Interesting Koby Howard X post

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Has something happened behind the scenes that he is being promoted or is this just typical self promotion that we see with players now? He’s the only one that ran a good route on Saturday night! I hope he becomes a starter.
 
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How he enters the game and runs one route, gets open, catches the ball and then doesn't see the field again is baffling.
Time to can a bunch of coaches and starting with the receiver's coach is a great position coach to start with followed by OL coach DL coach Strength coach Special Teams coach and RB coach. Did I miss anyone?
 

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Part of Franklin's legacy -- play the upperclassmen like the 3 portal receivers over talented young players like Howard and (now sitting as a redshirt freshman also) Tyseer Denmark.

Can't blame Franklin for not playing the young guys Saturday night. I'm willing to give Smith the benefit of the doubt. If this doesn't change over the bye week going into OSU, why bother? Why fire Franklin at 3-3 when he could have easily went 3-9 vs the rest of the schedule?
 
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Time to can a bunch of coaches and starting with the receiver's coach is a great position coach to start with followed by OL coach DL coach Strength coach Special Teams coach and RB coach. Did I miss anyone?
Hey, you are the insider. Am I interpreting the post correctly that perhaps Howard was told he’s WR1 today?
In terms of firing coaches, Landon Tengwell stated the usage of the QBs on Saturday night bordered on the unethical. It harmed Grunk in terms of getting into a flow and Smolik may now be actually injured and next man is a walk on - Lambert. AK really needs to be fired this week for throwing qbs to the wolves with these dumba$$ qb runs.
 

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Time to can a bunch of coaches and starting with the receiver's coach is a great position coach to start with followed by OL coach DL coach Strength coach Special Teams coach and RB coach. Did I miss anyone?

AK would be my first. He can't develop a downfield passing attack. If he needs a mobile QB to run his triple option ish offense, he should have told Franklin that he needed Beau or he should have took the WVU job.

The fact that he didn't throw a fit and demand Allen play over Singleton (somebody finally made that call vs Iowa) is bad enough as well. His use of Reynolds like he is 5th year Tyler Warren is idiotic as well.

Hagans I don't quite have a problem with. He didn't design the offense, but Pena dropping his last 2 passes directly cost us this game.
 
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I really think we see a different offense come osu. Will we win is another matter but I think franklin put the cuffs on ak and what he wanted to do this season. Still think ak wasnt happy that Beau left, an ideal guy for his offensive philosophy.
 

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AK would be my first. He can't develop a downfield passing attack. If he needs a mobile QB to run his triple option ish offense, he should have told Franklin that he needed Beau or he should have took the WVU job.

The fact that he didn't throw a fit and demand Allen play over Singleton (somebody finally made that call vs Iowa) is bad enough as well. His use of Reynolds like he is 5th year Tyler Warren is idiotic as well.

Hagans I don't quite have a problem with. He didn't design the offense, but Pena dropping his last 2 passes directly cost us this game.
I would go BOGO with both AK and Hagans. Hagans has shown nothing his entire time here. He has had multiple different players and time to recruit his own type of players. Nothing has worked. Much of the PSU staff should be gone with the new HC. I might keep Terry Smith and Poindexter. Other than that no one has shown anything significant on this staff.
 

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I would go BOGO with both AK and Hagans. Hagans has shown nothing his entire time here. He has had multiple different players and time to recruit his own type of players. Nothing has worked. Much of the PSU staff should be gone with the new HC. I might keep Terry Smith and Poindexter. Other than that no one has shown anything significant on this staff.
What about Howle? He seems to be doing a good job both recruiting and developing the TE position.
 

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I would go BOGO with both AK and Hagans. Hagans has shown nothing his entire time here. He has had multiple different players and time to recruit his own type of players. Nothing has worked. Much of the PSU staff should be gone with the new HC. I might keep Terry Smith and Poindexter. Other than that no one has shown anything significant on this staff.
How about Ty Howle (TE coach) possibly being retained?
Terry Smith could be retained as a GM
Poindexter is an excellent Safety coach.
 

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AK would be my first. He can't develop a downfield passing attack. If he needs a mobile QB to run his triple option ish offense, he should have told Franklin that he needed Beau or he should have took the WVU job.

The fact that he didn't throw a fit and demand Allen play over Singleton (somebody finally made that call vs Iowa) is bad enough as well. His use of Reynolds like he is 5th year Tyler Warren is idiotic as well.

Hagans I don't quite have a problem with. He didn't design the offense, but Pena dropping his last 2 passes directly cost us this game.
None of the receivers have developed that is a coaching thing and the recruits he's brought in have been marginal to this point.

But getting rid of coach K solves some of those problems so maybe Hagans would get another year if they weren't bringing in a new HC. I'm guessing Hagans is gone when that happens.
 
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careful what you wish for....this guy has a few good weeks and he will be playing for another team next season.
 
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None of the receivers have developed that is a coaching thing and the recruits he's brought in have been marginal to this point.

But getting rid of coach K solves some of those problems so maybe Hagans would get another year if they weren't bringing in a new HC. I'm guessing Hagans is gone when that happens.

It's tough to say much about the young WRs. They don't see the field. I know Hagans is gone after the season. No new HC is retaining him. We agree there for sure.
 
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careful what you wish for....this guy has a few good weeks and he will be playing for another team next season.

And he is even more likely to leave if he continues to sit behind 3 transfers and a WR who is on the roster because Franklin liked his brother.
 
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AK would be my first. He can't develop a downfield passing attack. If he needs a mobile QB to run his triple option ish offense, he should have told Franklin that he needed Beau or he should have took the WVU job.

The fact that he didn't throw a fit and demand Allen play over Singleton (somebody finally made that call vs Iowa) is bad enough as well. His use of Reynolds like he is 5th year Tyler Warren is idiotic as well.

Hagans I don't quite have a problem with. He didn't design the offense, but Pena dropping his last 2 passes directly cost us this game.
How in the world do you not have a problem with Hagans? He's the #1 guy on my list of people that need to be gone, it should have happened already. He's had 3 years and hasn't developed a single WR, hasn't recruited well, and per all the film breakdown guys our WRs can't execute properly. They run poor routes, then can't get open, they don't present themselves to the QB properly, they can't get off the LOS cleanly when jammed and this has happened with 3 different sets of starting WRs. Hagans in my view is the worst coach on the staff and it's not even close.
 

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How he enters the game and runs one route, gets open, catches the ball and then doesn't see the field again is baffling.
It’s not just the offense. Tatsch gets in for a series against Villanova, makes a couple tackles including a TFL, then stands on the sidelines for the rest of the game (and the next 4 games).

Just let the young guys play and see what happens. They’re going to make mistakes but now is the time to make them. What are we going to lose 52-3 next week instead of 45-3? Oh no.
 

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And he is even more likely to leave if he continues to sit behind 3 transfers and a WR who is on the roster because Franklin liked his brother.
If it was the same staff I would agree with you. New staff will have a clean slate.
 

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Denmark was supposed to be a sure fire starting if not right away then soon after getting to PSU - no he is MIA. Need a new WR Coach at a minimum.
 

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How in the world do you not have a problem with Hagans? He's the #1 guy on my list of people that need to be gone, it should have happened already. He's had 3 years and hasn't developed a single WR, hasn't recruited well, and per all the film breakdown guys our WRs can't execute properly. They run poor routes, then can't get open, they don't present themselves to the QB properly, they can't get off the LOS cleanly when jammed and this has happened with 3 different sets of starting WRs. Hagans in my view is the worst coach on the staff and it's not even close.

I think he did a good job with Wallace, but I also acknowledge that Tre will never be a WR1.

I'm curious to see if we play any young WRs going forward. I'm also curious if AK can create any down field passing. Do you think the current offense is designed to benefit anybody? It's just random plays hoping we catch somebody off guard.

Last year, everything went through Warren. This year, nothing goes through anybody. It took 7 games to get Allen the lions share of snaps. I hate saying it, but Singleton needs to be a 3rd down RB. Pass block, receiving option, I don't know how you give him another rush. Give it to Smith or Wallace if Allen needs a breather.

AKs offense really just sucks. It sucked last year too, but Warren masked a lot of it.
 

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Time to can a bunch of coaches and starting with the receiver's coach is a great position coach to start with followed by OL coach DL coach Strength coach Special Teams coach and RB coach. Did I miss anyone?
Maybe they could start by hiring a legitimate QB coach? I think BO’B might be the only legitimate QB coach PSU has had in my lifetime? Perhaps Ganter if you think that he wasn’t controlled by Joe to keep it conservative?
 
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It’s not just the offense. Tatsch gets in for a series against Villanova, makes a couple tackles including a TFL, then stands on the sidelines for the rest of the game (and the next 4 games).

Just let the young guys play and see what happens. They’re going to make mistakes but now is the time to make them. What are we going to lose 52-3 next week instead of 45-3? Oh no.
You could have said these exact sentiments during the Paterno years also. It took hitting rock bottom in the early 2000’s for him to give freshman like Williams and King a chance to play right away. He didn’t even let LaVar start his freshman year.
 

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Maybe they could start by hiring a legitimate QB coach? I think BO’B might be the only legitimate QB coach PSU has had in my lifetime? Perhaps Ganter if you think that he wasn’t controlled by Joe to keep it conservative?
Was Fran a QB coach. I remember him being the OC and one of the best we ever had and the RB coach. I thought Anderson was a QB coach during that time but I'm old and forgetful.
 

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If it was the same staff I would agree with you. New staff will have a clean slate.

New staff might not get the opportunity to persuade if he checks out 6 weeks before they show up. These kids have practice footage to show in the portal as well. If he can play, play him. If we're worried somebody is gonna outbag us for him then we aren't winning a Natty regardless of who we bring in.
 

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Denmark was supposed to be a sure fire starting if not right away then soon after getting to PSU - no he is MIA. Need a new WR Coach at a minimum.
Well, if we are to believe that Kraft pushed really heard for transfer WRs and Franklin was more loyal to his own guys, was there pressure to play the transfers? I still maintain though, that the WRs were productive at their previous schools and didn’t just lose the ability when they got here.
 
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Can't blame Franklin for not playing the young guys Saturday night. I'm willing to give Smith the benefit of the doubt. If this doesn't change over the bye week going into OSU, why bother? Why fire Franklin at 3-3 when he could have easily went 3-9 vs the rest of the schedule?
You make the move as soon as you know you're going to make the move. Gives us 6-8 weeks to talk to agents.
 
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I really think we see a different offense come osu. Will we win is another matter but I think franklin put the cuffs on ak and what he wanted to do this season. Still think ak wasnt happy that Beau left, an ideal guy for his offensive philosophy.
Beau turns the ball over way too much. Would have never worked.
 
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Beau turns the ball over way too much. Would have never worked.
WTF? I have this dingleberry on ignore, and didn't click to show ignored ... yet, I can see his foolishness clear as day. Hopefully this is a momentary blip that is fixed asap. Sad to see Lando hasn't changed a bit. Sad, but completely expected.
 
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Reason 967 that Smith shouldn't be considered for the role

There was one scenario where Smith gets the job. That required winning out (already shot), making the playoff (a long shot at 9-3 but would have had 2 top 3 wins if it had occurred), and I'd even say win it all.

Smith was made interim because he's probably primary or 2nd recruiter to 3/4 of the roster. He's there to maintain relationships with the recruits while we are in limbo. At least, that's my take.

If he was being auditioned, he would make changes during the bye. I'd rather see Poindexter reinstall the Diaz scheme and us get beat for 60 yard passes than let a gimpy Iowa QB break 2 40+ yard runs while half our guys are pancaked and the other half are tackling air.

If we don't overhaul the offense for OSU, why bother? Overhaul meaning that we have to have some downfield passing. Somebody in the building has either coached with it or played under it at some point. We have to stop with Tyler Warren's Greatest Hits as well. Reynolds isn't Warren (yet, nor may he ever be). The stuff that worked in '24 is on film. None of it has worked in '25.
 
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Was Fran a QB coach. I remember him being the OC and one of the best we ever had and the RB coach. I thought Anderson was a QB coach during that time but I'm old and forgetful.
I’m not sure. I knew he was OC. I did not realize he was RB coach. Wasn’t Andersen OL coach? Why QB also? I never understood the coaching assignments? One coach for C and G’s. Another for Tackles and TE? Don’t they all work in unison? I realize other teams also did it that way, just seemed strange to me. I remember when BO’B took over Mac McWhorter coached the OL and Stank (I think?) remarked it was nice to be in the meeting room with the entire OL? FYI, I thought McWhorter was a heck of an OL coach.
 

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I’m not sure. I knew he was OC. I did not realize he was RB coach. Wasn’t Andersen OL coach? Why QB also? I never understood the coaching assignments? One coach for C and G’s. Another for Tackles and TE? Don’t they all work in unison? I realize other teams also did it that way, just seemed strange to me. I remember when BO’B took over Mac McWhorter coached the OL and Stank (I think?) remarked it was nice to be in the meeting room with the entire OL? FYI, I thought McWhorter was a heck of an OL coach.
Anderson was OL coach but was also the QB coach for a while and I think OC too at one time or at least shared that with someone else. Then he went to Rutgers as HC but failed. Joe reluctantly brought him back but never treated him quite the same after that. I'm just not sure of the timing of all of that. I know when he was QB coach we had a very good passing game at that time.
 
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Anderson was OL coach but was also the QB coach for a while and I think OC too at one time or at least shared that with someone else. Then he went to Rutgers as HC but failed. Joe reluctantly brought him back but never treated him quite the same after that. I'm just not sure of the timing of all of that. I know when he was QB coach we had a very good passing game at that time.
Thanks!
 
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I’m not sure. I knew he was OC. I did not realize he was RB coach. Wasn’t Andersen OL coach? Why QB also? I never understood the coaching assignments? One coach for C and G’s. Another for Tackles and TE? Don’t they all work in unison? I realize other teams also did it that way, just seemed strange to me. I remember when BO’B took over Mac McWhorter coached the OL and Stank (I think?) remarked it was nice to be in the meeting room with the entire OL? FYI, I thought McWhorter was a heck of an OL coach.
+100. Best we've had in a long time.
 
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Part of Franklin's legacy -- play the upperclassmen like the 3 portal receivers over talented young players like Howard and (now sitting as a redshirt freshman also) Tyseer Denmark.
If you are Howard or any other True Fr do you enter the portal now if you can protect your redshirt? Howard played 5 snaps last week's.

Will the current staff be worried now about preserving any true FR as they know they most likely won't be around next season?