongside JJ Redick.
 

Frances Drebin

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...when Tyler Hansbrough is done in college. He's a very good college player but I'm really sick of hearing him be fellated by the WWL. The world will be a better place when he's toiling in NBA obscurity alongside JJ Redick.
 

mstateglfr

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BewareOfMSUDawg said:
Just one more reason to hate ESPN - the over hype of certain players and programs.

so ESPN has made him a 3time first team AA? and ESPN has made him the all time scoring leader at one of the most historically successful schools in the nation, who just happens to also be #1 in the nation right now?

man, they have way more power than i ever imagined.
 

Frances Drebin

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so ESPN has made him a 3time first team AA? and ESPN has made him the all time scoring leader at one of the most historically successful schools in the nation, who just happens to also be #1 in the nation right now?

man, they have way more power than i ever imagined.
...anyone is saying that ESPN created Tyler Hansbrough. He is deserving of his All-America credentials. It's the hero-worship that I get sick of. Whatever just happened to showing the highlights and moving on?
 

mstateglfr

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it just doesnt seem to be 'overhype' to me. it seems like an accurate amount of hype for what he has shown he can do.

personally, i do get tired of hearing so much about him too, but damn, the guy is one of the best college basketball players in the last couple decades at least.
 

Frances Drebin

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it just doesnt seem to be 'overhype' to me. it seems like an accurate amount of hype for what he has shown he can do.
Last year they didn't hype OJ Mayo, Michael Beasley, or Derrick Rose as much as they hyped Hansbrough, and I think all three of them are better basketball players who will have much more successful pro careers. You can believe that if Duke or North Carolina has an all america candidate, he's going to be shoved down our throats on a nightly basis.
 

mstateglfr

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they didnt hype those guys as much?...really?!?!

i didnt actually measure the number of times each of them was mentioned, or how often they were profiled, but ill be damned if i dont know all of their life stories/struggles and accomplishments as a result of ESPN beating it into my head on a daily basis.
Mayo was not a POY candidate, lets not kid ourselves. Rose wasnt a serious consideration till the end of the season. Beasley sure as hell was all thru the year, and they touted him as such every damn time he was mentioned.

and im sure all 3 of those players will have better pro careers...but this is COLLEGE basketball. it doesnt matter if they will be better once they are earning money.
 

dogfan96

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The "hardest working guy in college basketball" gets twice as much hype as any of those guys ever did (until the NBA draft). How many times have we heard about how nobody gives more effort and nobody works harder than "Psycho T" (horrible nickname by the way). We get it, you like the guy. Really what's not to like about him? But seriously, enough already. You can insert Tim Tebow here about this time next year, assuming he goes back to school.
 

mstateglfr

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apparently you didnt see this part of one of my posts:
"personally, i do get tired of hearing so much about him too"

i dont seek out UNC games to watch him, or anything close to that. but he does give a **** ton more effort that most everyone else he plays. and that sort of play is talked about so much because it has become all too rare.

i would welcome more talk about other players who will challenge him for POY honors. guys like Blake Griffin, Stephen Curry, ...well, after just 2 players, im at a loss.
 

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NFL, NHL, NBA, etc. Whay compare him to Pro players. I dont get it. Maybe I missed something b/c I was at the gym and did not catch the whole commentary.
 

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NBA teams are always looking for a guy who can play defense and rebound. If a guy like Udonis Haslem (by the way, check out the roster pics for the heat) can have a long career, there's no reason Hansbrough can't. NBAdraft.net has him going 21st, and Draftexpress has him as the 28th rated prospect. You're not expected to get a superstar at that position. And hell, some guys are just flat out stars in college but role players in the NBA. See Christian Laettner.

Unless of course you think a bust means he won't make 10 all star games. If you're looking for a potential bust of notable proportions, look at Hasheem Thabeet.
 

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Big D said:
<span class="post-title">He will be a flop as a pro! </span> Book it.
what the F does his supposed lack of success in the NBA have to do with anything??...it doesnt. he is a college player. he is successful on the college level and college analysts are the ones that are in love with him.

damn, this is the same **** fishwater kept beating on with Jamont.
 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I am not saying he is not a good player. But I seriously doubt he would get the hype or have the same numbers if he had played four years at State or Ole Miss. Not that I would not what him because it would be great, but hell he has been around great talent. That helps! Not basketball but trying to make a point, would Bush win the Heisman at Miss State? Hell no. Could Norwood won it at USC? Hell yeah he could.

The point being good college play does not always translate into good pro play. Plus like I said, it is easy to be great when you have greatness around. Hell I would take NC second team at Miss State today.

As far as having anything to do with his college play, it has nothing to do with it. He will always be considering one of the greatest college basketball players. I was just stating an opinion.

The difference in the talent level from college to Pro is like High school to SEC.

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seshomoru

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And no one said good college play translates to pro success.

Good talk though.

Edit to add: If Hansbrough was at MSU (odd typing that actually), he would still be an All-American. He would be making the SEC his personal ***** night in and night out.
 

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Seshomoru said:
And no one said good college play translates to pro success.

Good talk though.
look what Norwood did with the worst offensive line in the country playing in the best football conference in the country compared to Bush who had one of the best offensive lines in country in maybe the third best conference. If Bush could win it there, then Norwood could.

Who got the better deal out of that years draft? Atlanta with Norwood or New Orleans with Bush? Hell Bush is out for the rest of this year. Playing running back at Miss State made Norwood one of the toughest SOB's in Pro Football.
 

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if he can rebound at a high rate, he might be alright. I wouldn't take him in the 1st round at any rate. I think he's gonna be a less-athletic Joakim Noah at the next level.</p>
 

dogfan96

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Reggie Bush was leading the league in TDs when he got hurt the first time and he's learning how to run in the NFL.
 

seshomoru

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He's strong enough to hold his own down low in the NBA where they allow more contact. I'd take him in the last few picks in the first if my team needed a rebounder. Above that, I'd probably take a risk on someone who might turn out to be more of a scorer. The best thing he has going for him is that you know what you're going to get.
 

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Despite his once a month big play that makes all of us think he's the most under rated running back in professional football. He'd be better served to learn how to play slot receiver.

And yeah, he was a good college running back, but if Reggie Bush never existed, Vince Young wins the Heisman, not Norwood in a USC uniform.
 

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The man is only averaging 5.8 yards per carry for his career (and he has nearly 1,700 carries). No doubt he's been underused by the Falcons. But you are right that he'll never be an every down back in the NFL.
 

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patdog said:
The man is only averaging 5.8 yards per carry for his career (<span style="font-weight: bold;">and he has nearly 1,700 carries</span>). No doubt he's been underused by the Falcons. But you are right that he'll never be an every down back in the NFL.
Umm...
 

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Big D said:
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I am not saying he is not a good player. But I seriously doubt he would get the hype or have the same numbers if he had played four years at State or Ole Miss. Not that I would not what him because it would be great, but hell he has been around great talent. That helps! Not basketball but trying to make a point, would Bush win the Heisman at Miss State? Hell no. Could Norwood won it at USC? Hell yeah he could.

<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00" size="5">The point being good college play does not always translate into good pro play.</font> Plus like I said, it is easy to be great when you have greatness around. Hell I would take NC second team at Miss State today.

As far as having anything to do with his college play, it has nothing to do with it. He will always be considering one of the greatest college basketball players. I was just stating an opinion.

The difference in the talent level from college to Pro is like High school to SEC.

</p>

its like you are the only one trying to make that point. and even after all that, nobody is actually disagreeing with your comment.

but that isnt 'the point'...you have just continued to try and make that the point.
 

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mstateglfr said:
Big D said:
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I am not saying he is not a good player. But I seriously doubt he would get the hype or have the same numbers if he had played four years at State or Ole Miss. Not that I would not what him because it would be great, but hell he has been around great talent. That helps! Not basketball but trying to make a point, would Bush win the Heisman at Miss State? Hell no. Could Norwood won it at USC? Hell yeah he could.

<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00" size="5">The point being good college play does not always translate into good pro play.</font> Plus like I said, it is easy to be great when you have greatness around. Hell I would take NC second team at Miss State today.

As far as having anything to do with his college play, it has nothing to do with it. He will always be considering one of the greatest college basketball players. I was just stating an opinion.

The difference in the talent level from college to Pro is like High school to SEC.

</p>

its like you are the only one trying to make that point. and even after all that, nobody is actually disagreeing with your comment.

but that isnt 'the point'...you have just continued to try and make that the point.