Interesting problem for the NCAA committee...

[Coach34]

both us and SC are on the bubble...SC is ahead of us due to a better schedule and one extra SEC win in the regular season...But now they have to look at the fact we have beaten them twice head-2-head...thats huge...

Couple that with no way the SEC doesnt get 3 teams in the Tourney- I still maintain that the SEC gets 4...Slive heading up the committee should all but make 4 happen...

So, other than LSU and Tennessee, who gets the other two out of the SEC?

 

[Coach34]

both us and SC are on the bubble...SC is ahead of us due to a better schedule and one extra SEC win in the regular season...But now they have to look at the fact we have beaten them twice head-2-head...thats huge...

Couple that with no way the SEC doesnt get 3 teams in the Tourney- I still maintain that the SEC gets 4...Slive heading up the committee should all but make 4 happen...

So, other than LSU and Tennessee, who gets the other two out of the SEC?

 

[VegasDawg13]

I don't agree that the SEC will necessarily get 4 in, though. I may just be naive, but I believe all of these reporters who have seen how the selection process works and insist that they don't consider how many from each conference get in.

 

[SanfordRJones]

I'd think whoever wins the AU vs. UF game would be #3.

 

[dawgstudent]

Auburn, LSU, and TN. If South Carolina makes it over us, I will be highly pissed. If the 3 I mentioned only make it, I am fine with that. I think we deserve to be the 4th right now.

 

[Bulldog from Birth]

I think the SEC is a 2-bid league unless MSU, Auburn, or Florida win the tournament. The bubble is quickly shrinking.

BFB

 

[Frances Drebin]

...that the committee goes in thinking that the SEC has to get at least three and probably four teams in? I don't think the SEC will get more than three teams in unless Auburn or State wins the tournament. And if Auburn wins the tournament, Florida will get knocked out and likely off the bubble.</p>

It's very much possible that only two get in, but three are more likely.</p>

 

[Coach34]

I don't agree that the SEC will necessarily get 4 in, though. I may just be naive, but I believe all of these reporters who have seen how the selection process works and insist that they don't consider how many from each conference get in.

as conference commissioner, you can damn well bet Slive knows how many he thinks should get in

 

[Coach34]

"Do you really think that the committee goes in thinking that the SEC has to get at least three and probably four teams in?

Mike Slive does

 

[Dental Dawg]

We make bubble list with win over LSU and deserve an at large bid but will get screwed if we don't win it all.

 

[dawgatUSM]

According to a few people on ESPN, they seem to think that if we beat LSU tomorrow we're in regardless of the outcome of the championship game, and I think that would bump USC out. We'll see if we can pull it off though.

I'm with you, though. I think we get 4 in.

 

[RebelBruiser]

I don't agree that the SEC will necessarily get 4 in, though. I may just be naive, but I believe all of these reporters who have seen how the selection process works and insist that they don't consider how many from each conference get in.

I agree, and I really don't think they care about conference affiliation either. I think they just look at individual resumes and basically rank the teams based on whatever criteria they want. If only 2 SEC teams are in that top selection, that's all that get in. If 6 are in that top group, then 6 get in.

The only time they look at conference affiliation is when they start making the bracket and determining which teams go where so they can hopefully eliminate the possibility that two teams from the same conference can meet before the regional finals. Of course, in a case like the Big East where they may get 9 or 10 teams since it's a 16 team league, they try to make it so that they won't meet before the Sweet Sixteen.

 

[Frances Drebin]

1. you don't know much about Mike Slive
2. he has to recuse himself over discussions about SEC teams</p>

 

[FQDawg]

I read an article by Seth Davis on Sportsillustrated.com where he got to participate in a mock selection process put on by the NCAA. In the article he said that they had selected and seeded the entire field before anyone thought to look at how many from each conference got in.

We may get four teams from our conference in, but it will be because the committee thinks those teams deserve to be in. NOT because they are from a particular conference.

*** Edit ***

Here is the story I mentioned.

And for any idiots out there who think that Slive is going to influence the selection in favor of the SEC, I give you this excerpt...

Finally, the NCAA is so sensitive to potential conflicts of interest that its computer software does not allow the committee members to breach protocols even if they wanted to. Kirk Wessler of the Peoria Journal Star and I teamed up to play the part of Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith. Whenever a ballot came up that included Ohio State, our computer wouldn't let us vote. The rules also dictate that when a person's school (or in the case of SEC commissioner and chairman Mike Slive, his schools) comes up for discussion, that person has to leave the room. So you can set all your conspiracy theories aside. You might think this process is flawed, but you can't say it's dishonest.

 

[Frances Drebin]

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[RonnyAtmosphere]

....MSU had to win the SEC tournament to make the NCAA tournament.

Why has that scenario changed suddenly?

You can't be burdened with the ****** losses & piss poor RPI like State is & expect to get into the Dance unless you win your conference tournament.

Beating LSU tomorrow will only get MSU a sweet NIT setup. Nothing more.

 

[drunkernhelldawg]

I think it would hurt the tourney's credibility and its appeal. Yet if they really look at the team and not the league, it may fall that way.

Lunardi has SC in as an 11 seed, but I'm pretty sure they're going to be out. I think you're right that four get in. LSU and TN, the winner of this game (Fl AU). State if we win tomorrow; the loser of this game if we don't.

 

[Bulldog from Birth]

If they weren't out already, Duquesne's win over Dayton just sealed South Carolina's fate.

BFB

 

[Coach34]

1. you don't know much about Mike Slive
2. he has to recuse himself over discussions about SEC teams</p>

that a commissioner that doesnt let SEC teams report each other to the NCAA anymore doesnt care about representation by the conference in the NCAA Tourney? Really?

Yes, he does have to leave before discussions over SEc teams, but if you dont think he has made his feelings known to others before he leaves, your and idiot

 

[Bulldog from Birth]

There is no path for MSU to the NCAA's but the automatic bid.

BFB

 

[8dog]

the bubble slots are shrinking rapidly, and our resume is the same or worse than most bubble teams. The glaring part of our resume is that we have 2 bad losses. The games agains SD and Charlotte didn't just hurt the RPI, they give us tick marks in a category the committee looks at.

I'd give us a better shot if South Carolina hadn't plummetted to 58 after the game today givins us 2 top 50 wins as opposed to 4.

I don't really buy into the "SEC will get x bids" stuff. They have opened this stuff up to the media plus people have been following this for too long for that kind of stuff to be a reality.

 

[Frances Drebin]

...that winning tomorrow doesn't get us in. We've got to win the tourney. And I still say if Auburn beats Florida tonight that they aren't automatically in. A loss by Florida tonight could mean only two get in unless either us or Auburn wins the tourney.

 

[Coach34]

...that winning tomorrow doesn't get us in. We've got to win the tourney. And I still say if Auburn beats Florida tonight that they aren't automatically in. A loss by Florida tonight could mean only two get in unless either us or Auburn wins the tourney.

i want to bet you 100 dollars the SEC gets more than 2 teams in the NCAA Tourney...That bet is void if somebody other than Tenn or LSU wins it....deal?

 

[Bulldog from Birth]

I just don't see either of them getting a bid without a big RPI win tomorrow. I still say the SEC is most likely going to be a 2-bid league.

BFB

 

[Frances Drebin]

....Slive will impose his will and dictate that the committe puts four SEC teams in just because he is the commish?

And I'm the idiot?

The committee doesn't owe the SEC anything. The league has been bad, bad this year. There are only two teams in the top 50 RPI. And has been talked about ad nauseum tonight, the bubble has shrunken dramatically with upsets in other leagues. South Carolina is out. Kentucky is out. Either us or Auburn have to win it all to get in. LSU and Tennessee are locks, and Florida will be solid if they make it to the championship game. The only chance of us getting four is if us or Auburn win the tournament, but that will probably knock Florida out. It's simple math, really.

 

[Frances Drebin]

...would I take that bet when I've said it's possible that we get as many as four?

Are you retarded?

 

[Coach34]

the SEC getting 2 is very likely</p>

 

[drunkernhelldawg]

The emotional consequences of the SEC being basically left out of college sports greatest event. Is not the SEC college sports greatest conference? How can this happen?

Besides that, we can play with those Big East ACC and those other media darlings. I don't know who's on this deified committee, but I've got to believe that they know more than the headlines about college basketball.

I've been buying this down SEC and not much tourney action for the SEC line all season, but now that it's getting to crunch time, are they really gonna pull that trigger and fill the tourney with teams from the same conferences, teams that have been playing each other for most of the season.

It'll be interesting, but I know this much about myself: If there are only 2 SEC teams in, I ain't gonna give a damn about it.

 

[Frances Drebin]

...you will see where I said three is likely. I'm saying two is possible but three is likely. Mostly, I'm saying you're wrong for thinking we will get four teams in just because we're the by-God SEC and our commissioner is the chairman of the committee.

 

[Frances Drebin]

...as it should be. As much of an SEC homer as I am, I don't want anything we don't deserve. The Big East might have three of the number one seeds. The SEC has one team ranked in the top 25, and they lost two games down the stretch.

 

[FQDawg]

Yes, he does have to leave before discussions over SEc teams, but if you dont think he has made his feelings known to others before he leaves, your and idiot

You mean those same "others" that have their own feelings and agendas about who they want in the tournament?

 

[BlindDawg]

IF the SEC gets 4 in, then I don't think there is any way that we aren't the 4th team. That being said, right now LSU and TN are the only locks, and could very well be the only two teams that get in. We have to win tomorrow to even get in the discussion and probably have to win it all to get in anyway. I think Auburn is in with a win tomorrow.

 

[BeerHound]

If we beat LSU, I think we have a pretty good shot of getting in and this is why.

We are hot. Winning 5 in a row and at least one over a ranked team. The NCAA likes "hot teams"
We would have beat the other consideration from the SEC (USC) twice.
The return of Kodi. NCAA has also given consideration for teams that have missed a player due to injury etc, the way State is playing with Kodi on the floor compared to the losing streak sans Kodi, it will be an argument "for."

No promises, but if they pull off the upset today, it will make for an interesting Sunday afternoon..

 

[Xenomorph]

...not invite either one of us.

 

[VegasDawg13]

We are hot. Winning 5 in a row and at least one over a ranked team. The NCAA likes "hot teams"

According to all the writers who have been on the inside of this process, being hot isn't that important. And the only way it matters at all is that the committee looks at each team's last 12 games. Well, if we win today, and lose tomorrow, we will be 6-6 in our last 12 games, not good.

 

[jbulldog]

1. you don't know much about Mike Slive
2. he has to recuse himself over discussions about SEC teams</p>

it is one thing to recuse oneself and it is entirely another thing to have to look the commish in the eye once the brackets are finished. It is an advantage having him in that spot....no question about it.

 

[jbulldog]

nm

 

[jackstefano]

I really think you're setting yourself up to be disappointed. MSU is not even in the discussion right now. One more win is not going to put them close enough. Hell, Auburn is in the discussion, and they need another win.

 

[Frances Drebin]

*</p>

 

[Coach34]

"Couple that with no way the SEC doesnt get 3 teams in the Tourney- I still maintain that the SEC gets 4...Slive heading up the committee should all but make 4 happen... "

I thought 3 was for sure, 4 should get in. I also noticed you wouldnt take the bet that more than two would get in- your reply- "Why would I take that bet, I've said as many as four could get in"