I'm going to give Croom credit.............

futaba.79

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for signing Saulsberry, Lawrence and Brignone. According to GP, we beat people like Memphis, UT-Martin, Rice and Ark St for these guys and all three are decent SEC OLinemen. He gets credit for Broomfield too - who would have ever guessed he'd make a quality CB? There are others worth mentioning, like Relf. Obviously, he never would've done anything under Croom, but he is here because of him. </p>

I also give him credit for setting up a good class for Mullen to sign. No doubt, all the newcomers that played are Mullen's signees, but Croom got it started.</p>

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futaba.79

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for signing Saulsberry, Lawrence and Brignone. According to GP, we beat people like Memphis, UT-Martin, Rice and Ark St for these guys and all three are decent SEC OLinemen. He gets credit for Broomfield too - who would have ever guessed he'd make a quality CB? There are others worth mentioning, like Relf. Obviously, he never would've done anything under Croom, but he is here because of him. </p>

I also give him credit for setting up a good class for Mullen to sign. No doubt, all the newcomers that played are Mullen's signees, but Croom got it started.</p>

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maroonmania

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that now looks to be a good one is Corey Broomfield. Looks like he is going to be a good CB for the next few years.
 

mstatefanatic

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for leaving Mullen with the shortest starting quarterback in SEC history. Tyson's a great guy, but their are QB's in Division 2 that probably give us a better chance to go bowling this year. Thanks Croom!!
 
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except QB and WR. He didn't recruit near hard enough 2004-2006, each class had like 1-3 good players.
 

therightway

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Our O Line sucked because he used the zone blocking scheme used in the NFL. We were successful this year by getting defenses out of position. We also did a great job of teaching AD to allow the play to develop.</p>
 

whatever.sixpack

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I was thinking about posting the same thing for awhile now, but I figured I'd just be attacked.</p>

This entire offensive line is very good and pretty deep. Next year should be the best line we've had since 2000, and he identified all these guys, with Sherrod being the only "really highly recruited one." And it's not like they void of talent and this staff worked an overnight miracle, they just look a lot better b/c of the scheme.</p>

Defensively, Broomfield may be the best corner we've had in awhile, better than Anthony Johnson in my opinion. If he would've recruited a QB things may have looked a bit differently looking back on it.</p>
 
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Croom always said Templeton was the one who gave him a chance/helped him out/etc. but the fact of the matter is Templeton made Croom into a lazy complacent bum bc of no accountability. After THREE WHOLE YEARS Croom finally started feeling some heat, and started recruiting and working harder but still never got rid of his stubbornness.</p>

Croom's first three years were a complete and absolute joke of recruiting, coaching, etc. I feel sorry for all those players who were a part of it.</p>

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ckDOG

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I'm not prepared to give him credit for anything other than being well versed in operating a golf cart.

Credit from me for the OL goes to offensive scheme, Hevesy, and Balis.
 

GBryne4Heisman

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especially for the last class he signed. Tyler Russell, Bumpis, Montrell Conner, Leon Berry, Cox and Boyd (I think) all those guys committed to Croom. Credit to Mullen and Bryne (yeah remember him calling recruits) to hanging on to them.

Croom's problem was w/ a QB. He finally found one in Russell, but 4 years is too long to wait.

OL guys are decent, but Bailis and Hevesy deserve the credit IMO.
 

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Russell either. There was an interview with him around signing day where he started looking at other options before Croom was fired. Mullen brought the pressure and he re-confirmed his commitment.</p>

Bumphis was definitely not coming here.</p>

Along with Berry....Brauchle and Hutchins weren't being recruited by the previous staff either.</p>

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GBryne4Heisman said:
especially for the last class he signed. Tyler Russell, Bumpis, Montrell Conner, Leon Berry, Cox and Boyd (I think) all those guys committed to Croom. Credit to Mullen and Bryne (yeah remember him calling recruits) to hanging on to them.

Croom's problem was w/ a QB. He finally found one in Russell, but 4 years is too long to wait.

OL guys are decent, but Bailis and Hevesy deserve the credit IMO.
First of all that isn't the last class he signed. Secondly, neither Leon Berry or Bumphis committed to Croom so you are just flat wrong there. Lastly, at least one of Conner, Cox, or Boyd was gone if Croom had been retained. So yeah, I'm not giving that worthless piece of crap one ounce of credit.
 

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ckDOG said:
I'm not prepared to give him credit for anything other than being well versed in operating a golf cart.

Credit from me for the OL goes to offensive scheme, Hevesy, and Balis.

I can bring myself to give Croom credit for falling bassackwards into recruits at many positions other than QB and WR that chose MSU over storied programs at JSU, UAB, and Memphis and that Mullen and the staff were able to turn into decent or better players. I will also give him credit for not rubbing off on the players more and turning them into fat, lazy 17ers. Most of them, such as dixon, were just heavier than they should have been but still wanted to win. That's much better than the players having to ride a golf cart to practice b/c they're so 17ing fat and lazy and looking back on it, I appreciate that Croom didn't instill that work ethic into his players to that extent.
 

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He said a bowl game doesn't impact recruiting right away because folks are already committed at that time. He said the biggest impact would be the year after and that's what we're seeing.

Guess we should have kept him. /sarcasm
 

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with the fact that Grimes was horrible as an o-line coach and the fact that our strength and conditioning was atrocious. Look at the size of Addison Lawrence last year compared to this year. And then there's the fact that Croom had people like Quentin Saulsberry playing OT when he is clearly a guard or maybe even a center.

The bottom line is Croom didn't know what the hell he was doing.
 

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PBRME said:
Russell either. There was an interview with him around signing day where he started looking at other options before Croom was fired. Mullen brought the pressure and he re-confirmed his commitment.</p>

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He wavered (if you would even call it that) after Croom was fired. </p>

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Edited to add: Hutchins and Brauchle were both being heavily recruited by the previous staff as well. The guys who came up after the staff change were Berry, Heavens, Hood, Slay, Rico Sanders.</p>Edited to also say: This is just to point out the actual events. Don't take this a bashing Mullen or supporting Croom. It's not. I'm very pleased with our current situation and wouldn't change it in the least.
 

dawgstudent

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we were a backup plan for either Brauchle or Hutchins when Croom recruited them. I think it was Brauchle

Leon Berry was going to USM until Mullen was hired.
 

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Broomfield has done a good job but he is not near the athlete Johnson was. Not even close.

He may end up being a better corner, but we'll never know.
 

jcdawgman18

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he was waiting on an Alabama offer that never came. But we were recruiting him heavily.</p>

Again, this isn't in support of the former or bashing the present, it's just laying out the series of events.</p>
 

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futaba said:
for signing Saulsberry, Lawrence and Brignone. According to GP, we beat people like Memphis, UT-Martin, Rice and Ark St for these guys and all three are decent SEC OLinemen. He gets credit for Broomfield too - who would have ever guessed he'd make a quality CB? <span style="font-weight: bold;">There are others worth mentioning, like Relf</span>. Obviously, he never would've done anything under Croom, but he is here because of him.</p>

I also give him credit for setting up a good class for Mullen to sign. No doubt, all the newcomers that played are Mullen's signees, but Croom got it started.</p>
Am I imagining this or didn't Croom say something preseason like "If Chris doesn't find himself soon he will be gone"? Pretty sure Croom wanted to cut him, probably to make room for ole Josh Hollingsworth from AL who didn't even see the field for mighty Furman.
 

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because I just realized from the year end stats that Dan "Spread the Fun" Mullen's first team outgained Sly "the Running Backs Guru" by 100 yards per game on the ground. Jesus christ... All buffet jokes aside, was there anything at all that Croom was actually competent at?
 

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while i do give croom some credit for the players, lets not forget that they looked below average under him and his coaching staff last year... i think croom is a good man and he did a great job cleaning up the image of our program... but lets not forget that mullen took these players with a few of his freshman and was super competitive playing the toughest schedule in the country... i shiver when i think about a croom led team against that schedule...