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The team did not improve this year. Several players disappeared. Stamps, Bone, Toth, West, Baker, Flanagan, Hatcher to some extent, and the punter. Some players developed by virtue of playing minutes for the first time. Not much to gauge their development by. A lot of "growing" still to do across the board.
 
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This is great news. I've been watching UK football for over 40 years, and I don't think I have witnessed so much poorly coached football on a consistent basis. Glad that these coaches were able to maintain relationships with these incoming players. Hopefully, CMS and his staff will learn from mistakes this offseason.
 

merrimanm

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The team did not improve this year. Several players disappeared. Stamps, Bone, Toth, West, Baker, Flanagan, Hatcher to some extent, and the punter. Some players developed by virtue of playing minutes for the first time. Not much to gauge their development by. A lot of "growing" still to do across the board.
Definitely still got to continue to grow in many areas. But Toth did develop. He will have a shot at the NFL per JROW and the recruiting services. He graded out as the 2nd best center in the country behind A&Ms. Stamps played much better after losing his starting job, West and Flannigan was injured much of the year and missed tons of time. Hatcher was injured and suspended much of the year as well. But when he finally went a long stretch of practicing, he played very well.
Bone didn't get used enough to see if he developed. Baker took a step back and so did the punter. But I don't think Foster's issues were due to coaching. It was mental with him.
 
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What have you proven false? Nothing.
What have you used to support your opinion? You claim to watch the games a lot. That is weak as I am sure we all do.
What have I don't to back up my opinions? I have given clear explanations of my thoughts. And how do you rebut my thoughts? Through name calling. Seems to me like you don't have a real thought other than just hating on UK football and any coach who is here.
I have proven all of your 'opinions' false. Stoops has not improved our team every year since being here. My FACT that proves that is we finished the last 8 games going 1-7 with a win over Charlotte. There proves we regressed and did not improve. We finished the season with the same record, but against a much easier schedule and we had 8 home games. Another fact that proves we didn't improve this season. Those are called facts, merriman. Those aren't my opinions, those are the facts of the situation. You compared this years USC team to last years Florida team by saying you can't call this years win over this USC team a quality win if I don't call last years game against Florida a Quality win had we won considering both teams are equal, those were your words merriman, and those words do not reference anything as far as historically speaking, you try to say you meant the history of the programs, but based on what you said that simply isn't the case you're just saying that to try and save yourself because you don't want to look dumb. But you can't take back stuff you said man seriously. And the way I proved that wrong was by saying last years 8-5 Florida team is way better than this years 3-9? USC team. Those teams are not equal so you can't say one win is equal to the other. That's a fact that proves you wrong, not an opinion. Your useless to conversation with because you always try to take back things you said and how you meant it to save face and it's just absolutely pointless arguing with such cluelessness and someone who always says they mean one thing then you prove them wrong then they say they meant something else. It's iust dumb man there's seriously no point in arguing with you because you no matter what say something that makes no sense then say it's correct because according to what you're saying are 'clear explanations' even though it's been proven wrong using facts.
 
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Definitely still got to continue to grow in many areas. But Toth did develop. He will have a shot at the NFL per JROW and the recruiting services. He graded out as the 2nd best center in the country behind A&Ms. Stamps played much better after losing his starting job, West and Flannigan was injured much of the year and missed tons of time. Hatcher was injured and suspended much of the year as well. But when he finally went a long stretch of practicing, he played very well.
Bone didn't get used enough to see if he developed. Baker took a step back and so did the punter. But I don't think Foster's issues were due to coaching. It was mental with him.
Read the post above yours, that's the truth of the matter. Stoops hasn't developed anyone man. Smith was the same player when he got here by the time he left, you're so silly man. I haven't seen any player development and any improvement from our team for you to make a case that he does a good job developing players. You sure like to make stuff up. Forest and that was all because he put more into the game. That's the only player I saw improvement from. Outside of him there's another 80 players on the team that didn't improve.
 

merrimanm

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I have proven all of your 'opinions' false. Stoops has not improved our team every year since being here. My FACT that proves that is we finished the last 8 games going 1-7 with a win over Charlotte. There proves we regressed and did not improve. We finished the season with the same record, but against a much easier schedule and we had 8 home games. Another fact that proves we didn't improve this season. Those are called facts, merriman. Those aren't my opinions, those are the facts of the situation. You compared this years USC team to last years Florida team by saying you can't call this years win over this USC team a quality win if I don't call last years game against Florida a Quality win had we won considering both teams are equal, those were your words merriman, and those words do not reference anything as far as historically speaking, you try to say you meant the history of the programs, but based on what you said that simply isn't the case you're just saying that to try and save yourself because you don't want to look dumb. But you can't take back stuff you said man seriously. And the way I proved that wrong was by saying last years 8-5 Florida team is way better than this years 3-9? USC team. Those teams are not equal so you can't say one win is equal to the other. That's a fact that proves you wrong, not an opinion. Your useless to conversation with because you always try to take back things you said and how you meant it to save face and it's just absolutely pointless arguing with such cluelessness and someone who always says they mean one thing then you prove them wrong then they say they meant something else. It's iust dumb man there's seriously no point in arguing with you because you no matter what say something that makes no sense then say it's correct because according to what you're saying are 'clear explanations' even though it's been proven wrong using facts.
Well well. The ole USC UF thing that you bring up in EVERY post. Get over it man. I have explained that many times. You just hang on to that because you have nothing else. And really, don't have that one. Yet you keep trying.

1-7 has as much to do with depth and playing teams that are just better than us than it does of not improving. Those are facts. Facts that debunk your facts. The problem is, all those that want us to be great in a short amount of time refuse to look at things that directly effect the win and loss column. It just doesn't work that way. This isn't basketball and overcoming the history we have is not an overnight thing. This will take years to turn around. The problem is, we have to many basketball people here who think that football works the same way. It simply doesn't. It takes years to build depth.

But I also listed facts. The FACT, that we had the same record as last year while losing 4 guys that have a chance in the NFL, 2 of which are playing, our OC, a ton of older guys with leadership qualities, losing our best dlinemen for the year, losing other guys along the dLine and LB for significant time throughout the year (Meant, Flannigan, Hatcher, Walker, West, and CJ Johnson all missed time) Offensively, Boom missed time, JoJo, GAA, Meadows, Garret Johnson all missed time. That tells me that we have developed some depth if we have lost all that and still maintained the same record as last year. Had we lost all that in years past, we wouldn't have won a game.

Those are my facts as well. That can't be argued as our past history has proven that.
 

merrimanm

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Read the post above yours, that's the truth of the matter. Stoops hasn't developed anyone man. Smith was the same player when he got here by the time he left, you're so silly man. I haven't seen any player development and any improvement from our team for you to make a case that he does a good job developing players. You sure like to make stuff up. Forest and that was all because he put more into the game. That's the only player I saw improvement from. Outside of him there's another 80 players on the team that didn't improve.
And I disagree and explained why I disagreed. Notice I didn't call him names in my response. I simply explained why I disagreed. You should try that.
 
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Well well. The ole USC UF thing that you bring up in EVERY post. Get over it man. I have explained that many times. You just hang on to that because you have nothing else. And really, don't have that one. Yet you keep trying.

1-7 has as much to do with depth and playing teams that are just better than us than it does of not improving. Those are facts. Facts that debunk your facts. The problem is, all those that want us to be great in a short amount of time refuse to look at things that directly effect the win and loss column. It just doesn't work that way. This isn't basketball and overcoming the history we have is not an overnight thing. This will take years to turn around. The problem is, we have to many basketball people here who think that football works the same way. It simply doesn't. It takes years to build depth.

But I also listed facts. The FACT, that we had the same record as last year while losing 4 guys that have a chance in the NFL, 2 of which are playing, our OC, a ton of older guys with leadership qualities, losing our best dlinemen for the year, losing other guys along the dLine and LB for significant time throughout the year (Meant, Flannigan, Hatcher, Walker, West, and CJ Johnson all missed time) Offensively, Boom missed time, JoJo, GAA, Meadows, Garret Johnson all missed time. That tells me that we have developed some depth if we have lost all that and still maintained the same record as last year. Had we lost all that in years past, we wouldn't have won a game.

Those are my facts as well. That can't be argued as our past history has proven that.
I stopped reading after the 4 players to the NFL. Check smiths and buds stats their senior year, everyone loses players to graduation, this doesn't only happen at UK you act like we're the only team that lost players. In fact we returned a lot more players than most programs do and almost the entire offense! You seem to ignore that and you still use it as an excuse as to why we improved this season because what we lost? Even when your man stoops himself said this team was way better than the previous years team with smith and Bud? You're saying you disagree with your boy stoops and that we didn't have as much talent this year? And you're trying to say this years team had less talent? When in fact it had waayyyyy more talent and we were way better at every position except d line and o line and you keep using the loss of those 2 players that didn't put up barely any numbers as the reason we weren't good this year? As I said this is pointless you make zero sense man.
 
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These are your exact words, word for word. And if you did mean historically speaking, which obviously you didn't. Then you're comparing mizzou to Florida historically. Wow, just wow. This is why conversations with you are pointless.

We have awful losing streaks to many SEC team. UGA, MSU, and UT being 3 of them. But UF was about as good as USC and Mizzou this year. So beating a UF team that is equivalent to this years USC and Mizz team would have been a quality win, but not those that they are equivalent to? Doesn't make sense. And don't give me the losing streak, because in that same post you called me dumb for using our history as a reason for losing to them. So again, which isit?
 

merrimanm

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I stopped reading after the 4 players to the NFL. Check smiths and buds stats their senior year, everyone loses players to graduation, this doesn't only happen at UK you act like we're the only team that lost players. In fact we returned a lot more players than most programs do and almost the entire offense! You seem to ignore that and you still use it as an excuse as to why we improved this season because what we lost? Even when your man stoops himself said this team was way better than the previous years team with smith and Bud? You're saying you disagree with your boy stoops and that we didn't have as much talent this year? And you're trying to say this years team had less talent? When in fact it had waayyyyy more talent and we were way better at every position except d line and o line and you keep using the loss of those 2 players that didn't put up barely any numbers as the reason we weren't good this year? As I said this is pointless you make zero sense man.
You are right. Teams do lose talent every year. But the difference in the teams that we play that lose talent is that they have equal talent replacing them that have been in their systems for 3 or 4 years. Big difference in replacing that talent with talented, yet very young players who haven't had time to develop as much like we do. As far as the number on Smith and Bud, you prove your knowledge of the game right there. Numbers don't tell the entire story. Bud wasn't a first rounder during to numbers. He was 1st rounder because he is good and did his job. Doing his job doesn't always mean he gets a stat.
Also, we lost a lot of production for the offense. A big time OLineman in Miller, we lost Hurd, Robinson, and Blue who all provided something that he can't put a Stat on and that is leadership. Who replaced them? True sophomores. Talented, but you'd and immature and are not yet leaders. That is a non stat that is as important as any stat you can throw out. Not to mention, having to learn a new system.
 

merrimanm

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These are your exact words, word for word. And if you did mean historically speaking, which obviously you didn't. Then you're comparing mizzou to Florida historically. Wow, just wow. This is why conversations with you are pointless.

We have awful losing streaks to many SEC team. UGA, MSU, and UT being 3 of them. But UF was about as good as USC and Mizzou this year. So beating a UF team that is equivalent to this years USC and Mizz team would have been a quality win, but not those that they are equivalent to? Doesn't make sense. And don't give me the losing streak, because in that same post you called me dumb for using our history as a reason for losing to them. So again, which isit?
Again, a tired argument from you in which you continue to leave out the part where I said historically. Give it up. It isn't working.
 

law1127

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Tell Andrebullsh-tetc to tell us who his coach,lead recruiter, and asst. coaches should be, since he obviously can identify all the problems! Smart people have solutions!
 
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Again, a tired argument from you in which you continue to leave out the part where I said historically. Give it up. It isn't working.
You need help.. Like seriously i feel like this lie you continue to say you've convinced yourself is true because you can never admit you're wrong. And for the record I hope we have a great season and I will gladly eat crownif we do. With that said from what I've seen so far the staff is totally inept and that's the god honest truth. Stoops is not a good coach. We have zero experience at OC, DC, and HC. That will never get it done in the SEC ever and the staff regressed between years 2 and 3 with MORE TALENT than the previous season, a lot more. which is a fact considering the schedules and how much less we competed against a lot of teams. And we will continue to underachieve with our talent as long as this staff is here. I wish they could get it done, merriman. And I know you love this staff and think they're so good at what they do just because they don the blue and white. And much like joker, just because they're kentuckys coaches, does not mean they're good at what they do. I know you thought joker was going to get it done until the very end and I wouldn't expect anything different from you with this staff or any staff ever. You bring up the fact we don't have depth behind smith and Bud. Why didn't he? This was his 3rd class someone should've been trained in the waiting

I admire the passion and blind optimism that you've shown for years, one day, you will learn how pointless it becomes to always have high hopes and invest your emotion into it. Fans have been doing it for 60 years, you'll learn. Nothing about the way this staff coaches during games is any different or better from the worst coaches who've ever been here.
 

merrimanm

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You need help.. Like seriously i feel like this lie you continue to say you've convinced yourself is true because you can never admit you're wrong. And for the record I hope we have a great season and I will gladly eat crownif we do. With that said from what I've seen so far the staff is totally inept and that's the god honest truth. Stoops is not a good coach. We have zero experience at OC, DC, and HC. That will never get it done in the SEC ever and the staff regressed between years 2 and 3 with MORE TALENT than the previous season, a lot more. which is a fact considering the schedules and how much less we competed against a lot of teams. And we will continue to underachieve with our talent as long as this staff is here. I wish they could get it done, merriman. And I know you love this staff and think they're so good at what they do just because they don the blue and white. And much like joker, just because they're kentuckys coaches, does not mean they're good at what they do. I know you thought joker was going to get it done until the very end and I wouldn't expect anything different from you with this staff or any staff ever. You bring up the fact we don't have depth behind smith and Bud. Why didn't he? This was his 3rd class someone should've been trained in the waiting

I admire the passion and blind optimism that you've shown for years, one day, you will learn how pointless it becomes to always have high hopes and invest your emotion into it. Fans have been doing it for 60 years, you'll learn. Nothing about the way this staff coaches during games is any different or better from the worst coaches who've ever been here.
First, I never said Joker was a good coach. I supported him as our coach. But never said he was a great, or even a good coach. I have also never said Stoops was a great coach. I said he is a great recruiter, and that has been evident. I have said plenty of times that Stoops has to get better at some things.

As far as having someone to back up Bud and Z, that is obvious. There was only Hatcher left. He was the only one Stoops had time to recruit when he was first hired. That is why most people with common sense recognizes the 2016 class as his 3rd recruiting class. The first one was half of Joker's recruits. So Hatcher was the only one and he has been in more trouble than he has on the field working hard. You can't control what a kid does away from the team. He has been disciplined many times and just now seems to be getting his head straight as he is watching his dream slip away. That is why he will be better next year.

And as far as my passion for the CATS, isn't that what a fan is supposed to be? Passionate no matter what? That is what I am. Not just when things seem good. So, I pray I never have that attitude. I will always be passionate about my team.
 

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5 wins is better than what he inherited? That's not saying much, but this season compared to 2014 was a f@cking cluster f@ck and was regression. To use your analysis in season 3 we shouldn't be getting the crap beat out of us at home. I was at the Tennessee game, they could have easily scored 70 points. The UofL game are you kidding me, nothing about this season was an improvement over the previous season.

When Melvin Lewis went out, the whole defense seemed to collapse. He, Johnson and others are gone, we couldn't stop anyone last year, we sure in the hell won't next year. But I can guarantee there will be people get on this board now that we are weeks after the season is over and tell us how great we will be next year. We won't be worth a crap and all I'm hoping for is overall improvement and not getting beat by 40 points.
 

3kidsandme

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5 wins is better than what he inherited? That's not saying much, but this season compared to 2014 was a f@cking cluster f@ck and was regression. To use your analysis in season 3 we shouldn't be getting the crap beat out of us at home. I was at the Tennessee game, they could have easily scored 70 points. The UofL game are you kidding me, nothing about this season was an improvement over the previous season.

When Melvin Lewis went out, the whole defense seemed to collapse. He, Johnson and others are gone, we couldn't stop anyone last year, we sure in the hell won't next year. But I can guarantee there will be people get on this board now that we are weeks after the season is over and tell us how great we will be next year. We won't be worth a crap and all I'm hoping for is overall improvement and not getting beat by 40 points.
So you point to the blow outs as non improvement what about the close games? Those don't show improvement? We are not there yet as a roster to compete with every team on our schedule. 2 1\2 years is not enough time to take the worst roster in the power 5 and win 8 or 9 games.
 
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vhcat70

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Thanks, good list, but you are going to have to list everyone on the roster to please some of our fans.
LOL. You think 12 on a list over three years is close to enough? Try 40-50, even 30, & we'll starting to get somewhere. And over 3 years, 45-50 is well short of a roster.
 

messecat

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When are people gonna realize that your not gonna win 8 9 games with all your talent being freshman and sophomores.. anybody who does not think 5 wins is better than what Stoops inherited is an idiot. This team was starting 4 freshman dbs by the end of the year 7 or 8 wins would have been a miracle.
You are right but expecting the posters on here to realize anything remotely intelligent is asking a lot. Stoops and his staff were supposed to completely gut and replace all the talent in all four classes in 2 and a half recruiting classes. Save your breath.
 
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You referring to the DE's & LB's who defended the read option so well against LV?

I didnt say theyd all improved, but many have. Inability to defend an offensive scheme is a problem with defensive coaching/preparation. The D was destroying Louisville before they changed up their QB and scheme.
 

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What I like about the class sticking together other than talent (obviously). It helps build that sense of teamwork and chemistry that was seriously lacking this past year.
 
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jauk11

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They have done a decent job at developing most positions. It is the high profile positions of QB and WR where they have struggled and I think that leads many fans to conclude that they can't develop anybody. We were supposed to be in great shape at QB with Towles and Barker. Neither one lived up to their potential. Baker and Timmons have been busts at WR with Badet and Bone also being less than impressive. Snodgrass fizzled out and Conrad at TE disappeared. The Oline didn't develop very well either but they may have been a lost cause from the get go.

Not a bad post, but the All SEC freshman team TE disappeared?

I wonder how the the selection committee found him.
 

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Not a bad post, but the All SEC freshman team TE disappeared?

I wonder how the the selection committee found him.

I am glad they did but that is a damn good question. C.J. played pretty good in the middle of the season but only had 3 receptions for 16 yards over the last 5 games. I stand by my statement. We also went 4-1 over that same stretch. Maybe he should have been targeted a few more times.
 

jauk11

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theyre not really opinions when they're proven to be false, but ok man.

Most things on this board are just opinions, but no, facts are the things that are not really facts when they are proven to be false, not at all sure you can say the same about opinions, opinions are just opinions. Maybe we should all end all of our posts with JMO like WildCard does.

However, when you post things and almost everyone is arguing with your OPINIONS then maybe you should rethink some of them. No one on here isn't arguing that the coaches made a lot of mistakes this year, but come on man.

I know, I know, you are a UK fan and the smartest man in the world, forget I said anything.
 
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merrimanm

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I am glad they did but that is a damn good question. C.J. played pretty good in the middle of the season but only had 3 receptions for 16 yards over the last 5 games. I stand by my statement. We also went 4-1 over that same stretch. Maybe he should have been targeted a few more times.
Garret Johnson was also playing with a really bad shoulder that hurt his production.
 

jauk11

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I am glad they did but that is a damn good question. C.J. played pretty good in the middle of the season but only had 3 receptions for 16 yards over the last 5 games. I stand by my statement. We also went 4-1 over that same stretch. Maybe he should have been targeted a few more times.

I can't argue that he should have had more passes his way, but I think he made the All freshman team mainly because of his blocking.

By the way, watched part of the Packers game today where they mostly ran the ball and the announcers called out Cobb for great blocking on a couple of their long runs.
 

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Omg we won against eku in 60 minute football game that went to overtime! How awesome!! Our offensive line didn't get better, Patrick towles got worse, the 2 most important positions in football where the game starts and ends, has seen zero improvement since day one. Our fundamentals are as bad as it gets, outside of a few exceptions we are horrible at tackling. Offensive line has zero discipline. I haven't seen any players develop to be honest. Westry was good since day one, he didn't develop he just has the ability. It wasn't like he went from being decent to good after some good coaching, he has always been good. Kinda like Randall Cobb, under the radar but no one developed him into what he was. He was just a special player.

The one player that I can say has improved is josh forest. I think that's where the list truely starts and ends maybe Edwards? He was always good I feel like though. Zadarius smith was the same player he was from day one til his very last game. All I see on that list are talented players that have been the exact same player since the day they arrived on campus, with forest being the exception. And I feel like that was more because of his will to than coaching development. horton still runs standing straight up. Alabama wanted Elam so bad, look what he is today. What happened to stamps and towles you all? Dorian baker, bone, Timmonsz if you all want to start. This will be a way longer list than the list of players who've performed above expectations. Merriman will never have a negative thing to say about this staff he's as unrealistic as a poster can get. He sees nothing but greatness out of stoops. The guy is clueless. If merriman agrees with what any poster is saying then it really means nothing as far as credibility to that post goes.

If a lot of these players your naming had gone to other SEC schools, they would have been red shirted. Stoops didn't have that option. Do you really think Elam would have seen the field before his Junior year? Not as a starter, and not much time as a sub. Let's give Stoops another year before we start criticizing his player development. Check his past record at several schools. I think it's fair to complain about his game management, and hopefully that will improve, but your way off base on his player development in such a short time.

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Most things on this board are just opinions, but no, facts are the things that are not really facts when they are proven to be false, not at all sure you can say the same about opinions, opinions are just opinions. Maybe we should all end all of our posts with JMO like WildCard does.

However, when you post things and almost everyone is arguing with your OPINIONS then maybe you should rethink some of them. No one on here isn't arguing that the coaches made a lot of mistakes this year, but come on man.

I know, I know, you are a UK fan and the smartest man in the world, forget I said anything.
What I've been saying is strictly towards merriman. He tried to say this years win against USC was a great win because, because according to him, this years USC team is equal to last years 8-5 Florida team. So you're telling me, that when I say this years 3-9 (?) USC team isn't even on the same level as last years 8-5 Florida team. That its just my opinion? It's not a fact that this years USC team is way worse than last years Florida team? You're telling me that's just my opinion? Really now? So you can seriously make a case for this years USC team being equal to last years Florida team? So 8-5>3-9 isn't a fact? If you say so man.
 

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Khalid Henderson developed really well. After his sophomore year I thought he'd transfer and never play a down. Had a pretty solid sr year.

This staff has a lot to prove next year but Geeze some of you must be joys to be around in real life.

True, the staff developed Henderson nicely.
 

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What I've been saying is strictly towards merriman. He tried to say this years win against USC was a great win because, because according to him, this years USC team is equal to last years 8-5 Florida team. So you're telling me, that when I say this years 3-9 (?) USC team isn't even on the same level as last years 8-5 Florida team. That its just my opinion? It's not a fact that this years USC team is way worse than last years Florida team? You're telling me that's just my opinion? Really now? So you can seriously make a case for this years USC team being equal to last years Florida team? So 8-5>3-9 isn't a fact? If you say so man.
Get over this. You are annoying.
 

law1127

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If UK has been pitiful for 62 years and Andre has all the answers to correct everything in 3 years,maybe he needs to put in his application to the AD, for football coach! People like him give fans a bad name,because we're just not smart enough to recognize his brilliance!