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Not sure if I buy into all the illuminati/9/11conspiracies but I'll admit, the YouTube videos are highly interesting. It's easy to go from watching something with kittens playing peek-a-boo to convincing yourself that Lebron is the anti-Christ.

What are you're alls thoughts on conspiracy theory's?
 

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Lebron James is the result of government genetic testing and experiments.

Stevie Wonder is not blind.
 

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I'm feeling a modicum of regret for calling you out, liveblue. I'm actually in a great mood....that sentence just really pissed me off.

As a peace offering I'll leave you this.

1. Study the content of that site
2. Run through an English Rosetta Stone
3. Try again.
 

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Alex Jones is the one to consult on anything like this. If he so much as mentions it, it's complete crap. He makes the Weekly World News look like the AP and his followers are insane, morons, or both. His 9-11 protest during a remembrance service at ground zero , in front of victim's families, elevated him to a level of douchbaggery that did not even exist before then.
 

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Alex Jones is the one to consult on anything like this. If he so much as mentions it, it's complete crap. He makes the Weekly World News look like the AP and his followers are insane, morons, or both. His 9-11 protest during a remembrance service at ground zero , in front of victim's families, elevated him to a level of douchbaggery that did not even exist before then.


Alex Jones is a gov't plant. Jesse Ventura is the credible one.
 

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This is more fact than conspiracy theory but you can draw your own conclusion...

"Catspaw" is code for a special, inter-agency clandestine Federal Government operation working in conjunction with the NCAA tasked with the sole purpose of spying on BBN. Be careful what you type, wildcat friends.
 
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Alex Jones is a gov't plant. Jesse Ventura is the credible one.
Wow. It sounds crazy but an internet search turned up documentation.
 

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Alex Jones is a gov't plant. Jesse Ventura is the credible one.
Jesse Ventura might be somewhat credible but he is so egotistical and narcissistic that when anyone disagrees with him, fumes come out of his ears. The dude is sociopath and has issues. But I will agree that Alex Jones is pure fraud.
 

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Jesse Ventura might be somewhat credible but he is so egotistical and narcissistic that when anyone disagrees with him, fumes come out of his ears. The dude is sociopath and has issues. But I will agree that Alex Jones is pure fraud.

hahaha, I was kidding. Jesse is a farce too.

This was Jesse's first episode of that loony conspiracy show he had.

"Ventura visits HAARP (the High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) in Gakona, Alaska to uncover the alleged truth behind rumors that it is being used as a weather modification weapon, an instrument for mind control, or both." or


"Manchurian Candidate" January 6, 2010 (2010-01-06)
Ventura and his crew investigates rumors that the CIA has restarted the project to turn ordinary citizens into programmed assassins and super soldiers through hypnosis, experimental drugs, torture and other methods. He also meets a man who claims to be a real-life Manchurian Candidate"

"Ventura investigates rumors that the government has developed secret time travel technology beginning with the Philadelphia Experiment and Montauk Project and that it has been used as a weapon to alter historical events. Later he meets Andrew D. Basiago, a man who claims that as a child, he was "chrononaut" working for his father at the Los Alamos National Laboratory on a DARPA experiment called "Project Pegasus" and was sent back in time to meet historical figures such as George Washington and Abraham Lincoln." LoL.
 
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Willy you're right about Jones and Ventura. You can throw in Icke, Brand, and others in that group as well. Their job is to muddy up the water to the point that you can't see what's really going on. Simply disinformation. The reptilian **** is my favorite boondoggle. Icke has made a shitload of money peddle that mess.

I've always been fascinated with the Masons. Their history and what not. Particularly, their connection to the Knight Templars. But there is so much speculation surrounding them, it's hard to pin anything down. And believe me I've tried. I have 4 Freemasons in my family and I have to give it up to them, they're tight lipped as hell. They absolutely volunteer nothing. You have to ask them about it and when/if you do, they're so vague, it's really hard to make sense out what they tell you, much less draw any ground breaking conclusions. The Masons' secrecy game is on lock. Now, these guys aren't 33 degrees, and probably aren't even close to that distinction, but no matter what degree they are, they ain't saying ****. Pretty impressive actually.
 
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I've always been fascinated with the Masons. Their history and what not. Particularly, their connection to the Knight Templars. But there is so much speculation surrounding them, it's hard to pin anything down. And believe me I've tried. I have 4 Free Masons in my family and I have to give it up to them, they're tight lipped as hell. They absolutely volunteer nothing. You have to ask them about it and when/if you do, they're so vague, it's really hard to make sense out what they tell you, much less draw any ground breaking conclusions. The Masons' secrecy game is on lock. Now, these guys aren't 33 degrees, and probably aren't even close to that distinction, but no matter what degree they are, they ain't saying ****. Pretty impressive actually.


Me too. A lot of great history surrounds them. Would love to know what they know. Bet it causes life changing perceptions.
 

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If there is any substance to a conspiracy theory, sooner or later there will be leaks or confirmations from credible sources. If it's just one person pushing a theory with no one to corroborate it, then I usually dismiss it. I think most conspiracy theories are created to garner attention, notoriety and cash, but a few are probably legitimate.
 
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Me too. A lot of great history surrounds them. Would love to know what they know. Bet it causes life changing perceptions.

I agree. Well, to a point. I think Freemasonry is what you make it. A couple of my Masonic family members, God love'em, aren't the brightest people in the world. Well, I shouldn't say that, they're not dumb, I guess it would be better to say they just have a simple view of the world. Simple or not, they have good jobs and I honestly think Freemasonry just came along naturally with that. And I think they look at it as just a community activity, a social club basically. Life changing revelations aren't what they're looking for. Networking and Bro'ing out are though.

Now, behind their eyes, the secrets to the meaning of life could be dancing around, IDK, they ain't saying. But I'll say this, it certainly doesn't seem like Uncle J is struggling with some life altering secret knowledge. And if you knew him, you'd agree, trust me. We use to see him struggle not to breathe out of his mouth, but he's gotten so good at not doing it now, I would say "struggle" would be a little strong of a description. I mean, it definitely seems he's gotten past it.:pray:Still a great human being though.

Having said all that, I do believe, if you took it serious, really worked it, and moved up the degrees, that there is a alternative way of seeing the world waiting for you. IDK if it's something that actually could/should be believed in or if it's just another pie in the sky,"you got to have faith" explanation of how things work. But I think it's safe to say, there is a belief system to Masonry. One that's unlike any that you've seen or read about.

Which is why I'm not a Mason, btw. You can't be an atheist and join. You have to at least believe there's a higher power, which is something I can't say I do. So when I was asked to join, this fact was really stressed to me, and when I couldn't bring myself to change this belief, or should I say non-belief, it was a deal breaker. Since then, I've wondered why this rule of belief exists in Freemasonry, and the only thing I could/can come up with is that the Freemason's belief system, like most other belief systems, relies heavily on blind faith. And if you're an atheist, or the like, blind faith is an attribute you simply don't possess. So basically, during the indoctrination, an atheist eyes would be stuck on roll. Not good. And definitely not the desired reaction from new members.
 

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I think there are enough real conspiracies being perpetrated without all of the kook type stuff thrown out that wastes time and obfuscates. False flag operations are the most interesting to me.
 

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If there is any substance to a conspiracy theory, sooner or later there will be leaks or confirmations from credible sources. If it's just one person pushing a theory with no one to corroborate it, then I usually dismiss it. I think most conspiracy theories are created to garner attention, notoriety and cash, but a few are probably legitimate.
The self proclaimed prophet has spoken.:)
 

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people who believe our govt has pulled off any of these wild conspiracy plots are laughable. our govt isn't that capable, they are just incompetent.
 

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I agree. Well, to a point. I think Freemasonry is what you make it. A couple of my Masonic family members, God love'em, aren't the brightest people in the world. Well, I shouldn't say that, they're not dumb, I guess it would be better to say they just have a simple view of the world. Simple or not, they have good jobs and I honestly think Freemasonry just came along naturally with that. And I think they look at it as just a community activity, a social club basically. Life changing revelations aren't what they're looking for. Networking and Bro'ing out are though.

Now, behind their eyes, the secrets to the meaning of life could be dancing around, IDK, they ain't saying. But I'll say this, it certainly doesn't seem like Uncle J is struggling with some life altering secret knowledge. And if you knew him, you'd agree, trust me. We use to see him struggle not to breathe out of his mouth, but he's gotten so good at not doing it now, I would say "struggle" would be a little strong of a description. I mean, it definitely seems he's gotten past it.:pray:Still a great human being though.

Having said all that, I do believe, if you took it serious, really worked it, and moved up the degrees, that there is a alternative way of seeing the world waiting for you. IDK if it's something that actually could/should be believed in or if it's just another pie in the sky,"you got to have faith" explanation of how things work. But I think it's safe to say, there is a belief system to Masonry. One that's unlike any that you've seen or read about.

Which is why I'm not a Mason, btw. You can't be an atheist and join. You have to at least believe there's a higher power, which is something I can't say I do. So when I was asked to join, this fact was really stressed to me, and when I couldn't bring myself to change this belief, or should I say non-belief, it was a deal breaker. Since then, I've wondered why this rule of belief exists in Freemasonry, and the only thing I could/can come up with is that the Freemason's belief system, like most other belief systems, relies heavily on blind faith. And if you're an atheist, or the like, blind faith is an attribute you simply don't possess. So basically, during the indoctrination, an atheist eyes would be stuck on roll. Not good. And definitely not the desired reaction from new members.


Great story. Thanks for sharing that. I'd lie just to get in it. Prolly end up finding out it's free "nacho and cheese for life".
 
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I don't believe in ANYTHING, like Uli Kunkel - but the one religious artifact that is literally under the microscope of science and continues to baffle is, The Shroud of Turin.

That piece of cloth scares and amazes me. The image was burned into the cloth. The cloth was carbon dated to the early 00s . It truly has a chance to be I'm glad this has yet to be debunked by science yet and I hope it remains that way after I die.
 
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I guess I could tell the actual story of how I got ask to join.

First off, it wasn't good ole Uncle J who asked me. No, at the time I was asked I don't believe I even knew UJ was a Mason. I was 21 and I had a summer job in Versailes I drove a forklift and worked in a warehouse. My boss was this middle-age guy who took a liking to me pretty early on, which to me, was weird b/c he was my boss. It was only like my third job ever so being friends with the boss was foreign to me. He and I would take breaks together , eat lunch together, stuff like that.( Pretty romantic, huh?)

Well after awhile, when we got to know each other better, I started noticing he and I would always seem to get ourselves in these huge philosophical convo/arguments. Everyday, without fail, it seemed like one of this type conversations would get started. I didn't mind them at all really, but b/c he was my boss, I was weary about disagreeing with him as much as I did. But despite this weariness, I never did kiss up by just agreeing with him. If I thought he was wrong, I'd tell him.

These discussions went on another month or so. Then one day,we stumbled onto the topic of pre-history. Which more or less was, an ancient aliens type discussion. This was '97, '98 and I honestly didn't know, at that time, there was such a thing as an ancient alien theory. Which was odd, b/c even though I didn't have the knowledge there was a real world theory on the subject, I had came up with my own vague theory that was pretty damn close to the actual ancient alien theory. In the most vague sense possible, of course. I know that may not seem too likely, but it's true. And looking back, the one reason it could be that I was totally ignorant of the actual theory was that, much like my atheism, I kept this particular theory to myself. So those," Hey, if you think like that, you need to check out this book Chariot of the Gods" suggestions didn't happen, which in turn, would have made me aware of the whole AA theory.

Why am I spending so much time trying to convince you of, what seems to be, such an inconsequential fact to this story? Well, I think it actually had a lot to do with me being asked to join. And by it, I mean the fact that I had came up with this theory on my own, and I wasn't simply repeating what I had heard or read. There is another part to this, but it's coming up next in the story.

So, like I said, we're having this discussion on pre-history and pretty much off the bat I sensed something different in ole dude. He wasn't disagreeing with me as much as he was picking my brain. Which wasn't our normal back and forth at all. It was a lot of,"If that's true, wouldn't that also mean this is true." and, "why/how do you think that happened?" It wasn't his normal, " You're wrong and here's why." spiel. It was like, and this is the other part I mentioned earlier, that I had stumbled on some kind of truth and he wanted to see just how I had done it. Basically, was it dumb luck or had I actually thought it out. Now, whether the Masons have their own theories on ancient aliens, I couldn't say, but ole dude seemed way to comfortable with the subject for me.

This discussion went on 3 or 4 days, which again, wasn't normal hat for us. We would start other convos but he would always come back to this one. I'm boring myself, so I'm going to try and speed this up. For whatever reason, I can't remember why I did really, but I told him that I was an atheist. One of the few people I had ever dropped that on. And he took it well, but what really stuck out to me was after that,i t seemed he wasn't really concerned with convincing me to believe in the traditional God, as much as it seemed his concern, determination really, was centered around simply convincing me there was *a god*. It was just odd at the time.

So basically, during the course of him trying to convince me to believe in a god, he revealed he was a freemason(he wore a masonic ring the whole time I knew him btw and I had no clue) and he really thought a person with my mind set and and so on, can't remember how he put it, would be perfect for the masons. Minus the atheism part, of course. Why didn't I lie and say I had finally seen the light on the whole god thing? A few reasons really. But the main one, I chalk up to youthful idealism. I thought that way for a reason, and by god, you can't get me to go back on something that I believe to be true. Especially after I've vehemently defended my position for 3 or 4 days. Calling you hurtful names in the process The other reason, youthful ignorance. I wasn't as keen on the Masons as I am today. I remember the actual term devil worshipers coming to my mind back then.
 
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Interesting story 2blue. I like that kinda ****. Makes me think of Dan Brown and the Da Vinci Code.

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If you only knew how many times I've told that story.... and it's been in only the last 5 years or so. What makes that so strange to me is that b4 2010, the opportunity never really came up to tell that story. Not much Mason talk round the ole water cooler, you see. Then bam. ERRRBODY talkin bout dem masons. I guess the da vinci code(Dan Brown straight illuminati btw lol) did have something to do with it, but it's actually been more than just mason talk. Conspiracy theories in general have really been on the up tick. And no, I'm not basing that opinion on this thread.
 

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If you've only knew how many times I've told that story.... and it's been in only the last 5 years or so. What makes that so strange to me is that b4 2010, the opportunity never really came up to tell that story. Not much Mason talk round the ole water cooler, you see. Then bam. ERRRBODY talkin bout dem masons. I guess the da vinci code(Dan Brown straight illuminati btw lol) did have something to do with it, but it's actually been more than just mason talk. Conspiracy theories in general have really been on the up tick. And no, I'm not basing that opinion on this thread.


Totally agree. With everybody questioning everything, conspiracy theories, things run rampant. If kidnapping were legal. I would kidnap a Free Mason and water board them to give me the info I needed..
 
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