I'll give Delbert partial credit here

[horshack.sixpack]

At least he is finally speaking up, but only once it was inevitable. (Money talks: https://msmec.com/its-time/)

https://mississippitoday.org/2020/0...-behind-legislative-action/?utm_source=pushly

Also, him and others advocating for adding "In God We Trust" makes it really clear why simply voting to end the use of the current flag is the best we can hope for in this session. I'm a Christian, but honestly, what does putting that on the flag do other than start the state on a path of fighting a bunch of political and legal battles over that wording. Seems useless.

 

[patdog]

Tate is going to go down on the wrong side of history.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

His threshold for obvious is clearly higher than even Delbert's...

 

[maroonmania]

Tate can join the George Wallace club

 

[EngDawg]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but if the Legislature has enough votes to suspend the rules, then they should have enough votes to override a veto correct?

 

[ronpolk]

Im guessing him speaking means he feels like they have the votes, which is good.

 

[Drebin]

They don't have the votes yet. I think he's speaking to try and whip up some.

 

[Dawgology]

Based on this strategy

At least he is finally speaking up, but only once it was inevitable. (Money talks: https://msmec.com/its-time/)

https://mississippitoday.org/2020/0...-behind-legislative-action/?utm_source=pushly

Also, him and others advocating for adding "In God We Trust" makes it really clear why simply voting to end the use of the current flag is the best we can hope for in this session. I'm a Christian, but honestly, what does putting that on the flag do other than start the state on a path of fighting a bunch of political and legal battles over that wording. Seems useless.

It appears that the majority of people against changing the flag consider themselves Christian and this is to help their hurt feelings or make them feel like idiots for being against the change.

I find it funny that a relion espousing love would be against changing a symbol that stands for hate and pain for so many.

 

[TNT.sixpack]

Tate is going to go down on the wrong side of history.

Here's the problem with Tate's reply. He's basically saying "yeah, we know we've got a bunch of racists who will want to vote to keep it and by having a referendum, we want to be sure we give them a chance to be heard and possibly vote to keep it.....".

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Well, don't confuse the philosophy (Bible) with the people not practicing it very well. The latter does not have any bearing on the former, except maybe to validate the need.

 

[GhostOfJackie]

The voters I associate with will have no problem giving their time and money to primary the **** out of Tate Reeves if he puts this on the ballot. It's your decision Tate, but you need to make the correct one. There are plenty of quality republicans that will be happy to make you sweat out a hard fought primary.

Tate, you're on the wrong side of history and we won't forget about it.

 

[$altyDawg]

I don't get the "don't have the votes" argument. Are they really so short sighted on this issue that they would vote against and immediately open themselves to ridicule nationally? Just as soon as the vote came in, there would be a list published of all the names that voted against removing the current flag for the whole world to see. I believe like others have stated on here that said if the vote were to take place, it would pass because they wouldn't want to be on record as voting against it. Based on their lack of backbone I have seen in the past, I can't for the life of me see them not bowing to the pressure they are facing this time.

 

[kired]

So they’re basically saying the seal that’s now on the car tags? Personally think that’s a terrible idea but anything’s better than what we have now. I do get that maybe he’s trying to appease the super conservatives that are against changing it to begin with.

At this point I’m full on board with the “hospitality” flag

 

[patdog]

I think they don't have the votes to suspend the rules to get it to the floor. If (when) it does come to the floor, I think you'll see very few go on record as voting to keep the old flag.

 

[Pars]

Tate can’t flip flop on this one and he doesn’t know how to blame someone else.
He’s stuck

 

[$altyDawg]

There are plenty of quality republicans that will be happy to make you sweat out a hard fought primary.

He and Haley are banking on us forgetting about it. When it comes re-election time, the GOP will spend untold millions in TV advertising telling us how heroic Tate is and how he led the fight to change the flag. All I need is someone on the ballot that isn't another of Haley's puppets to get my vote.

 

[fishwater99]

Tate is going to go down on the wrong side of history.

Tate is a mere puppet and saying what he is told to say. Hopefully this will change soon and you will see him take a 180.
He did not make a 25 on the English portion of the ACT.

 

[o_1984Dawg]

Wouldn't be Mississippi if we didn't make a big show of excluding a minority.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

He's a coward. Changing your mind when you realize you are wrong is a hallmark of mature thinking.

 

[patdog]

And his masters will be more than happy to let him be the fall guy.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

He need to ignore them. If he thinks it'll be worse for him if he changes his mind, he is sadly mistaken.

 

[G-Dawg]

I will work my *** off to defeat that SOB (Tate) if he forces this to a ballot vote. In fact, I'll pay the registration fee to get on the ballot and run against him MYSELF.

 

[$altyDawg]

Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying.