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but I'm just wondering when this *hasn't* been the case:<div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">All you can do as a parent it teach your child what is right and wrong.</span></div></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">
</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">Most of what you've mentioned is not new. I'm sure my grandparents thought the same thing. Just seems like that's a pretty core value, although a lost one, in parenting.</span></div>
 
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with anybody. I also am not a Polk fan. Here is our scenario. <div>
</div><div>I was proud to take my 80 year old parents to a game last year. We are lucky to have friends with box seats behind home plate and we were able to sit with them. My parents were like kids in a candy shop. They both graduated from state, as did their 3 children and 2 grandchildren. We were (are) all fans. They play the game for the school and it's fans. The coach is paid to put a product on the field that entertains fans among other things.</div><div>
</div><div>Beginning in the 2nd inning, we constantly heard GD/MF coming from the dugout. I agree that what happens in the dugout, stays in the dugout. What is not staying in the dugout is a constant barrage of MF's that can be heard without problem. Very uncomfortable sitting there with my parents and children hearing the umpires and players being called GD/MF's. </div><div>
</div><div>We chose not to listen and moved. </div><div>
</div><div>All some of us is asking is for him to keep it in the dugout or locker room.</div><div>
</div><div>Now pile on if you wish. </div>
 
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inthedawghouse said:
with anybody. I also am not a Polk fan. Here is our scenario.
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</div><div>I was proud to take my 80 year old parents to a game last year. We are lucky to have friends with box seats behind home plate and we were able to sit with them. My parents were like kids in a candy shop. They both graduated from state, as did their 3 children and 2 grandchildren. We were (are) all fans. They play the game for the school and it's fans. The coach is paid to put a product on the field that entertains fans among other things.</div><div>
</div><div>Beginning in the 2nd inning, we constantly heard GD/MF coming from the dugout. I agree that what happens in the dugout, stays in the dugout. What is not staying in the dugout is a constant barrage of MF's that can be heard without problem. Very uncomfortable sitting there with my parents and children hearing the umpires and players being called GD/MF's. </div><div>
</div><div>We chose not to listen and moved. </div><div>
</div><div>All some of us is asking is for him to keep it in the dugout or locker room.</div><div>
</div><div>Now pile on if you wish. </div>
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Crap. If I'd just said this it would've saved y'all a bunch of screen space, huh?
 
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That's all any of these people or any upset fans are saying, keep the GD/MFs in the dugout. The Head Coach I'm an assistant under cusses, but he says it where nobody outside the dugout can hear it. Yes he is in a position to be fired if the right parent took it to the board and Cohen really isn't in that position, but out of respect to our fans he could do that. I do KNOW (100%) Mullen cusses like a sailor, but how many fans have to listen to it for 2 hours? Zero, that's the difference. I think winning would cure most of thepetty complaints too.
 
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DawgTeacher said:
That's all any of these people or any upset fans are saying, keep the GD/MFs in the dugout. The Head Coach I'm an assistant under cusses, but he says it where nobody outside the dugout can hear it. Yes he is in a position to be fired if the right parent took it to the board and Cohen really isn't in that position, but out of respect to our fans he could do that. I do KNOW (100%) Mullen cusses like a sailor, but how many fans have to listen to it for 2 hours? Zero, that's the difference. I think winning would cure most of thepetty complaints too.
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about 20 yards away from the nearest fans.

It seems like the people with the most legit complaints seem to be the ones in the box seats. Here's the thing- anyone that thinks that they can go up to Cohen and tell him to stop cussing is probably not only facing a losing battle- they're more than likely to make it worse. Cohen likely cusses not because he has a small vocabulary, but more than likely that's how he handles frustration. I'd much rather him do that then punch out a player. By most accounts Cohen did not start cussing until the 8th inning- I wonder why, so unless we're playing really crappy- which is possible- I doubt it's a constant barrage of profanity.

When I go to games, I often sit in the grandstand behind home plate- first three rows behind the home plate box seats, and other than an occasional "HEY!" I can't hear anything else in the dugout.

Another difference though is a lot of "our fans" don't like it when one of Polk's players gets yelled at- and that's just the truth. Dan can yell at Croom's boys all he wants.

Maybe the solution is to put up a wall on the edge of the MSU dugout, so that Cohen can cuss his heart out without being heard, and then we could paint a picture of Ron Polk on the wall so that the fans in the box seats could pretend that he is still coaching. It seems like a win/win.
 
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I like how you assume the people who complain about Cohen's cussing are automatically Polk supporters. This has nothing to do with Polk.
 
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With it, I have learned profanities, vulgarities, obscenities. produce winning teams. And apparently the only thing preventing MSU baseball from winning are fans who think such things have no place being on public display. FWIW, I am one of those who think it is fallacy at best and it is flouting sin in the face of God at its worst. And yes, I am a season ticket holder to all three "major" sports and do have chair back seats for baseball.
 
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Where does that come from? I understand not taking the Lord's name in vain, but that only eliminates 2 phrases from my vocabulary. I've never quite figured that one out.
 
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always wanders away from the main point and that is whether or not you would support state with a coach that has a foul mouth. that was the main take away from the original post. the friend was no longer going to attend games because of the cursing. not if it was ok to have your kids hear the language.

the reason our sports programs are mired in **** is because the focus is constantly being taken off of winning and put on pansy **** like whether or not our coaches offend our kids. I have two sons. 8 and 5. I dont curse in front of them. Never have. But that has nothing to do with our sports programs. If you go to a game and hear that kind of language from our coaches on that particular team I would think you would try to find a different seat if it offended you, not complain about how you were going to boycott the sport. I mean that is stupid as ****.
 
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MidTNDawg

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Start with Matt 15 then Ephesians 4. Others provided if needed. And no, alcohol consumption is not a sin. Yes, I am a Southern Baptist (preacher that is.) but drinking of itself is not a sin. No sermons for now.
 
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we were hitting the Rebels over the head with! My dad has four ticketsand will not take his grandchildren because of the obsenity (f-bombs, GD) of Cohen. This is a man who worked seismic equipment on an oil rig. This has gotten insane! Keep defending this loose cannon...oh by the way Polk was over a long time ago and shouldn't have been brought back!</p>
 
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Winning would cure all of this. Winning would mean better play, less stupid errors like the latter innings last night. Less errors would mean less frustration/cussing/whatever else. And then all the fans are happy and won't nitpick. As to whom the blame goes for, I say it's both Polk and Cohen. Not going back through Polk's wrongdoings. Cohen has a few of his own guys out their that are pretty terrible too. Vickerson leads the team in Es. Ogden has not made 2 routine plays after the 6th inning the last 3 series that I've watched. Johnson was supposed to come in and be a pretty could bat and OF, he has been summoned to the pen only it seems. And as far as having to put up with so much stupid **** from fans, we're just as frustrated because this is the only sport we feel we should be superior in and we are at the bottom, not even the middle but the bottom. It's gonna get better under this guy though, just wait.</p>
 
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