According to some fans WVU donors have the money already.Unless you have $9 million, you will be out next year too.
You still here? LMAO It was like you never left *****.Thanks c*nt
Sorry that I don't believe message board "insider info". Believe it when I see it.According to some fans WVU donors have the money already.
The expert insiders currently say 6-6 or worse and he's done. 7-5 and it's 50-50.Sorry that I don't believe message board "insider info". Believe it when I see it.
Example: "SEC done deal"
Yep never left yet. Wanted to make sure you had a good towel to wipe your p*ssy off.You still here? LMAO It was like you never left *****.
Ticket sales are not as big a concern anymore due to TV and media contracts shelling out millions upon millions to teams in conference.Wvu has to take the pill and fire him. At this point the money losses in ticket sales will start among other things. Wren should be sitting down and getting Neal to agree to a lower buyout. He has not honored his contract in the way that he is competent at what he was hired to do.
Should have fired him last year on 4th and 1 against Pitt.Should’ve fired him after the 30 yard penalty.
That's sweet of you, but I am not the one one bitching on a message board that Im done,Yep never left yet. Wanted to make sure you had a good towel to wipe your p*ssy off.
I watch them. Don't like what I see but I watch. Have been since the mid 60's.Wouldn’t blame anyone for bailing on this program. Clown Brown has destroyed it and has no idea how to fix it. After all, there are no “Coaching Winning College Football for Dummies” books out there. None of us has to follow WVU football, donate to it, root for it, attend games or watch it on TV. It’s our choice and Clown Brown has made cleaning the gutters and raking leaves on Saturdays an attractive alternative to watching this garbage WVU is giving us. Then again, some people like watching a train wreck.
Wouldn’t blame anyone for bailing on this program. Clown Brown has destroyed it and has no idea how to fix it. After all, there are no “Coaching Winning College Football for Dummies” books out there. None of us has to follow WVU football, donate to it, root for it, attend games or watch it on TV. It’s our choice and Clown Brown has made cleaning the gutters and raking leaves on Saturdays an attractive alternative to watching this garbage WVU is giving us. Then again, some people like watching a train wreck.
Every program goes through cycles. We will win again. Most likely with another HC.I watch them. Don't like what I see but I watch. Have been since the mid 60's.
If you don't want to watch that's fine and your right. But don't come here bitching if you don't support and or watch anymore.
WVU has been on a downward slope for the past 16 years now. Brown has us at rock bottom and in a mud hole.Every program goes through cycles. We will win again. Most likely with another HC.
You don't know much about SLC and surrounding area. And they have a ton of money. Need to try and think of another example because that was a big fail if you are trying to make a point.Utah is not a talent rich area and it does well every year.
BRU/VGA is a butthurt Karen who doesn't know what she's talking about.Utah is not a talent rich area and it does well every year.
Yeah. While I understand in the era of NIL, programs like WVU took a big hit towards annually competing on a national level. That said, penciling teams like Houston as a guaranteed win in year 1 of their conference affiliation shouldn’t be unrealistic. Certainly 8 wins this year shouldn’t have been unrealistic.I do believe better days are ahead. But I also believe fans expectations need to be reduced and behavior needs to improve. In today's college football world, it takes a talent rich area and money rich environment to get players. Greatest coach ever existed won't win without players. And West Virginia is not in a talent rich area and can't compete with many top programs with money. Fake fans that are constantly bitching need to find something else to do.
Don't disagree at all. But still have to play 60 minutes and give full effort the entire time as these games are tough. Unfortunately have lost the last two. Let's hope the team can turn it around. I know I will be supporting the team to do their best and not act like a panty-wipe like some that just posted.Yeah. While I understand in the era of NIL, programs like WVU took a big hit towards annually competing on a national level. That said, penciling teams like Houston as a guaranteed win in year 1 of their conference affiliation shouldn’t be unrealistic. Certainly 8 wins this year shouldn’t have been unrealistic.
So, how many top-notch players come out of Utah!You don't know much about SLC and surrounding area. And they have a ton of money. Need to try and think of another example because that was a big fail if you are trying to make a point.
Don't count on "big donors". They are being leaned on for a lot of current budget issues at WVU. Football wins and losses have fallen down the list of needs and have to areas. However, if a new coach...read into this a popular name...accepts a low ball deal while Brown alters his payout then...could be a happening.Ticket sales are not as big a concern anymore due to TV and media contracts shelling out millions upon millions to teams in conference.
Now the Big donors pulling out is a different story all together.
Once again have been told that the money is there Wren and Gee just have to give the say so.
I didn't believe it before either but this is from a very reliable source on the BL.
I'm sure every other program in the conference had that same mindset even moreso considering WVU was picked to finish last. The entitlement attitude of some of our fans is remarkable.Yeah. While I understand in the era of NIL, programs like WVU took a big hit towards annually competing on a national level. That said, penciling teams like Houston as a guaranteed win in year 1 of their conference affiliation shouldn’t be unrealistic. Certainly 8 wins this year shouldn’t have been unrealistic.
It is not entitlement and you miss the point of most fans' dissent. We have a head coach in his 5th year and his biggest accomplishment is a 6 win season with weak bowl win over Army by a few points. The fact that WVU was picked dead last in a conference that includes BYU, UCF, Cincy, Houston, Kansas, KSU, TCU and ISU is precisely because we have a HC with no accomplishments nor any signs of getting some soon. 10 years ago being a doormat to ALL of those programs mentioned above would have been unfathomable to WVU. So the "entitled" fans are not upset that WVU is not having a great season despite being at a disadvantage. Rather we are upset because WVU should not be so disadvantaged in the first place. And the fact that Brown is not exceeding that abysmal expectation in any significant way during his 5th campaign shows he is not a HC worth keeping at WVU.I'm sure every other program in the conference had that same mindset even moreso considering WVU was picked to finish last. The entitlement attitude of some of our fans is remarkable.
It isn't 10 years ago. It is now. To have the mindset we are greater than any program just because is stupid. Are we under performing? Yes. Is it because we should be greater? No. We are underperforming because we have good players with little depth and make way too many mistakes for 60 minutes on most Saturdays. Is that a coaching problem? Yes, the coaching staff is responsible.It is not entitlement and you miss the point of most fans' dissent. We have a head coach in his 5th year and his biggest accomplishment is a 6 win season with weak bowl win over Army by a few points. The fact that WVU was picked dead last in a conference that includes BYU, UCF, Cincy, Houston, Kansas, KSU, TCU and ISU is precisely because we have a HC with no accomplishments nor any signs of getting some soon. 10 years ago being a doormat to ALL of those programs mentioned above would have been unfathomable to WVU. So the "entitled" fans are not upset that WVU is not having a great season despite being at a disadvantage. Rather we are upset because WVU should not be so disadvantaged in the first place. And the fact that Brown is not exceeding that abysmal expectation in any significant way during his 5th campaign shows he is not a HC worth keeping at WVU.
You know what is really stupid? Making a second account (VGA) to whine with because you have mental issues is really stupid.It isn't 10 years ago. It is now. To have the mindset we are greater than any program just because is stupid. Are we under performing? Yes. Is it because we should be greater? No. We are underperforming because we have good players with little depth and make way too many mistakes for 60 minutes on most Saturdays. Is that a coaching problem? Yes, the coaching staff is responsible.
Please realize what? That you feel entitled? I dont care what you did on this message board. You can block me with both of your accounts if you cant handle my dislike of Brown and my love of WVU football lol. You certainly know where the block button is by now dont you? You have been trolling me for months with both of your accounts. You've been butthurt since the summer at fans who are done with Neal Brown. I dont care that you love Brown, but you care that I dont lol. I never started **** with you, but I will play your name calling game, and that bothers you lol. Fk off weenie.Dude, show your immature *** all you want. I won't engage with you. But please realize I have been a member of this board and mostly on the OT board since inception. Quit the BS of your warped accusations and just stick to being a dickhead if you wish.
That’s only a matter of perceived perception. Yes, WV as a state lacks the number of quality football talent needed to compete at this level. However, as Huggins once said, Morgantown sits within a short drive to many major metropolitan areas like Pittsburgh, Baltimore, DC, Columbus, Richmond, Roanoke etc. There’s a lot of talent in all the bordering states. The solution is to find a quality HC who can sell the WVU brand to these recruits. Nehlen, Rodriguez, and even Bill Stewart were successful in this.I do believe better days are ahead. But I also believe fans expectations need to be reduced and behavior needs to improve. In today's college football world, it takes a talent rich area and money rich environment to get players. Greatest coach ever existed won't win without players. And West Virginia is not in a talent rich area and can't compete with many top programs with money. Fake fans that are constantly bitching need to find something else to do.
I don't disagree at all with this comment and Huggins previous comment. But it is hard and takes time to build relationships recruiting outside of one's backyard. And it is much tougher now as money is the most important tool in recruiting in this today's environment. I expect a coach to do well in recruiting but turning over coaches every 4-5 years will lead to nothing. Need to get the right coach and keep him. Is Brown the right coach? Many on here think he isn't. But just firing him and bringing in another doesn't mean things will get better in terms of wins and losses immediately.That’s only a matter of perceived perception. Yes, WV as a state lacks the number of quality football talent needed to compete at this level. However, as Huggins once said, Morgantown sits within a short drive to many major metropolitan areas like Pittsburgh, Baltimore, DC, Columbus, Richmond, Roanoke etc. There’s a lot of talent in all the bordering states. The solution is to find a quality HC who can sell the WVU brand to these recruits. Nehlen, Rodriguez, and even Bill Stewart were successful in this.
Yes, we need some longevity in our HC, but we can’t settle for a losing HC like Neal Brown. At the end of the day, it’s about results.I don't disagree at all with this comment and Huggins previous comment. But it is hard and takes time to build relationships recruiting outside of one's backyard. And it is much tougher now as money is the most important tool in recruiting in this today's environment. I expect a coach to do well in recruiting but turning over coaches every 4-5 years will lead to nothing. Need to get the right coach and keep him. Is Brown the right coach? Many on here think he isn't. But just firing him and bringing in another doesn't mean things will get better in terms of wins and losses immediately.
Yeah I agree it will take money and talent rich in areas. We have had that talent before and when we didn't the coaches had the ability to coach up a player. Look at Hostetler, PSU wanted him to be a LB. Nehlen gave him the chance. Pat was recruited as a safety by bigger teams like LSU and Auburn. Rod gave him his chance.I do believe better days are ahead. But I also believe fans expectations need to be reduced and behavior needs to improve. In today's college football world, it takes a talent rich area and money rich environment to get players. Greatest coach ever existed won't win without players. And West Virginia is not in a talent rich area and can't compete with many top programs with money. Fake fans that are constantly bitching need to find something else to do.
Exactly! There’s no excuse for this in the 5th year. It’s not like WVU is playing a gauntlet of BlueBlood programs. Similar programs and programs of lesser historical stature are getting it done in the same time frame or less that Brown has had at WVU. Let Brown finish the season. Anything less than 8 wins should be the defining factor. If he gets 8 wins, keep him. If not, make a change. This schedule should be very favorable to a good record.Yeah I agree it will take money and talent rich in areas. We have had that talent before and when we didn't the coaches had the ability to coach up a player. Look at Hostetler, PSU wanted him to be a LB. Nehlen gave him the chance. Pat was recruited as a safety by bigger teams like LSU and Auburn. Rod gave him his chance.
Expectations should be higher than what has been shown on the field. Constant bitching and bickering yes should be set aside. I've done enough of it myself but the past 5 years have shown the work is not getting done there is a massive hole somewhere in the organization and I believe that starting at the top with the BOG and EGG can certainly begin the healing.