I'm sorry but I think Cohen is under

[57stratdawg]

pressure next year to win.

How can people on this board say that Stansbury is under pressure, but Cohen not be? I'm sure you'll disagree Todd, but we really suck this year. Its easier for Freshmen to contribute in baseball because they get all fall to work out/face pitching.

Sorry I just needed to say that..

 

[57stratdawg]

pressure next year to win.

How can people on this board say that Stansbury is under pressure, but Cohen not be? I'm sure you'll disagree Todd, but we really suck this year. Its easier for Freshmen to contribute in baseball because they get all fall to work out/face pitching.

Sorry I just needed to say that..

 

[Todd4State]

pressure next year to win.

How can people on this board say that Stansbury is under pressure, but Cohen not be? I'm sure you'll disagree Todd, but we really suck this year. Its easier for Freshmen to contribute in baseball because they get all fall to work out/face pitching.

Sorry I just needed to say that..

That's hardly what I would consider stellar. And no, I don't disagree that we suck.

But as far Cohen and pressure vs Stansbury, it's the situation. If these were all Cohen's players, I'd be first in line to say get rid of him. I think the fair thing to do is to let him get his players in and see what he can do then. Especially since he is recruiting well. And also since when we brought Polk II back- which I was vehemently agianst all I heard for six years was "wait until Polk gets his players in here!" after McMahon left. Granted, that was on Genespage and not here.

 

[Coach34]

pressure next year to win.

How can people on this board say that Stansbury is under pressure, but Cohen not be? I'm sure you'll disagree Todd, but we really suck this year. Its easier for Freshmen to contribute in baseball because they get all fall to work out/face pitching.

Sorry I just needed to say that..

failed to make an NCAA Tourney his 1st three seasons as head coach. Why should Cohen be held to a higher level? Especially when SEC baseball is alot tougher than SEC basketball?

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Because he recruited the whole Final Four team. I know that it true because I read it here.

 

[Coach34]

so I am told

 

[JxnDawg39211]

You cant expect good baseball players such as Mitch Moreland , Aaron Weatherford, Brandon Turner, etc to stick around for 4 years . You need freshmen and sophmore players to win games for you, and thelast time I checked, those are Cohen's players. Plus, The only guys that can produce any sort of offense on this team are Polk's players anyway. How can you keep putting the blame on Polk when his players are the only ones who can score runs?

I think Croom sold you guys so well on the "7 year plan" in football that you now expect every one of our teams to follow suit in the rebuilding process.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

..What do you think Cohen is, a delicate flower we must whisper our grievances behind, or else it will upset his delicate constitution?


Jekus Crist. John Cohen has better damn well start winning next year.


Cohen is coaching at a baseball school, & so far he has produced nothing.


Lastly, Stansbury doesn't fit into this argument, because Stansbury is going above & beyond his call of duty on a consistent basis.

 

[57stratdawg]

4 year thing either. If a player is any good he's not going to play college baseball for 4 years. Like I said, I think baseball is different because freshmen get all fall to mature. I dont think it's

This baseball team just doesn't seem to have ANY identity. If we can't pitch well, we're making errors. When we pitch well, we dont score runs.

 

[AshleySchaffer]

3 consecutive losing seasons in baseball at Mississippi State is unacceptable.

If we have a losing season next year and dont make the SEC tourney Cohen should be fired IMO.

You guys can blame Ron Polk all you want but he never EVER had back to back losing seasons.

 

[Coach34]

Losing seasons had he coached another year...last year's team was awful

 

[AshleySchaffer]

You are the first in line to throw Stansbury under the bus after he wins 20+ games, but I dont see how you and other people can defend Cohen for back to back losing seasons. IF and a BIG IF he has a losing season next year he will a very hot seat. I find it kinda ironic that Tommy Raffo is having success at Arkansas State while Cohen is 3-8 in the SEC. You guys can complain about how tough the SEC is, and I agree with that, but getting swept by Southeastern Louisiana at home, losing to Texas Corpus Christi thats just unacceptable. I know that Southeastern Louisiana is a sold team but we should NEVER be swept by them at home.

 

[Coach34]

Stansbury didnt make the NCAA Tourney his first THREE seasons...and he has been a solid coach at MSU.

Bulldog baseball is not as big as some of you seem to think it is. Seriously- look at the last 10 seasons. How many SEC Titles? How many West titles? How many World Series appearances?

 

[AshleySchaffer]

And he also made it to the NIT. And over the past 10 years we have actually made it to the college World Series this decade along with 7 NCAA tournament trips. Sounds like we have had a pretty successful decade in baseball, and YES we are a baseball school and have better facilities than most SEC schools.

Coach are you satisfied with the progress that Cohen and our baseball team has made through his first 2 seasons?

 

[KurtRambis4]

SEC schools have as good or better facilities than us.

 

[squirldawg]

basketball does not. Baseball is the one MSU Sport where we should demand excellence.

 

[Coach34]

basketball does not. Baseball is the one MSU Sport where we should demand excellence.

 

[57stratdawg]

chance to compete nationally (or just in the SEC) out of the major sports. I hope Cohen wins next year, but if he doesn't I think it'll be time to make a change.

 

[windcrysmary]

on his show this week he highligted 2 arky players...both sophs who struggled big time last year but now are SEC caliber and then some... one was a hitter the other was a pitcher...

I'd like to compare freshman percentage playing time now vs those "we're young" teams Polk used to always mention..


that coupled with the recruiting positives vs the Polk 2 era make Cohen not on the hot seat right now...

he has earned the right to field a team with mature players he himself recruited before pasing judgment on his ability to coach a team...

 

[whatever.sixpack]

Plus, The only guys that can produce any sort of offense on this team are Polk's players anyway. How can you keep putting the blame on Polk when his players are the only ones who can score runs?

I think Croom sold you guys so well on the "7 year plan" in football that you now expect every one of our teams to follow suit in the rebuilding process.

Totally agree, and I don't buy into this "Polk's players are tanking" bs. If it weren't for them, we might be averaging less than two runs per game in conference play, b/c Cohen sure hasn't brought in anyone that can hit yet.

Also, we're going to have to replace all these hitters next year except for Collins and Freeman. So with all first year players who are either freshmen or JUCOS, you can't expect us to be a heck of a lot better next year since we should be worse at the plate. I think it might be year 4 or 5 before we have the kind of team we expect, so it's going to be a sticky situation next year. Whoever coaches here in 2012 and 2013 should have a roster set up to win though, assuming all these hitters we're bringing in pan out

 

[SLUdog]

for me to believe we're turning things around. I think we will. By year 4 we need to be competing for the top 6 in SEC.

 

[Todd4State]

Raffo would have had back to back losing seasons with Polk hanging out in the dugout. I know it's semantics, and your point is correct.

Actually, if Raffo had been allowed to coach this team, we would have actually probably been worse because I don't think we would have recruited as well as we are now. We would have been in an even deeper hole, and there's no telling how long it would have taken us to get out of it.

Cohen may or may not have been the right choice, but I am 100% positive that Raffo wouldn't have been.

 

[maroonmania]

but the sophomore players on this team are nearly all Polk recruited and signed players. When Cohen took the job he may have added one or two players very, very late in the process but right now for all practical purposes Cohen only has one class playing so far.

 

[Coach34]

"Stansbury had winning seasons in his first 3 seasons"


SEC basketball is like playing in Conference USA in football...SEC baseball is equal to SEC football.....not to mention 2/3 of your schedule in baseball is conference games- unlike basketall where it's about 55-45...and let's remember Stansbury's notoriously weak schedules

"Sounds like we have had a pretty successful decade in baseball"

really? Here are some of our most recent finishes in conference- 12th, 12th, 4th, 9th, 7th, 9th, 4th, 7th
Polk had a losing record in conference 5 of the 7 years during his 2nd stint
We have 1 World Series appearance in the last 12 years
And no, our facilities are no longer in the top half of the conference

Am I satisfied with his progress? No
Am I shocked at where we are? No

Polk let us decline much more than many of you realize. And Mississippi passed us by while too many of you stood around and pretended they hadnt

 

[8dog]

unless these pitchers get better by leaps and bounds. Not just get better, but get a TON better. B/c not only are most of them struggling, our lineup next year is shaping up to be guys on the team that can't hit very well right now or true freshmen.

 

[War Machine Dawg]

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