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MaroonNation

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Jackie Sherrill used bowl eligibility to ensure he would return next year. He could have cared less to win it. It's satisfying to have a coach that wants to win them.
 

Shamoan

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i just hope we get a good matchup....any big 10 team would do and northwestern would be nice motivation.
 

121Josey

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Jackie Sherrill used bowl eligibility to ensure he would return next year. He could have cared less to win it. It's satisfying to have a coach that wants to win them.

Are you talking about a coach that had his quarterback play through a hangover, allegedly? That watched the QB throw 4 INT's (all leading to pts) while sending him to the locker room to wash his face? Lost to a team that had never won a bowl game? Merlin has had his share of bad performances.
 

hatfieldms

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And he has had more than his fair share of good ones

Of course that doesn't help when you are just looking to be a jack *** 24/7
 

121Josey

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Of course that doesn't help when you are just looking to be a jack *** 24/7

Oh, you mean the first Gator Bowl and the Liberty Bowl? I know you don't mean the no-show against Wake Forrest. Wow, then Jackie had his fair share of good ones.

Get off my ***, jackass.
 

Go Budaw

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Are you talking about a coach that had his quarterback play through a hangover, allegedly? That watched the QB throw 4 INT's (all leading to pts) while sending him to the locker room to wash his face? Lost to a team that had never won a bowl game? Merlin has had his share of bad performances.

Playing with a hangover? What in the hell are you talking about? If you're talking about Tyler Russell in the 2013 Gator Bowl, I can guarantee you no one has ever alleged that, and its a pretty ****** thing for you to suggest based on no evidence whatsoever. Tyler Russell is probably the last guy that would ever pull something like that.
 
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hatfieldms

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You mean the Wake Forrest game we won?

Seriously, you sound like an idiot. Good Lord it's like you search for things to ***** about
 

121Josey

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Seriously, you sound like an idiot. Good Lord it's like you search for things to ***** about

We won! Great! One of the worst bowl games I've ever seen. We lose if not for a dominant performance by Fletcher Cox.

But somebody says that Jackie never tried to win bowl games but Dan always has the team ready. I say that's wishful thinking, so I am the bad guy. What it comes down to is that if anyone says anything negative about Dan or Dak, the sheep turn into goats. Unreal. And since you're a little slow, yeah, i'm talking to about you hatfield.
 

121Josey

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Ok. I think you're right. You have an uncanny way to read people and you know I'm not going to win this debate. And I respect that.


You're right about Sherrill..he definitely played the odds. Two teams that he never seemed to prepare for were LSU (anywhere) and Arkansas (in their stadium). I could always tell by the tone of his voice in the pregame radio show whether or not we were going to win. If he was laughing and talking about how good they were, I knew we didn't have a chance. Other times it was different..he had a certain seriousness about him and I knew we had a chance. He always wanted to win the "month." (emphasis mine)
 

hatfieldms

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I have criticized Mullen and the staff pretty over the years

They are far from perfect. You just seem to constantly take an idiotic stance on a lot of things. That's fine though. Knock yourself out
 

121Josey

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They are far from perfect. You just seem to constantly take an idiotic stance on a lot of things. That's fine though. Knock yourself out

Thanks. I just try not to drink the kool-aid. Contrary to popular belief, popular opinion isn't always helpful or the only opinion.
 

hatfieldms

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Never said it was

You just seem to take the opposite opinion on most things just for the sake of arguing. Like I said. Knock yourself out
 

ronpolk

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Are you talking about a coach that had his quarterback play through a hangover, allegedly? That watched the QB throw 4 INT's (all leading to pts) while sending him to the locker room to wash his face? Lost to a team that had never won a bowl game? Merlin has had his share of bad performances.

Alleged by who? You? I've never heard that before. A pretty awful thing to try and spread around about a guy who by all accounts seems like a great guy.
 

MaroonNation

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I'm taking it you weren't around for the Sherrill days. He also didn't waste any effort on some regular season games. If you can't see the contrast between Mullen and Sherrill then you probably thought Crxxmz got a bad wrap too.
 

CochiseCowbell

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This thread went from bowl eligibility to drunk QB's. One would think we lost. Sigh, down the SPS Rabbit Hole again.
 

AFDawg

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The hungover Tyler Russell theory might be the single most outlandish message board theory I've ever read.
 

TheStateUofMS

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You just seem to take the opposite opinion on most things just for the sake of arguing. Like I said. Knock yourself out


75-75 record is better for him than Dan's record. Let it go Hatfield. He probably has LT as his fav AD too.
 

HD6

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No, he's clearly talking about Tyler Russell....

I'm thinking from his Wake Forrest comment he's talking about Relf? Brand new theory to me.

because he says something about 4 INTs in the game. That was the Gator Bowl.
 

BiscuitEater

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Go with the stats ..

Thanks. I just try not to drink the kool-aid. Contrary to popular belief, popular opinion isn't always helpful or the only opinion.

Jackie took his teams to 6 Bowls in 13 years (46%) and won 2 of the 6 (33%) .. lost the first 4, won the last 2 including the 'snow' bowl

Dan (will take) his teams to 6 Bowls in 7 years (86%) and has won 3 of 5 (60%) .. tying Jackie for number of bowls and already holds # of bowl wins record with 3 at State.

Yes, it's easier to go to bowls now than in '91, but I'm not complaining. It is good for the team and good for us fans.
 

johnson86-1

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because he says something about 4 INTs in the game. That was the Gator Bowl.

I thought he was implying the hungover game and 4 int game were separate because he talked about performances, but he also said "the" qb after the hungover comment, so I guess you're right.

Pretty crazy to think Dan Mullen is the type of coach that simultaneously would keep Josh Robinson on the bench for his off the field behavior while refusing to bench the starting QB for being hungover during a game.
 

FlotownDawg

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This may be the strangest thread on SPS. Nobody ever seems to have heard that either Relf or Russell was hungover during a bowl game. And I was at the Wake Forest game. Ballard went off in that game for like 180 yards and two long TD runs, so no, Fletcher Cox wasn't the only thing that kept us from losing.
 

FlotownDawg

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He has to be talking about Russell. The Music City Bowl against Wake Forest was a night game, so there's no chance Relf could've been hung over because you would assume the team was together the whole day. The Gator Bowl was a noon kickoff on NYD so if Russell went out and partied hard the night before, he could theoretically be hung over. A rediculous accusation though. Pretty sorry to say that about a good guy like Tyler Russell with absolutely no proof.
 

GhostOfJackie

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I don't know what the **** he's talking about our QB being hungover, but it's fair to say that Mullen has not had his team ready to play in 3 of 6 bowl games. Didn't show up for Orange Bowl or Gator Bowl #2. We also didn't show up for that Music City Bowl and still beat a very average WF team.

His argument and original comment is stupid, but he's not 100% wrong. I do know I was still hungover by gametime of that Gator Bowl.
 

Go Budaw

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I don't know what the **** he's talking about our QB being hungover, but it's fair to say that Mullen has not had his team ready to play in 3 of 6 bowl games. Didn't show up for Orange Bowl or Gator Bowl #2. We also didn't show up for that Music City Bowl and still beat a very average WF team.

His argument and original comment is stupid, but he's not 100% wrong. I do know I was still hungover by gametime of that Gator Bowl.

Holding the Music City Bowl against Mullen because of Wake Forest being extremely average is ridiculous. Not sure if you paid attention to the 2011 season, but we were extremely average ourselves. It was easily Mullen's worst team in his 7 years and that Wake Forest team was our best win all season.
 

HD6

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That's because Josey made it up. That's how he rolls.
 

Bulldogg31

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I suppose in his defense, Rule 5 encourages this type of behavior, however, I would suggest that Rule 18 be expanded to include "Merlinz", "Mullenz", and the like.

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GhostOfJackie

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Nah I blame it all on Tyler Russell. He supplied the entire defensive line with Cuban hookers and cocaine that kept them up all night. They were swiss cheese against the option.
 
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