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rigi19040 said:
It does put him ahead of most coaches. I listed the composite win percentage for this season. 11-109 vs the top 10 which is a .09 winning percentage for the field compared to franklins .138. There are only a handful of coaches ahead of FRanklin and they were not coming here.

Franklin was also going against OSU every year which was MOST of the losses.
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How many of those coaches had the resources available to them that BGJ did at PSU? BGJ had shown that he was never going to improve at PSU. He is what his record says he is. I will take my chances with someone that has had success elsewhere without the resources that are going to be available to them at PSU. They cannot do any worse than BGJ had done. He had a nice run but his time was up. Best of luck to him at Va Tech. The program still has higher aspirations than 3rd best in the B1G during our best years.
 
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Nits74 said:
This may be far from a short term situation.
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SkiSkiSki said:
This wasn't short term:

James Franklin holds a career record of 4 wins and 26 losses (.138 winning percentage) against Associated Press (AP) top-10 ranked teams as a head coach at both Vanderbilt and Penn State.

Breakdown of Record


TeamWinsLosses
Vanderbilt05
Penn State421
Total Career426
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Fortunately our schedules didn’t consist of only top 10 teams….even with that record against top 10 teams we still went 13-3 last year…not too shabby.
 
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SoCalLion said:
Life lesson: If one of your employees blatantly quits while on the job (like James Franklin did aftre the Oregon game), fire him quickly.
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Yeah because that’s looking so good so far.
 
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JustSomeRandomGuy said:
To me, the lesson learned from this is that cooler heads prevail.

I am a Buckeye and we almost had the same situation happen last season. It was the same story here. After the loss to TTUN, the cries for Day's head were intense. People were angry and bitter over choking away a game we simply had no business losing. The coaching decisions and gameplan ware horrendously bad. The players didn't show up mentally until the second half. Missed chip shot field goals, interceptions, and defenders tripping over themselves left and right.

Many fans were convinced that Day had lost control of the locker room and he would never take the team anywhere. Four straight inexplicable chokes to TTUN. Blown leads at the last minute in the semi-finals multiple times. A choke job against Alabama in the Natty. Almost everyone was convinced that Day was never going to take the team to the finish line. After the loss to TTUN, the 'Fire Ryan Day' chants carried on for five minutes until everyone was hoarse.

And then they handled four straight top-ten teams and totally blew out the #1 team. The outcry stopped. Day became the hometown hero and everyone started claiming it was silly for wanting him fired...lol.

IMO, firing a head coach should only be done when you have a plan in place and you know who you want to replace him.
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Always easy in hindsight…and the best laid plans…and everyone has a plan until you are punched in the face.

Day was saved by the new 12 team playoff…with a 4 -Team he is likely let go…
 
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With everything that's going on with the search, let's remember these sage words of advice:

"You can't always get what you want. But if you try some time, you just might find, you get what you need." ~ M. Jagger.
 
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MacNit said:
Always easy in hindsight…and the best laid plans…and everyone has a plan until you are punched in the face.

Day was saved by the new 12 team playoff…with a 4 -Team he is likely let go…
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I don't think he would have been let go. But he would have been coaching for his job this season.
 
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rigi19040 said:
It does put him ahead of most coaches. I listed the composite win percentage for this season. 11-109 vs the top 10 which is a .09 winning percentage for the field compared to franklins .138. There are only a handful of coaches ahead of FRanklin and they were not coming here.
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So he is tallest of the little people?
 
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SleepyLion said:
Winners never quit.
But those that never win and never quit are idiots.
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If at first you don’t succeed, try again but then quit, there’s no use marking a damn fool of yourself.
 
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Ludd said:
Fortunately our schedules didn’t consist of only top 10 teams….even with that record against top 10 teams we still went 13-3 last year…not too shabby.
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Hmmmm. Who were the three losses against. What kind of teams?
 
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SkiSkiSki said:
How many of those coaches had the resources available to them that BGJ did at PSU? BGJ had shown that he was never going to improve at PSU. He is what his record says he is. I will take my chances with someone that has had success elsewhere without the resources that are going to be available to them at PSU. They cannot do any worse than BGJ had done. He had a nice run but his time was up. Best of luck to him at Va Tech. The program still has higher aspirations than 3rd best in the B1G during our best years.
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Give us the list of better coaches who want the job. So far we have terry.
 
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BostonNit said:
With everything that's going on with the search, let's remember these sage words of advice:

"You can't always get what you want. But if you try some time, you just might find, you get what you need." ~ M. Jagger.
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When I'm riding 'round the world
And I'm doing this and I'm signing that
And I'm trying to make some girl
Who tells me, "Baby, better come back, maybe next week"
'Cause you see, I'm on a losing streak
I can't get no, oh no, no, no
Hey, hey, hey, that's what I'll say
 
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Ludd said:
Still won 13 out of 16 and got us to the semi finals. I’ll take that every year.
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Well, maybe you can get that at VaTech. Since he did this exactly once, I would not be plunking down too much treasure.
 
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MacNit said:
Well, maybe you can get that at VaTech. Since he did this exactly once, I would not be plunking down too much treasure.
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I wouldn’t be plunking down too much treasure on it happening again at PSU for a long time.
 
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12/5/2025. Don’t forget anything . Sit in your office and wait for the golden goose to land on your lap. Worked for Larry David , and maybe Pat Kraft .
 
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