I'm dumbfounded with the "Mullen made young coach mistakes" talk...

thunderclap

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Hell, let's look:

1. We had four turnovers. FOUR. Against superior talent. And should have won.
2. We missed about 15 tackles on a ridiculous punt return. And we should have won.
3. On the goal line on 3rd and 4th, we have two very smart play calls and the QB blows both of them. If you don't believe me, go look at the replay and see how open Green is and see how open the pitch to Dixon is. Wide *** open.
4. They scored a defensive TD on our first offensive play, then we came right back down the field with a 70-something yard drive to get back even. Past State would have folded up immediately.
5. We botched a FG at the end of the half.
6. Our CBs are horrible.

All this and we outgained and out-physicaled the #7 team in the nation. If anything, I'd say Dan coached beyond his years, not the other way around.
 

Shmuley

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not having IV Ritalin on the sideline for Tyson Lee. That MFer has panic attacks that would make the shower ***** on "Psycho" say, "Damn, bruh, settle down."
 

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Brauchle had made six FGs in a row before that, then made another one in the second half. Since he did not get a foot on the baall, is he 7-of-9 on the season or 7-of-10. I'm thinking it just goes as a rush attempt by the holder.
 

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it looks like he dove early but if Dixon stretches the ball out on the 2nd down run he's in. Also, it would have helped if Lee had done the same thing on 4th. And I agree with all of your points...especially #3.
 

Agentdog

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The 3rd down play wasn't Lee's fault. #3 just made a hell of a play. #3 had to leap and stretch to reach the ball. Lee had some air under it.
 

AzzurriDawg4

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I am just saying that he could have put A LOT more loft on that ball. There wasnt really any arc on it. I don't think it was a good pass at all. That being said, C. Jones still made an unbelievable play. Shifting all the way over to the left and making that play was crazy. I would say it was about 70% awesome play by Jones and about 24% poor execution by Lee. 6% Indian burial ground.
 

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a problem with any of the calls I just wish Relf had been in there based on the situation but someone pointed out he was knocked silly earlier in the game and wasn't available. Mr. Dan Mullen has taken a pile of chicken **** and made some pretty good chicken salad.
 

Columbus Dawg

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The reason Chad Jones shifted left is because he was going after Dixon. A.D. brought him right into the passing lane. If Dixon had run left, we score easily.
 

AzzurriDawg4

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I just watched the goal line stand replay in its entirety for the first time. My thought process.

1. Holy shat, Dixon should have scored on 2nd down.
2. Holy shat, Green was wide open.
3. Holy shat, Jones made a great play.
4. Holy shat, that option was WIDE OPEN on 4th down.
5. Holy shat, Lee should have scored anyway.
6. 17
 

dogfan96

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without lobbing it and risking interception. I think he had to get it there quickly. Otherwise, Jones has a chance to make a better play on the ball.
 

Columbus Dawg

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exactly, jumping wouldn't have helped. I always thought that was a little bit for show anyway. And Tebow did it because he was faking the QB draw, we ran a play action. Tyson can't help that he's 5'9, 5'10. His arm angle was pointing upwards. And that's why it wasn't the proper call. But Chad Jones did jump about 40 inches and it would have worked if Dixon had run left or not gone over the pile. Not blaming Dixon. Good effort on his part.
 

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UCantStop15 said:
without lobbing it and risking interception. I think he had to get it there quickly. Otherwise, Jones has a chance to make a better play on the ball.
Mullen said that he called a 'jump pass' on that play. Tyson didn't really jump or lob the ball at all.
 

patdog

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And Lee did get some height on the pass, but not enough. He certainly didn't lob it.</p>
 

AzzurriDawg4

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momentum of the LSU defense was going forward. Lee could have shot the ball basketball style to Green. Jones was committed to the line, he could not have gotten back in time to get that ball. I am not as concerned that he didn't jump, just that he did not lob the ball. There is a difference between a lob and the pass that Lee threw. All that said, everything happened so fast. It is really hard to fault Lee. Like I said, 70% of it was a great play by Jones.
 

Shmuley

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Relf's bullett train of a pass ricocheting off Green's face mask had Jones not knocked it down. Green did drop the 2 point conversion at vandy.

Anyway, chalk it up to a lifetime of watching state. It forces you to imagine disasters.
 

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I personally thought it would've been better if Green ran more of an out and then lob it to him so there are no defenders around to bat it down. With everyone running toward our O-line, there's no way they stop on that muddy field and sprint to a lobbed ball for an INT.
 

AdamDawgDude

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Shmuley said:
Relf's bullett train of a pass ricocheting off Green's face mask had Jones not knocked it down. Green did drop the 2 point conversion at vandy.

Anyway, chalk it up to a lifetime of watching state. It forces you to imagine disasters.
Isn't that the truth.... I can't even explain the dam bursting flood of emotion caused by the LSU pick-six. Time to start taking shots--it's going to be another prison rape type of game.
 
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is that it put the game in tyson lee's hands, and we saw what happened. he is not smart enough or good enough to have the game in his hands. AD is our best player, put the game in his hands. if they stop our best player, so be it. But don't let one of your worst players control your fate.
 

Agentdog

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All that said, everything happened so fast. It is really hard to fault Lee. Like I said, 70% of it was a great play by Jones.

Exactly, the play happened so fast. Another player just made a great play. Sure Lee could have put some more air under it. But it is easy for us to say that now. I just wanted to point out that Jones wasn't exactly standing flat footed when he swatted the ball down.

Also, I think the Indian Burial spirits gave Jones a 6th sense on that play. As Columbus pointed out, he was coming over into the passing lane in reaction to Dixon and had enough quick thinking to see Dixon without the ball, look up, and leap.

In response to this thread in general....

Overall on the series, my initial reaction was the 3rd and 4th downs were bad calls. However, the more I review the plays and the disappointment fades and I read Mullen's take. I think the plays were good calls. LSU was selling out up the middle and they have more horses than us in there at this point. So good call by the coaches to reconize that in real time.
 

lawdawg02

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because anyone close is supposed to go for the runner. going away from the run fake, a backside defender is more likely to feel out of the play and stay at home.

you throw it over the pile because everyone has pinched down on the run. it was a great call. jones just made an outstanding play to come from the backside, realize what was happening, and make the play.
 

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That would go as a rushing attempt instead of a missed FG. I mean, if we pick up the first down or score a TD, it would count as a rushing attempt... so I don't see why it would be considered a missed FG attempt. Unless there's some kind of strange rule I'm missing.