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DancingRabbit

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Typical Ole Miss journalist move. Put Keenum and MSU logo in the pic.

17 off Ryan Brown. I'm sure you couldn't find a pic of Dan Jones without Dr. Keenum and the MSU logo. Eat your own **** sandwich.
 

ronpolk

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This stuff is getting very interesting. That article certainly does not paint butler snow in a good light.
 

Hail State

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The fact a Cotton Mouth blogger contributed to this tells you every thing you need to know.
 

Xenomorph

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Speaking from a position of complete ignorance.. what does it tell us?
 

Hail State

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Speaking from a position of complete ignorance.. what does it tell us?

Just one quick look at that site and the first five posts are anti GOP. That whole site exists just to spew liberal propaganda & hate, but that's probably your thing.
 

thatsbaseball

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The chancellor`s position at any of our universities should be a apolitical. Dr. Jones apparently has liberal political leanings that may have affected some of his administrative decisions. The IHL (which should also be apolitical) in this state is a group that is appointed by politicians. This IHL was appointed by conservative politicians. The outcome, whether you like it or not , is anything but unpredictable.

I am surprised however that Dr. Jones` alledged support of Obamacare has not been made more visible in this whole CF. Not a big plus for Dr. Jones in this state IMO.
 

johnson86-1

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This stuff is getting very interesting. That article certainly does not paint butler snow in a good light.

Well I think we all know one law school graduate that didn't get an offer from Butler Snow. I'm no particular fan of Butler Snow, but he completely misrepresents them. They have certainly been growing, but they didn't somehow explode because of hiring Barbour. They have always been the connected firm in Mississippi and have always relied on political connections. No different than any other prestigious firm, just more successful (at least in MS) because they were the only home grown firm swimming in those waters and therefor ponied up the most money when somebody like Barbour becomes available. He also misrepresented who works for them, with at least one of the persons cited to show their nefarious connections not even working for a law firm period.
 

AHSDawg

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Do you know that the article was written by Ronnie Musgrove? former Governor of the state of MS? Reading (and understanding what we read) is FUNdamental...
 

AHSDawg

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I do not think he is 'hating' on Butler Snow as much as he is really just bringing to light exactly how much they are benefitting from the contracts with the State of MS right now. Sure, there is always going to be attorneys hating on other attorneys that get the fat contracts from the state. But, one would think that they spread the wealth at least some. I think most are not realizing that Butler Snow is the feeder program for getting in and retiring from state politics right now and the taxpayer is helping fund it.
 

Hail State

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Do you know that the article was written by Ronnie Musgrove? former Governor of the state of MS? Reading (and understanding what we read) is FUNdamental...

Well no **** it was written by Musgrove. Did YOU even read the entire article? It says right at the bottom that the Cotton Mouth blog contributed to the article. It's like I'm playing cards with my brother' skids.
 

ShrubDog

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Just one quick look at that site and the first five posts are anti GOP. That whole site exists just to spew liberal propaganda & hate, but that's probably your thing.

The former Gov. Boss Hog is running a racket. This has nothing to do with political parties.
 

vhdawg

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Is this the same former governor Ronnie Musgrove who's behind a scheme to sue the state for a quarter of a BILLION DOLLARS for not fully funding MAEP, and profiting off the lawyer's fees should he be successful?
 

ronpolk

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Well I think we all know one law school graduate that didn't get an offer from Butler Snow. I'm no particular fan of Butler Snow, but he completely misrepresents them. They have certainly been growing, but they didn't somehow explode because of hiring Barbour. They have always been the connected firm in Mississippi and have always relied on political connections. No different than any other prestigious firm, just more successful (at least in MS) because they were the only home grown firm swimming in those waters and therefor ponied up the most money when somebody like Barbour becomes available. He also misrepresented who works for them, with at least one of the persons cited to show their nefarious connections not even working for a law firm period.

I'll admit that he does seem to have an axe to grind with butler snow but you got to admit it's a little odd butler snow gets so much "state work". There are several firms in jackson capable of doing what butler snow does but they are never given the opportunity. The legal work should be bid out like everything else.
 

johnson86-1

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Well no **** it was written by Musgrove. Did YOU even read the entire article? It says right at the bottom that the Cotton Mouth blog contributed to the article. It's like I'm playing cards with my brother' skids.

Yeah, I don't understand who wrote the article. What does it mean that Ryan Brown "contributed" to writing the article.

It is funny that Musgrove would criticize anybody else for trying to profit off the gov't, when he's trying to pull in tens of million of dollars in a BS suit that if it were successful, would be tens of millions of dollars that would come out of school's money.
 

esplanade91

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Dear God, Ronnie Musgrove cannot write. Why do people continue to give this guy a platform? And how does a guy without the ability to structure clear thoughts into a paragraph go on to become governor?
 

Xenomorph

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More qwerstions from the ignorant peanut gallery.. Why the inclusion of an MSU photo at the top of that article when there is no mention of MSU IN the article?

Oh.. and the article never states Jones was standing in the way of Butler Snow becoming the attorneys of record for all things bear-related. Was I supposed to infer that? ...Because I get the feeling Musgrove intends me to believe Jones was fired to clear the way for Butler Snow to do business in the grove. What is that article really about, other than Barbour is currently making stupid amounts of money?
 
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ShrubDog

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Well if you look at the picture closely there are OM emblems on the back drop just like MSU's. Lets get that cleared up.
 

was21

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Actually, that's not an accurate description of the site. The site is an antidote to the right wing extremist philosophy that is holding the state of Mississippi back 50 to 100 years and maintaining the status quo..hence, no progress.
 

AHSDawg

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Uh, you do realize that 'contributed to an article' is just a euphemism 99% of the time, right? Does anyone here think that Ronnie Musgrove is so busy/popular/interesting that he lends his name to an article in a state where he isn't really that well liked just to get press? Are you serious? what the hell does he have to gain by ghostwriting an article calling out lobbyists that will stonewall him on the contracts he would love to get?

Knowing Ronnie Musgrove, I would bet a LOT of money that 99.9% of that article was written by him. That doesn't even take any effort if you know him.

And one politician in a poor state that has made off well calling out other politicians in a poor state that have made off well is just a staple of Mississippi politics. I am confused as to what your point is. (which is why you seem to not understand the article). If you read and take this article or any article on the topic as anything new, you haven't spent much time in Mississippi politics.
 

AHSDawg

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Hell, ALL of the former Governors are running a racket. The only victims are still the residents of the state. The only ones doing well are the ones leading the propaganda and hate (From both parties). And if you think that the propaganda and hate are only being spewed by one side, I really don't have anything to help you...
 

Drebin

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Actually, that's not an accurate description of the site. The site is an antidote to the right wing extremist philosophy that is holding the state of Mississippi back 50 to 100 years and maintaining the status quo..hence, no progress.

This is why you can't have political debates, because most liberals are idiots.

Me: I want a say in what schools are teaching my kids, what's acceptable cultural behavior, and how my tax dollars are used.
You: Right wing extremist!

ISIS is right-wing extremism. Context is important.


Lock it up!
 

AHSDawg

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THIS is why you cannot have discussions "most liberals are idiots"... because these phrases exist...

And the people that spew them are just so sure that they are not idiots themselves.
 

Strike.sixpack

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Well if you look at the picture closely there are OM emblems on the back drop just like MSU's. Lets get that cleared up.

If you have to look closely then the pic shouldn't be there. The focal point of the pic puts State and our president as center stage. At the very least it is sloppy. At worse it was done on purpose and causes people to question the integrity of the article. If you will do something petty and purposefully misleading with just the picture then it makes the article questionable.
 

Philly Dawg

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"Contributed to" likely means that some amount of the factual material in the article was provided by that person.
 

drt7891

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Well this didn't take long... This is why I loath politics. No one wants to discuss politics, they either want to tell you how you are a "liberal idiot" or a "right-wing extremist." Can we grow up, please?
 

RebelBruiser

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Likely a simple explanation for the pic. This is posted on Huffington Post.

Who here thinks they know Ole Miss is not Mississippi State is not Ole Miss? Probably just did a google search of Ole Miss President or Mississippi University President, and boom.
 

Strike.sixpack

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And either of the two writers could not have contacted the editor and point it out that it was incorrect and sloppy? It can't be changed in 2 min? I understand Musgrove probably wouldn't but anything in my name I will proof and ok before being published. It was sloppy and most of the readers who are really interested in the article (Mississippian's) know exactly the difference between the two.
 

AHSDawg

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There is zero respect in our society anymore for someone's own beliefs. They feel that THEIR beliefs should be honored but to hell with you if you do not feel the way they do.
 

rem101

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They didn't know which man was who, or which school was which, so put them both on there and can't be wrong.**
 

ShrubDog

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A little background about my views...17 both sides of the fence. I have nothing for anyone.

Hell, ALL of the former Governors are running a racket. The only victims are still the residents of the state. The only ones doing well are the ones leading the propaganda and hate (From both parties). And if you think that the propaganda and hate are only being spewed by one side, I really don't have anything to help you...
 

johnson86-1

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I'll admit that he does seem to have an axe to grind with butler snow but you got to admit it's a little odd butler snow gets so much "state work". There are several firms in jackson capable of doing what butler snow does but they are never given the opportunity. The legal work should be bid out like everything else.

You can't really bid out professional work. There can be pretty significant differences in quality of work even within firms, much less across them. Not bidding them out means they get handed out on the basis of relationships, which can be pretty bad too. But bidding them out just ensures you get the most desperate bidder, and there's no spec sheet to hold them too.
 
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I don't give much of a care about this particular issue, but the great thing about this article is that it puts some sunshine into the hidden holes into which our state funds are being passed out. We need an open contract process. We need to put a stop to the appointed leaders of state agencies passing out millions of our dollars without suitable scrutiny. I don't care who else is doing it; Mississippi is already close to third world status because of it and it needs to be stopped and stopped hard.
 

fedxdog

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i never remember robery khyat supporting anyone for governor of MS...BUT

i do believe i remember dan jones supporting the democrat running against phil bryant in his first run for governor after haley barbour was term limited and the word on the street then was that phil bryant was mad as hell about that endorsement and swore revenge...payback is hell!
 

bulldogbaja

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Exactly... somewhere in there he failed to connect his arguments.
Here's my point as to why this is stupid: is Keenum a partner at butler snow? Is any other MS university president? If you are going to make this argument you have to also show how this makes Jones different from any other president.
 

Bulldogg31

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Not sure you want a state completely run by the lowest bidders.

Also, very many large political donors give money to BOTH sides, and anyone else that has a shot to win. Its just good business.
 
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Not sure you want a state completely run by the lowest bidders.

Also, very many large political donors give money to BOTH sides, and anyone else that has a shot to win. Its just good business.

Is there somebody who said they want the state run by the lowest bidders? Where does this idea come from?
 
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