Injuries Matter
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That's a fact! Need these guys to stay healthy. That was fun seeing them all on the court together and get the big win.
1000% they matter. Teams will try and injure Lowe's shoulder going forward. We might as well be prepared for some dirty play.
Whats up with Lowes shoulder? Honest question. It feels like a situation similar to Jrob where its just not gonna get better until the off season.. and it feels like hes one hard screen away from a season-ender. Hope its not thatbad, but with the amount of time he keeps going out, we need to spell him some and get JJ going. Like for Bellarmine, I wouldn't play Lowe more than 20 minutes. Honestly might even consider giving him the night off.
Thats fine- but that doesn't excuse not scoring for 13 minutes against UNC. Or getting HAMMERED by MSU who beat mighty Oakland today by 9.
Wasn't just the losing- it was how we were losing.
I was always most bothered by our effort, and somewhat bothered by Pope not bringing in a capable backup PG.
I put most of the blame for the early season on Pope, but also give him credit for finally getting through to the team and getting them to fight.
And yes, injuries matter. They can just never be an excuse to lay down.
I put most of the blame for the early season on Pope, but also give him credit for finally getting through to the team and getting them to fight.
And yes, injuries matter. They can just never be an excuse to lay down.
Sure it does to an extent. Go look at SJU in first half with no Lowe (lose by 7). Then look at SJU in second half with Lowe (win by 19). Injuries matter —- we need to remember that because Lowe may get hurt again soon and this season is effectively over. We don’t need to run off good coaches because we don’t think in balanced terms. We acknowledge the good and the bad.
Yes, get more creative when injuries happen. The offense is atrocious without the full squad. Don't lose by 30.
To an extent. 13 minutes and no one can score has no excuse in my book....sorry. How many FTs did we miss that game?
And if you know Lowe is that fragile JJ has to be a project you are working on. You can't lay down if you're QB goes down.
And we did that too much
I understand losing when you are down two key dudes. It doesn't excuse losing by 30. Especially when it was obvious things were very wrong effort wise.
I think people forget Lowe was playing when UofL was whipping us.
But he is the same coach he recruited a team with a massive budget with no capable backup. That’s an issue too. A year after the same thing happened.
Yes but it doesn't tell the whole story.
Pope still has glaring issues.
He still did way too many mass subs in the 1st half. He allowed Aberdeen to ruin offensive flow. No one ran any offensive sets in the first half.
Our defense was very good today.
So while they do matter, Lowe and JQ are the key to this season.
Consistency is the one thing that we have to see from this team and specifically Pope.
I want Pope to succeed. He may not be the right man for the job right now. Could he be? Yeah he could. But he has to win. And winning against Indiana and St. Johns today is a good start.
I am a person who looks at the scope of the entirety of it all. I don't tunnel vision on all bad or all good. It's a mix a both. Lately it was all bad. Let's hope that the rest of the season can be all good!
Lowe and JQ has to stay healthy and must start.
From today's game, the best line up is:
Lowe
Oweh
Williams
Dioubate
Quantiance
Aberdeen needs to sit and be 6th man again. But he was half the reason why our offense was stagnant in the 1st half for not being a willing passer.
I would love to see Jasper's offense get a shot and come in for Oweh or Williams. He clearly has the skills. I wish Pope would give him a chance.
Pope still has glaring issues.
He still did way too many mass subs in the 1st half. He allowed Aberdeen to ruin offensive flow. No one ran any offensive sets in the first half.
Our defense was very good today.
So while they do matter, Lowe and JQ are the key to this season.
Consistency is the one thing that we have to see from this team and specifically Pope.
I want Pope to succeed. He may not be the right man for the job right now. Could he be? Yeah he could. But he has to win. And winning against Indiana and St. Johns today is a good start.
I am a person who looks at the scope of the entirety of it all. I don't tunnel vision on all bad or all good. It's a mix a both. Lately it was all bad. Let's hope that the rest of the season can be all good!
Lowe and JQ has to stay healthy and must start.
From today's game, the best line up is:
Lowe
Oweh
Williams
Dioubate
Quantiance
Aberdeen needs to sit and be 6th man again. But he was half the reason why our offense was stagnant in the 1st half for not being a willing passer.
I would love to see Jasper's offense get a shot and come in for Oweh or Williams. He clearly has the skills. I wish Pope would give him a chance.
If Lowe gets hurt again — season is over. Won’t argue with anyone who disagrees but if you think “coaching” will fix this offense without Lowe in it —- I really don’t have words for you.
Quaintance seemed to pick up and push other players by his presence on the floor. It was like adding a young Bam to the mix. He changed this team today. Lowe looked good as well. Hopefully it continues.
Its amazing how many dont understand the injury issue.
Take three of the best 4 players off ANY TEAM IN HISTORY... and they ain't winning shite.
Take three of the best 4 players off ANY TEAM IN HISTORY... and they ain't winning shite.
That's still on the coach. He's responsible for roster construction. And if you lose your QB that you built the offense around, you have to rebuild the offense.
Injuries happen to everyone, not just us. UNC lost one of their key players and adjusted.
That's part of being coach.
Two things are true: injuries DO matter and there's no way we should've gotten drummed to Zaga and MSU.
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Technically we had another PG but he decommitted. For all we know Pope tried to find another one but couldn’t.
Exactly. Look how far out St Johns had to go to defend Lowe. The spacing UK had in that 2nd half abused one of the better defensive teams in America. 53 points. This team struggles to get 53 points in some games.
You’re arguing a point I’m not making one way or the other. I didn’t talk about whether Pope is responsible or not. I’m saying he won’t be able to coach this team to a level that BBN will be satisfied with without Lowe this season. I’m convinced of it.
We're actually ranked higher in D that they are. They are a T25 defensive team though.
But that's the point. You can't just get one PG and go we're good. Especially after what happened last year. You can't paint yourself in the corner and then blame the brush.
If he doesn't go get two PGs next year I'm gonna pull my hair out.
NO ONE is disagreeing we should have another PG. Maybe Pope thought JJ or Aberdeen could man that role. Maybe he tried to get another one and couldn’t. Regardless we all agree we should have another PG. The horse is dead. Stop beating.
Hi sir, you play an entire season for a reason, otherwise you'd jist play a tournament and call it a day.
What else can I help you with?
Are you a hang a banner in November type of guy?
Yes we do. And we've got a lot left to play. Not everything is fixed. And the goal is a title.
Until we have #9 we have work to do.
Naysayers have had their time. Now isn't that time.
Acaden Lewis de committed...and says hello.
When did TRUTH become naysaying? There was no excuse for those games.
I'm glad we're healthy. I'm doubly glad the attitudes and effort have gotten better.
Now we need to go 5-1 in our next 6 and I'll be happy with where we are.
Nah, you'll find fault, even in blowout wins. Nevertheless, we've all heard from your side already. It's somebody else's turn to talk now. You've exposed yourself enough.
Understand, this isn't one of us Pope Crusaders lol. Just one of the greatest coaches ever.
Yeah, the guy who's been here through good and bad and expects us to be the blue blood we are is the wrong person here. YOU sure as crap don't get to decide who talks on a message board.
Get muted.
The truth is, and I don’t even bother arguing it —- because people won’t hear it:
There is not a single team that will win a national championship without their most important player. Lowe may not be our best player, but he is our most important player. People can crow all they want about roster construction but there is not a single team that will excel without their most important piece. Period.
Thats totally ridiculous.
It DOES excuse it.
Apples to Apples...we play Louisvillle in Rupp instead of their building, Lowe, JQ and MD all start, and the Cards play without Mikel Brown Jr. and Sananda Fru...does it excuse Louisville getting ran out of the building? Because that is exactly what would have happened. Brown and Fru are no more important to Louisville than our missing starters are to our squad. Just an unfair, absurd take
Son, I was a fan way before your Al Gore guy created the internet.
I don't think anyone is saying that. At all. But there was way more wrong than not having Lowe there for awhile.
Let's look at the UofL FB game. They beat our butts WITH A WALKON.
It's about effort and heart. And there's no arguing that's improved in spades.
Look at what happened when Pope benched BG. He straightened up and is playing MUCH better with effort.
I agree. I’m not saying we wouldn’t improve over time with coaching decisions (many of which I’ve been critical about) —- but coaching won’t overcome certain injuries. It just won’t — and no, I don’t believe a healthy UK team would lose the way we did in those games. Nor do I think we will ever get to truly be healthy —- sad truth is I don’t see Lowe making it to the finish line given how precarious his situation is. I’m gonna always discuss everything with context —- that’s what I’m about.
We lost two pg's last year need to sign three next year. All willing to be back ups.