One of those two wins was last year against #25 MSU. I think the rebs should harp on something other than Mullen's record versus ranked opponents.
In past 4 yrs, ole miss is 2-14 vs ranked teams
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This is very interesting.
First, you're wrong.
In 2009 OM defeated #10 LSU and #19 Oklahoma State. Alongside MSU at #25, that brings the win total to 3, not 2.
It's also interesting because since 2009 OM has been ranked in the top 10, had the worst season in OM history, and began rebuilding the program. Over those same years, MSU has had the most consistent winning seasons in quite sometime and a record breaking quarterback. Yet, OM has managed to defeat more ranked teams than MSU during that same time period.
Also, I've seen a lot more state fans talking about Dan's record than OM fans over the past few days.
ETA: Another thing I just discovered looking at the actual facts. It's commonly purported that the "hasn't beat a ranked team" statistic is skewed because MSU hasn't played top 25 talent, but top 10 talent. In fact, over the past 4 years, OM has faced 16 top 25 teams and, of those, 11 top 10 teams. MSU has faced 15 top 25 teams and, of those, 8 top 10 teams.
First, you're wrong.
In 2009 OM defeated #10 LSU and #19 Oklahoma State. Alongside MSU at #25, that brings the win total to 3, not 2.
It's also interesting because since 2009 OM has been ranked in the top 10, had the worst season in OM history, and began rebuilding the program. Over those same years, MSU has had the most consistent winning seasons in quite sometime and a record breaking quarterback. Yet, OM has managed to defeat more ranked teams than MSU during that same time period.
Also, I've seen a lot more state fans talking about Dan's record than OM fans over the past few days.
ETA: Another thing I just discovered looking at the actual facts. It's commonly purported that the "hasn't beat a ranked team" statistic is skewed because MSU hasn't played top 25 talent, but top 10 talent. In fact, over the past 4 years, OM has faced 16 top 25 teams and, of those, 11 top 10 teams. MSU has faced 15 top 25 teams and, of those, 8 top 10 teams.
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your and idiot.....
Mullen is in year 5, and has never beaten a Top 20 team.
He hasn't beaten a Top 25 team since 2010, let that sink in, It's 2013...
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Mullen is in year 5, and has never beaten a Top 20 team.
He hasn't beaten a Top 25 team since 2010, let that sink in, It's 2013...
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You are 0 of your last 16 vs teams that finished the season in the Top 25.
We were not a top 25 team last year. We were not even ranked in some polls when we played yall.
Y'all have 2 wins. We have one win. Congratu 17n lations.
We should have beaten LSU in 2009 but we didn't. We play Arkansas to OT in 2010 but we didn't win. Those are two games in which Mullen has some exposure for the play calling/clock management at the end. But anybody who uses that stat to suggest that Mullen hasn't elevated the MSU program and/or isn't a good coach, is a 17n idiot.
We were not a top 25 team last year. We were not even ranked in some polls when we played yall.
Y'all have 2 wins. We have one win. Congratu 17n lations.
We should have beaten LSU in 2009 but we didn't. We play Arkansas to OT in 2010 but we didn't win. Those are two games in which Mullen has some exposure for the play calling/clock management at the end. But anybody who uses that stat to suggest that Mullen hasn't elevated the MSU program and/or isn't a good coach, is a 17n idiot.
By my count it is 0-13. Also, MSU is 0-12 under that same stat. The only reason for the difference is that OM played an additional top 25 team than MSU did. Interestingly, the last time either program beat a team that was in the top 25 at the end of the year was during the 2009 season/post season. I'm just trying to figure out how any of this helps the argument in favor of Dan Mullen.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Mullen has only beaten 3 teams that finished with a winning record in his 4 + years at MSU;
Ole Miss
Florida
La Tech
His best win in his tenure at MSU was against Ole Miss in 2009 the year after Ole Miss shellacked MSU 45 -0. Word was that NUTT
didn't even practice for MSU that week but chose to practice for their upcoming bowl game.
Ole Miss
Florida
La Tech
His best win in his tenure at MSU was against Ole Miss in 2009 the year after Ole Miss shellacked MSU 45 -0. Word was that NUTT
didn't even practice for MSU that week but chose to practice for their upcoming bowl game.
Well 3 is not so far from 7
Kentucky, Michigan and Middle Tenn twice.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that Mullen has never lost to a team with less than 8 wins, except for last year's Egg Bowl.
Kentucky, Michigan and Middle Tenn twice.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that Mullen has never lost to a team with less than 8 wins, except for last year's Egg Bowl.
FormerlyHighLifeRebel, I considered only regular season games. You are attempting (but failing) to alter the study. The period of time for each senior class. To an MSU grad, that would be four years. So, YOU are wrong.
Maroonthirteen, according to Phil Steele magazine we MSU was ranked #25 when we played the rebels.
That's not true. It was Nutts last yr when the team didn't practice much for the Eggbowl, and it sure as hell was't because of a bowl game
So, let me get this straight. You only counted the games that you thought were relevant, but I am the one altering the study? How exactly does the senior class affect whether the bowl games are counted?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that Mullen has never lost to a team with less than 8 wins, except for last year's Egg Bowl.
I GUESS THEY PLAY SOME VERY EASY SCHEDULES THEN BECAUSE THEIR SCHEDULE UNDER MULLEN HAS EEN MADE UP OF MOSTLY TEAMS THAT FINISH WITH A LOSING RECORD.
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I GUESS THEY PLAY SOME VERY EASY SCHEDULES THEN BECAUSE THEIR SCHEDULE UNDER MULLEN HAS EEN MADE UP OF MOSTLY TEAMS THAT FINISH WITH A LOSING RECORD.
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2009 Mississippi (#20) 41-27
2010 Florida (#22) 10-7
fishwater, careful using the word idiot, idiot.
2010 Florida (#22) 10-7
fishwater, careful using the word idiot, idiot.
Ok if we are going four years back, might as well go five. Its funny that you cutoff right after the year we went 3-3 against ranked teams, including wins over number 4 Florida (number 1 at the time), number 18 LSU, and number 7 Texas Tech. What did MSU do that year?
Hey Paco...
He hasn't beaten a Top 20 team..
http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/344/year/2009/mississippi-state-bulldogs
He hasn't beaten a Top 20 team..
http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/344/year/2009/mississippi-state-bulldogs
Reflow your am idiot. First of all any time frame can be chose as deemed necessary. Second of all it is a comparison of the time frame since Mullen has been here. Nobody gives a **** about Freeze. Go kill yourself
Why are we limiting it to the top 20 when there are 25 ranked teams? If he beats #18, will we start limiting the stat to the top 17?
I have feeling before it's all said and done, most yall will care about Freeze. Seems a lot are already...
I am going by their ranking at the time that we played them.
That's when we beat them, and they were ranked #25 when we played them..
That's when we beat them, and they were ranked #25 when we played them..
Not really.
I know it is hard to believe that not all of us give a **** about Ole Miss football. Hell, I bet I couldn't name 15 players on your team
I know it is hard to believe that not all of us give a **** about Ole Miss football. Hell, I bet I couldn't name 15 players on your team